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2012-02-27, 09:22 | Link #23 |
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Whoa, whoa. You cannot compare the two. They are miles apart. White Album is a mature show where there is build up, reason, motivation and real life consequences to all of the character's actions. School Days is unrealistic and immature.
That's the truth for everything. Any adaptation that's made changes, it usually because of the intended audience. That's not to say it's always a good thing.
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2012-02-27, 10:49 | Link #25 |
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I noticed that someone misunderstood my words; on the other side, it's my fault for not being so much clear:
it may appear as generalizing when i said "Boys don't have morals, while girls are pure/delicate whatever and have to be conquered", but what i wanted to say was that i would rather see a random boy, with an appropriate perverted mind for his age, trying to conquer a girl, that looks like a princess. I find it more romantic that way, rather than a perverted and spoiled girl teasing non-stop an indifferent boy. So, when i watch a romance with a boy as the protagonist, i tend to impersonate in the protagonist while he tries to conquer his beloved one, that is somehow hard to get to. When the girl is instead willing to do anything, ye well, it kinda ruins the fun but on the other side it's even worse that the protagonist rejects her. Also, sometimes it also happens that the protagonist isn't that popular with girls, but when he gets a girl that likes him, he acts like a dick. I hope to have made myself clearer; i didn't want to say that boys don't have morals at all: i actually am one of those with a huge respect towards other people, and specially when it comes to the female genre. On the other side, i understand that most of teenagers, at that age, think only about sex, and no matter how they try to control themselves, I find it hard to believe that such "boys" would reject such girls. |
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There is one ecchi anime OVA, Maze: Megaburst Space where.... Spoiler:
What I do think would be good though (for an ecchi anime) is seeing a heterosexual version of Seikimatsu Darling, where both characters really want to do it but they keep screwing up the situation and hilarity ensues.
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2012-02-27, 11:48 | Link #30 |
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I don't really see why it would have to be the end of the story if the guy did "get" with the girl early on. Ever heard of relationship drama? If the guy kisses his favourite girl or even goes further and the characters establish a relationship there is always ways of adding drama. Maybe he notices the girl isn't so great after all or he wants some variety or some girl(s) tries to tempt him? He gives in during a moment of weakness and that causes drama maybe even a break-up. Those issues get resolved (or perhaps are not fully resolved watch out for season two then) and they get back together. Out of all this however the characters grow as a person and you see character development. The possibilities are endless really.
What I am saying is the anime doesn't have to end with a they lived happily ever after tone after they get together. I would argue getting together and agreeing to an exclusive relationship is only the beginning! So much drama can be had after that point. Then again that point about catering to the audience is very valid and maybe the audience does not want to see real life drama like this. Although I would argue that a lot of fanservice can still be had (and then some) if the relationship was fully established, ah but then maybe it would not be anime but hentai material if they showed everything! |
2012-02-27, 13:04 | Link #31 | |
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They're together! Now they're not. They're together! Now they're not! They're together but they're thinking of having sex with other people! Oh wait, now they aren't! OMG one just found out they could be RELATED!! Now they can't get married! *Dun dun dun!* Oh wait, that's just a mistake because one tiny misunderstanding nobody bothered to investigate in! And here comes TWO new love rivals!! The female one just got hit by a truck so now the boyfriend feels guilty!! *bashes her head against a wall* KILL IT WITH FIRE. There's nothing wrong with showing problems between the couple after they get together. It should come off as realistic and the audience should be able to identify with it because EVERY couple has problems. And each problem is written to 'test' the love between the two characters and build up the strength of their love as they go through each test. The flaw of this romantic formula is, the author just keeps throwing the most stupidest shit imaginable at you and it becomes freaking annoying to sit through...and you stop caring about the two main characters because they keep acting like idiots and make the same mistakes over and over and OVER again and you simply just want it to end, preferably with the deaths of both characters because they've undergone so much flanderization. ........which is why I'm definitely all for "that official love confession=happy ending" so we don't have to go through all that "WHAT IF!?" "BUT THEN!!" crap afterwards. XD It's best shown off-screen!
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2012-02-27, 13:15 | Link #32 |
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The thing is, relationship dramas aren't that popular a genre(from what I know) with teens and young adults(as far as I know) especially when it comes to anime - since they want to see things that provide an escape from reality. They don't want to watch things that portray the realities of relationships.
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2012-02-27, 13:16 | Link #33 | |
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2012-02-27, 13:17 | Link #34 | |
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2012-02-27, 13:39 | Link #35 | |
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I do think there can be some middle ground to all this and that is if each case is handled in a somewhat mature way. Now I don't expect a relationship with no problems, there can be problems but don't make it into breakups then make-ups 24/7 and don't have the fallouts over really stupid things. There should be moments where you can say awww that's sweet but then those moments are tempered by something really bad, and as you said that is the test were they need to do something about it. If you can see they are good people but made bad mistakes you can at least root for the characters to fix it. Beats yelling at the TV screen anyway! Then again saying all that, what Eragon said could well be right and such stories are just not very popular and are therefore not shown for that reason. Shame if that is true. |
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I draw the line at the number of love rivals though. OMG. ONE FOR BOTH IS PLENTY. And I wish writers would figure that out. But no, they just keep pulling foil characters out of their ass to stretch stretch stretch TEH DRAMA!! I like how Arina Tanemura handles the love rivals for hers: the hearts of the two lovers NEVER waver; they don't even come close to wavering. They simply push the rivals away and stay true to their love. And any forced kiss that comes from a rival is never witnessed by the boyfriend/girlfriend or if it IS witnessed, the characters COMMUNICATE to clear up the mess, so there's never a "HE'S/SHE'S CHEATING ON ME!! I WON'T FORGIVE THIS!!" sob scene.
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2012-02-27, 18:02 | Link #37 |
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The best guess I can make is that most protagonists in those fanservicey kind of shows act like spinless cowards because... Well thats what the viewership is like. Magical girlfriend, harem and fanservice shows are made for self insertion, and the average viewer of those kinds of shows simply wouldnt be able to put themselves in the shoes of a confident, Don Lothario type. The idea is to say "Hey, this hopeless loser has eager women fawning over him 24/7 and so could you!"
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2012-02-27, 18:07 | Link #38 |
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Eh, pure girls bore me sometimes. I like girls that are a bit more adventurous. "Pure" girls feel...idk...somehow kinda like pets. Not that I don't like them per se, but I'll rather have the more "adventurous" kind....just because it's way more fun.
It was 5:30 in the morning, and you had rambled on for 18 pages. Front and back! Oh-oh-oh, and by the way, Y-O-U-apostrophe-R-E means 'you are.' Y-O-U-R means 'your!'
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2012-02-27, 18:15 | Link #39 | |
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"Oh...I suppose it can't be helped!! Fine, I'll kiss you but it's not like I want to or anything! I-I'm just blushing because it's hot outside! This is sunburn!" tsundere ftw.
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