2003-11-25, 07:55 | Link #41 | |
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While I agree with Koshiba that we're all more or less perverts Shirase is not some kind of pederast. Ok he seems to like cat-girl hentai but in my book I would consider people not liking cat-girls more perverted than people who do. I mean when you mix two cuddly, cute things - kittens and girls - how can you not like that? But seriosly. All I've seen so far is one guy hanging out with his niece. I'ts nothing wrong with that. Can anyone come up with a situation where Shirases behaviour towards Misao is questionable? |
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2003-11-25, 08:13 | Link #42 | |
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edit: ok ok I leave Shirase alone for now, but if he does anything to cute little Misao i'll be mighty pissed that pervert, get a real woman.
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2003-11-25, 14:36 | Link #45 | |
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2003-11-26, 01:55 | Link #46 |
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Shirase is a little ecchi, I will not deny that, but he's like a dog held on an unbreakable chain. He may think of some... inappropriate things from time to time, but he never does and never would act on them. Just to clear things up for myself and others, let's see if i can lay it out...
Shirase is Misao's mother's aunt's younger brother, and not even close enough to be exactly an uncle. His relation is just loose enuough that, if Misao were an adult, the Japanese culture would not start shouting "Inbreeding!" Shirase practically raised Misao since she was maybe 5 or 6. He grew close to her quick, and, as he saw her grow, saw how wonderful a person she was becoming, he fell in love(yes, he fell in love.) But Misao is still too young, so he's waiting for her, and holding everything back with all his might. He doesn't really have a major thing for little girls, he just realized he loved a girl too soon. Misao loves Shirase, as a big brother, and just a little more. She's more open with him than anyone. Anyone else, even her mother, she barely says three words at a time. But with him, she's a chatterbox. She seems to have just the slightest crush on him. She trusts him completely, and this leads to a problem. In every 3-part ep, you sometime have a sequence like this: Shirase almost starts to lose his grip on his less appropriate feelings, but holds it back just in time. Misao notices what hes thinking, sort of, and, trusting and "liking" him as she does, happily obliges, to such ends as showing off her school swimsuit. Nothing bad, but maybe questionable. At the moment that happens, BPS's current employer appears and thinks he's committing illegal actions with a minor, but doesn't turn him in because the employer needs him. Now, in episode 3, we meet Yunoki Yoriko, a hacker Misao's age with as much skill as BPS. She adds a dangerous third wheel into the relationships. Yori-tan(as Misao says she'll call her) is direct, and just a little manipulative. What's worse, while Misao might be on the verge of growing up, Yori-tan has fully matured mentally. That is to say, she's ecchi. And open and direct about it. She sees what's going on between Misao and BPS, and finds it entertaining. I get the feeling that, in the near future, she's going to be creating some real mischief and forcing a great deal of tension into the relationships. In the end, she will force everything out into the open, for good or bad. |
2003-11-26, 02:09 | Link #47 |
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Thought I'd add a note here. The term "hacker" has been avoided by a few people in here, so I'll clarify the terms.
"Hacker" is a good programmer, from the term "Hacking together" some eloquent(really good) code. It is a compliment, meaning that a person is good at programming. Hackers these days refers often to those who use those skills to satisfy a curious streak in them, but they have a strict "look, don't touch" rule. They will only plant little surprises into governments, corporations, and other hackers. The gov's and co's because of a certain disdain for their attempt to hide information which hackers believe should be completely free, and other hackers as a sort of rivalry. They do not directly or intentionally harm "civilians". "Crackers", on the other hand, are literally criminal-hackers. They use their skills not only to indulge their curious natures, but to actually profit illegally at the expense of others. These people don't have morals, but they are not, strictly speaking, hackers. Hackers typically dislike them. Comparing a cracker to a hacker is sort of like comparing a person who breaks in and steals everything to someone who breaks in to take a look at your personal decor. Also, you occasionally get a Kracker. The K basically says that they are people who use their hacking skills to help them kill people. Rare, but dangerous. So a hacker is not a criminal, and calling someone a hacker is actually a compliment. so don't get tense. Shirase himself is a Wizard. That's a hacker who is so skilled that it's almost like magic on the computer. Don't anger a wizard. They've got stuff far worse than "I love you" or the worm. Trust me. BTW, I've noticed that the child-romance thing is getting popular in anime. We've got Rizelmine, UFO Princess Valkyrie, and now BPS. I find it amusing like any other romance-comedy situation, but I fear that this means we will never see BPS on this side of the Pacific. Too bad. |
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2003-11-26, 03:11 | Link #49 |
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Seiryuu: You summed up everything great!
