Aquarion EVOL - Episode 14 Discussion / Poll

[Mangaka-chan]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

perhaps Mikage merely put Jin in a death like sleep that would fool anyone and plans to use him as his pawn later on. Perhaps as the third pilot with the original Aquarion. I can see the EVOL fighting the original Aquarion at the end of the series as part of the breaking fate theme. The original Aquarion is defeated and Jin is freed.

I think if Jin were to come back, it would be in a cameo at the end of the anime, in an epilogue or something where we see he's been reborn. Right now though, considering he's 6 feet under, I would prefer for him to stay dead. Aquarion has many things, but I'd rather not see zombies.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Zuul

It wouldn't seem weird at all. Strentening the bond so that the loss has a bigger impact.

Just saying.

No, not loss- Resolve.

The resolve to get her back- Amata's going, Cayenne as well, Shrade is going because he's not afraid of a little suicide mission, Andy is going because he's that kind of bro, Mix is going but don't get her wrong- it's not because of Andy, Yunoha owns Mikono a small debt for helping her connect with her dead lover, Sazanka is going because it's the planet of the bishounens.

I have no idea what Malloy is going to do though...

Originally Posted by Zuul

If Mikono is going to be taking away I'll regret forever to not have seen her interact more with Cayenne and Zessica. Damn those autors for being such shipperfags.

Lol irony

Originally Posted by Zuul

Both girls had some sort of chemistry the few times they interact, that I wouldn't have mind some yuri here. And I'm not usually a yuri fan.

...You know, I've already conceded to the fact that you and I are watching a different show, but how the heck did you get 'good chemistry' from them ?

In fact, some times I think that term is misused in alot of ways... >.>

[Patriot's Blade]

for a minute there i thought Mikono's element powers is that she can revive the dead but no, cuz that would ruin something.....

[Arya]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

It would seem weird to take away Mikono right after she just strengthen her bond with everybody else, but then again that might be the motivation for the entire cast and not just Amata to have the resolve to get her back, at the same time I can't see Mikono willing to leave, not when she was so desperate not to lose her friends in this episode.

Well, if Aquarion EVOL taught us something, it's that each progress made is followed by a loss/cockblock/whatever, so I wouldn't call that weird, but obvious instead.

I'm curious to see Mikono's reactions this time anyways, because she seems more self-confident than ever, to the point to being able to choose to go to Altair leave Daeva willingly, for some unknown reason (likely to save her friends from a Mykage/Kagura threat). It would be interesting seeing an Amata new misunderstanding.

Even if I don't feel it, I mean, I don't believe that the "abduction" will last more than one episode (in between two episodes, to have the cliffhanger). It looks like they don't know how to handle the Kagura / Mikono interactions. Unless they'll put Mikono in a coma after the so-called wedding. But really I can't see Amata having his mother and his wannabe girlfriend in a coma together

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Arya

I'm curious to see Mikono's reactions this time anyways, because she seems more self-confident than ever, to the point to being able to choose to go to Altair leave Daeva willingly, for some unknown reason (likely to save her friends from a Mykage/Kagura threat). It would be interesting seeing an Amata new misunderstanding.

I don't buy that. If Kagura isn't a big enough threat in the previous episode with a mecha and a gate and all, he's never going to amount to anything great. And if Mykage is involve, do you really think he needs Mikono's 'permission' to take her away? He certainly didn't with Donar's ex-lover.

So no matter which way you slice this pineapple, I strongly disagree that she'll leave willing.

And about Amata, I'm willing to place a bit of faith in him that this episode has resolved his worries about being abandoned again.

[Zuul]

I hope the abduction is going to last for a littlet while. For I've found the very few moments because Mikono and Kagura to be extremelly entertaining, while I've found the maiden extremelly dull (and also a bit of annoying) interacting with Amata.

There is so much potential here.

Now if they leave her at neo Deava, they'd better compensate by giving me my Zess Mikono goodness at least.

[kuromitsu]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

And about Amata, I'm willing to place a bit of faith in him that this episode has resolved his worries about being abandoned again.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Resolved for the moment, yes - Mikono said she would be there waiting for him (along with the others) and she was indeed there, wishing him a happy birthday (lol ) etc. But there was a huge emphasis on Kagura taking her and him being left alone again (even Zessica's part was focused on that). But I think this experience, especially Mikono saying that she'll be waiting for him, will probably give Amata more strength to go "OH NO YOU DON'T" to Kagura when the time eventually comes. My prediction: the black wedding happens, Mikono is taken away either to Altair or somewhere else where the gang can't reach her, Amata goes all angstmopeangst for a while until someone (Zessica? Fudou? Andy?) kicks his ass into action and then we'll see the Amata vs Kagura fight from the OP leading to Mikono's powers going haywire and Kagura and Amata ending up totally into each other ahem. *cough*

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

...You know, I've already conceded to the fact that you and I are watching a different show, but how the heck did you get 'good chemistry' from them ?

