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2013-07-16, 12:57 | Link #103 |
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I was thinking kinetic energy absorption could possibly work against Accel.
Considering Kihara displayed that Accel used single reflection events (not a "constant barrier"), and that vectors cause matter/energy/etc to have direction and force, a kinetic manipulator could theoretically bypass his barrier. Think of it this way... Kinetic throws a punch at Accel (normal punch, not exerting any extra force using their ability) with their ability set to "absorb". Their fist strikes Accel's barrier and is given a new vector with likely greater force than what they intended (courtesy of Accel's overkill :P). However as the kinetic's ability is set to absorb, they instantly stop any momentum and velocity their fist had when thrown back by Accel's vector change, and it remains in place, free to continue moving forward. Granted, this means the kinetic needs to have a one-inch-punch martial skill otherwise they'd just barely tap Accel's body from their halted position.
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2013-07-16, 13:28 | Link #104 |
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It wouldn't work. Accelerator's reflection is not a "single reflection event" as you are interpreting. It reflects everything with the exceptions to the rules (air, sound, light, etc), unusual effects that he doesn't comprehend (until he can comprehend them and change his ability accordingly) and the vectors he already changed (since otherwise they would just loop I guess).
At best, the attack would be stopped completely on it's tracks without doing damage to any of them. If the user tried to put a new impetus on the punch it would count as a new vector. |
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2013-07-17, 03:27 | Link #106 | |
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2013-07-17, 18:11 | Link #107 |
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The only other thing I think could avoid Accelerator's barrier is an attack that starts/manifests within his body or one that doesn't have a vector... Maybe something like Death Inducement simply by sight. Pretty OP, but it'd work.
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2013-07-18, 14:57 | Link #109 |
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Are intangibility Esper powers still affected by Accelerator's field? I'm wondering if something that is intangible can possess a vector in any sense. :\
Also teleportation. Couldn't Musujime's ability teleport something into Accel's body? I'm not sure if teleportation counts as a movement with a vector.
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2013-07-18, 22:13 | Link #110 |
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There aren't any intangibility espers for us to draw info from, so no clue on that one. Teleportation does have a vector in this series though, Accelerator blocks a teleportation attack once. Basically it works by moving something into the 11th dimension then back into the third dimension (technobabble). Since it involves movement Accel can reflect it.
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The second one would probably work, you would have to read the light novels to find out anything about that The third one would certainly work, but you'd have to read the light novels to find out anything about that |
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2013-07-19, 08:45 | Link #115 | |
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or we can list all possible attack which arent a vector here -_- Temperature attack may work because thats a scalar right? So lv.5 uiharu > accelerator is shirohige's quake attack is a vector?
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2013-07-19, 10:22 | Link #116 |
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I agree with you. But what you're talking about is different from what I'm talking about. I know what you're talking about. I'm talking about
Spoiler for LN 22 or NT of Index:
@Hamazura I meant that Accel can't stand the temperature that Uiharu could make if she was level 5. Yeah, gravity is a vector. Though: if he reversed gravity sending him somewhere, he would be sent the other way just as fast... and he could only accelerate it... so that wouldn't be good for him either... |
2013-07-19, 13:19 | Link #117 |
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His powers work on gravity. He actually says he has to consciously let gravity affect him or he'll just float away.
As for temperature, he walked through the molten ground left behind by one of those Iron Blade attacks without being bothered by the heat. No examples of resisting cold though, but it seems like that's a weakness someone would have exploited at some point. |
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Spoiler for vol.14:
Heat/temperature is scalar, not vector -_-
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2013-07-19, 14:01 | Link #119 |
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Temperature is a value related with how much agitated molecules are (depending of energy and which molecules). Heat is one form of transfer of energy, and transferring energy have a direction of molecule movement and collision. So with his power, it makes sense he would be able to keep the energy of matter around him to transfer to his body.
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30 degree celcius is scalar 200byte is scalar Just how the hell he can repel it and rewrite the last order data -_-
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