And Yoriko seems like a cool character. :P I like her personality so far. Child Romance? I've never really had a problem with that in anime. Then again.. Sex, Age, race, incest, blah. None of that's really ever bothered me. I enjoy all romance just the same. I'm really wondering how the Misao/Shirase thing is gonna come about though. :P As for incest not bothering me.. We'll blame that on Angel Sanctuary. ^^; Gahhh. Wish these episodes were longer~ |
2003-11-26, 15:55 | Link #50 |
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Oh man, the first episode really dashed my hopes, I love programming and was really looking forward to an anime with a programmer as the main character. I could deal with the stereotypes but the constant reuse of animation among other things was a letdown. But, episode 2 redeemed the series, the opening and closing animations were finally there, and they're great! The hacking scenarios have been interesting so far.
I think it's funny that the other characters think Shirase is a big pervert and then tolerate it. But he's really just a closet pervert so it's OK. Too bad Yoriko is an evil lolita type, I don't think it's cool to sexualize children like that. Hopefully the anime will use it for all the comedic value without actually being offensive. Rizelmine made me sad by crossing the line too many times and I couldn't really watch it, hope they don't do that here! Yeah there isn't much content in each part, but since the opening and closing are good now it's OK. Can't complain about the price, either |
2003-12-02, 22:25 | Link #51 |
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Ok, I''ll give up.
Now after part 3 of ep 3 I'll just have to admit to the fact that Shirase and the whole show is just on big steaming pile of pervertedness It's funny though... No, wait I take that back. Shirase is no pervert. He's just a bit eh - emotionally complex? Yeah thats the word. Good at computers but sucky with emotions... Crap. That doesent sound convincing at all. Makes it hard to justify liking this show as much as I do though |
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seems like someone else other then me has revived this thread once again. ep3 part 3, yet another episode full of pertverted situations. Like the one with Yoriko and Shirase doing it doggy style. Is was a misunderstanding but that was just plain nasty, anymore of these stupid non funny perverted situations i might just drop this series. the only reason im watching this is because of the hacker theme, but damn do they have to have these perverted scenes just to get ppl interested, i seriously dont think it needs it.
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Raiden, don't be afraid of the word hack. The word does not refer to breaking through firewalls, etc. It just means to program. Hacker itself is a compliment, like "hacking together some eloquent code". I discussed this in another BPS thread. Hackers are good. Even if they break into your PC, they just look around, unless you're another hacker or some bastid capitalist corporation, then all bets are off. Gov, corporations, and other hackers are considered fair game for battle and... exercise. But a hacker will not harm a civilian. They believe in look dont touch. Sort of like a guy breaking into your house to get a good look at your family heirlooms, as if the place were a museum. Crackers are the ones that'll steal stuff, hence the cr, for criminal. The point is, don't edge around the word. Just dont start talkin about crackin.
Anyway, I was a little disturbed by Yoriko, aka Yori-tan. She is a little too ecchi for me, esp. for a roughly 11-yr-old. In one part she's quite openly trying to seduce BPS, and later, well... An incoming helicopter throws up a lot of dust. BPS instinctively protects Yoriko by covering her, but somehow the attempt ends up with the military finding BPS and Yoriko in what one thread refers to as "doggy style". Yoriko obviously complains, telling BPS: "We're in public!" Now I'm not female, so I can't be sure, but I imagine if a girl were caught in an embarrassing position accidentally in some public area, she would say something along the lines of "What the !#$#%^&(&%6 are you doing?!!! GET OFF OF ME!!!" and would be upset because she had been caught in an embarrassing situation. If she was more polite, she might say that this looks a little weird, please get off. She would not complain about the fact that they were in a public place. I pity Shirase. He's got a girl he's in love with who's too young for him, and another girl who is practically throwing herself at him. I doubt he'll survive long. |
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