Yeah, even I, as a pretty big yuri fan, have a hard time imagining Mikono/Zessica.

Don't get me wrong - they're both attractive, so I can get the appeal of it - but I have a hard time seeing it.

Zessica/Mix is the most likely yuri pairing I can see in this show, as Mix is just as tsundere towards Zessica as she is a certain Digging Bros. But I'd rather Mr. Hole-Maker not get a permanent hole in his own heart.

[justavisitor]

wow, rarely we have an anime that focuses so much on life and death...a good thumb up to staffs who are willing to go this far XD

Spoiler for spoiler for what might happen in next episode?:

Well, I hope Kagura won't get his hand on Mikono in the next episode, but I am not going to bet on it...it will be a bit weird that Kagura can get away when all the main characters just get the "power up"/"refreshment" in this episode (usually by anime law, main characters need to show off after achieving to the next level ) but if Kagura can't abduct Mikono, he probably never will...

[kuromitsu]

Re: Zessica x Mikono, I don't see any particular chemistry either (too bad... I really wanted them to be friends) but they're both cute and pretty and I like cute and pretty things, so I'd really appreciate some tasteful artwork and such about them. (Dammit pixiv, why do you fail me again?? I have nothing against Jin x Yunoha but pixiv's obsession with them is getting a bit ridiculous. ^^;; )

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by kuromitsu

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Resolved for the moment, yes - Mikono said she would be there waiting for him (along with the others) and she was indeed there, wishing him a happy birthday (lol ) etc. But there was a huge emphasis on Kagura taking her and him being left alone again (even Zessica's part was focused on that). But I think this experience, especially Mikono saying that she'll be waiting for him, will probably give Amata more strength to go "OH NO YOU DON'T" to Kagura when the time eventually comes. My prediction: the black wedding happens, Mikono is taken away either to Altair or somewhere else where the gang can't reach her, Amata goes all angstmopeangst for a while until someone (Zessica? Fudou? Andy?) kicks his ass into action and then we'll see the Amata vs Kagura fight from the OP leading to Mikono's powers going haywire and Kagura and Amata ending up totally into each other ahem. *cough*

I'll admit given the style of writing we've been experiencing, I cannot in good faith strongly claim that your scenario is in the realm of impossibility- But you have to admit that scenario is like kicking a guy when he's down, and then stealing his money...

...In other words, it'll makes you feel like crap >.> So I'm really hoping it doesn't go down that way... On a positive note, the writing has given us plenty of surprises that defiles expectations, so maybe there is hope for something less negative unlike... You know, that other series that used the same voice acting cast >.>

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Yeah, even I, as a pretty big yuri fan, have a hard time imagining Mikono/Zessica.

Don't get me wrong - they're both attractive, so I can get the appeal of it - but I have a hard time seeing it.

Zessica/Mix is the most likely yuri pairing I can see in this show, as Mix is just as tsundere towards Zessica as she is a certain Digging Bros. But I'd rather Mr. Hole-Maker not get a permanent hole in his own heart.

Eh, I'm afraid you come to the wrong place to look for Yuri It's either Straight or Yaoi

[Arya]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I don't buy that. If Kagura isn't a big enough threat in the previous episode with a mecha and a gate and all, he's never going to amount to anything great. And if Mykage is involve, do you really think he needs Mikono's 'permission' to take her away? He certainly didn't with Donar's ex-lover.

So no matter which way you slice this pineapple, I strongly disagree that she'll leave willing.

And about Amata, I'm willing to place a bit of faith in him that this episode has resolved his worries about being abandoned again.

Well, about Mikono I was just guessing under the condition of a threat, not for anything else. But surely the abduction becomes less credible as the episodes pass. But we will have it.

About Amata I agree with kuromitsu (not with the very end ), his complex is still there. Why build-up a complex to resolve it now as a minor issue. I guess it will be a big issue for Amata when/if Mikono will be abducted, causing maybe another misunderstanding. for that reason I was guessing a sort of Mikono's will to be "abducted", for a more dramatic adverse setting for Amata.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Eh, I'm afraid you come to the wrong place to look for Yuri It's either Straight or Yaoi

I never said I was looking for yuri here, Chaos.

I'm well-aware it's not likely in this show. I pointed to Zessica/Mix because that's the only pair of girls in this show that I could see even having a slim chance of developing yuri between them. But even that would be against the odds (Andy/Mix has been developed pretty well).

[miketyson]

If I were a gambler, I wouldn't take the "this episode resolved Amata's issues" bet *at all*...I'd take the "Amata has gone from being mopey about abandonment to making sure it won't happen" bet. Which, in turn, makes next episode perfect timing for the abduction...so we should be expecting something completely different?

I'm half expecting he'll try to fly up and through the dimension gate himself only to get turned back by a vision of Alisia . On this episode: any opinions on whether (a) Kagura gattai'd with everyone (but we didn't get to see it) or (b) Kagura didn't gattai (e.g. got warped in later, or was just hanging out and not included)? I know the show itself is ambiguous, so just trying to get some opinions.

[Zuul]

It would be weird if Mikono isn't abducted after all that building up.

But it's maybe where the Kawamori's trolling touch lies. Nothing hapening (Amata saving his princess Peach from the n th time) , and Kagura being team rocket status forever.

[kuromitsu]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I'll admit given the style of writing we've been experiencing, I cannot in good faith strongly claim that your scenario is in the realm of impossibility- But you have to admit that scenario is like kicking a guy when he's down, and then stealing his money...

Well yeah, I wouldn't be happy about it either, but I think it'll happen sooner or later. I mean, Cayenne's vision will come true in one way or another, and I can't imagine any other solution than her being taken away somehow. And I can't imagine Amata not being angstmopeangst after seeing Mikono being taken away, because that'd be his worst nightmare coming true (re: issues). But then he'll remember her words and/or someone will give him a push, and bam, resolve found, duel initiated... or at least that's how the usual scenario would develop, and this is the most natural development I can think of. (I mean, Amata and Kagura will have to duel at one point... both being into the same girl and all. ) Oh well, it's GO AMATA GO as far as I'm concerned.

Originally Posted by miketyson

any opinions on whether (a) Kagura gattai'd with everyone (but we didn't get to see it) or (b) Kagura didn't gattai (e.g. got warped in later, or was just hanging out and not included)? I know the show itself is ambiguous, so just trying to get some opinions.

I don't think it was ambiguous - if he'd been part of the "gattai" the others would've noticed it, given the nature of a gattai. And I can't really see him just hanging around and not doing anything while Mikono is there. So I think he just appeared in the wrong moment (again...).
(Then again, did we ever see Molloy's gattai scene? Maybe in the background he was like "ooh, I feel something fuzzy... fuzzy and fluffy... with sharp teeth!")

[pingva]

This Mikono's abduction would be one night long maximum and in Vega since Kagura came without mecha and to go to Altair you need mecha and Mykage to open the gates and for that you would need to steal a vector, but Kagura is far away from Neo Deava, so no chance of it happening. I've noticed that in preview Kagura even left Mikono alone on the skyscraper?

[Zuul]

Originally Posted by pingva

This Mikono's abduction would be one night long maximum and in Vega since Kagura came without mecha and to go to Altair you need mecha and Mykage to open the gates and for that you would need to steal a vector, but Kagura is far away from Neo Deava, so no chance of it happening. I've noticed that in preview Kagura even left Mikono alone on the skyscraper?

You're forgetting that Mykage's is on Kagura's side.

[miketyson]

Originally Posted by kuromitsu

I don't think it was ambiguous - if he'd been part of the "gattai" the others would've noticed it, given the nature of a gattai. And I can't really see him just hanging around and not doing anything while Mikono is there. So I think he just appeared in the wrong moment (again...).
(Then again, did we ever see Molloy's gattai scene? Maybe in the background he was like "ooh, I feel something fuzzy... fuzzy and fluffy... with sharp teeth!")

Yeah we did, he came after Sazanka.

And I think you've convinced me on this point. In particular, it'd make more sense for the prophecied gattai to come a bit later, like "my words aren't reaching him, but maybe if we did a gattai..."...sigh.

Will gattai-Kagura howl at the moon?

[pingva]

Originally Posted by Zuul

You're forgetting that Mykage's is on Kagura's side.

I know, he would open the gates, but Kagura lacks a mecha and even isn't near Neo Deava. Maybe Mykage can teleport something to him, but then it doesn't make sense, it would be easier from the beginning to send Kagura with his mecha there.