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2010-07-24, 04:24 | Link #126 | |
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Anyone would have trouble with that, from the Raikage to Madara to Itachi. He was old an feeble then; imagine him in his prime. THe Professor, whose Jutsu knowledged surpassed even Orochimaru. Even after his retirement he led a charge against the Kyuubi which knocked it out of the village. Just pointing it out
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2010-07-24, 07:03 | Link #129 |
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Madara said Minato was a man worthy of the title Hokage. At this point it's safe to assume Fourth>Sasuke. His fight with Madara showed that the fourth's fights, based on his techniques, will always end quickly.
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However, Minato is a completely different case. Hiraishin and the Flying Thunder God technique are just so overpowered that a fight can't possibly take more than a minute. Sasuke surpassing him sounds unlikely, but I guess it's possible (anything is possible). But there's no way he would make Minato come off as average. Only the Rikudou Sennin can do that. |
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Being a main character doesn't make Sasuke better than everyone else. Killer Bee would have killed him if not for random plot twists to save him, the Kage fight would have had him die no less than three times, Danzo fatally wounded him and Karin had to save him, and he would have lost to Naruto when last they met. All Sasuke has done is lurch from battle to battle, skating by on nothing more than saving throws by the author to keep him alive.
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2010-07-25, 05:20 | Link #134 |
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I detect some fan boyism here. Sasuke got his ass handed to him by the 8 tails so saying he's stronger thab the fourth I don't think so. Sasuke got a power up from Itachi so saying he has more potential is a joke.
Sasuke didn't need to learn any of his eye techniques as they were just given to him... pretty lame tbh.
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Zetsu said it was shape manipulation and it was the highest order of nature manipulation as well, seriously Sasuke made Lighting shapped into a big ass dragon. That is preety much on Minato's level. Quote:
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Now he can beat Bee because he's master his MS techniques. Sasuke just keeps getting stronger each fight, thats the truth. Quote:
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As for his chakra, again you misinterpret the obvious. What the Kyuubi says is that his chakra is more dark/evil than his own, not more powerful. Sasuke has less chakra, period. Quote:
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Against Bee, Sasuke could have used a reasonable strategy. But no. He kept getting hit because he was careless. He had to be saved twice, and his winning attack would have been cut short if Bee hadn't decided to take a vacation instead of getting up to fight again. Same thing against the Kages. If Sasuke went into a fight knowing what his opponent could do, he would surely do better. But Sasuke doesn't fight like that.
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on a personal note I think by the end of the series Naruto and Sasuke would have surpassed the Hokages in terms of skill and strength. In fact I think everyone will eventually surpass their mentors... |
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They didn't know what to expect, and? Surprise is just as important as Jutsu. Say if they both had knowledge of each others moves. Minato has the edge in speed, while Sasuke has more nin-jutsu. But the FTG is hax, even more than MS. Sasuke's Tsuki genjutsu is inferior to Itachi's by quite a margin, and we don't know how well Minato copes with gen-jutsu anyway. I just feel the need to point out that you say with his new knowledge on Bee, as well as his MS techs, sasuke will win. But doesn't Bee have knowledge on Sasuke as well.
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Really... what a pointless arguement. I can't believe i read most of it. Must've been because of my holidays but damn...
Also just.... one thing i couldnt resist. How can one.... mention something... while they havent seen everything. One could say... I am the fastest person there is. That is.... cuz they haven't seen Usain Bolt yet. Spoiler:
My point... it is likely that the Sage of Six Paths had the most ultimate forms of techniques the world ever witnessed. But Zetsu wasnt there. When Minato kicked Madara's ass in 4 or 5D Zetsu.... wasnt there. When Kakashi thought the Sharingan evolved from the Byakugan... he wasn there. When Jiraiya witnessed the Rinnegan.. and frog jedi overlord Pa told Kakashi.... Kakashi responded in shock and thought it was a myth. Here it comes.... he... wasn't there. Zetsu can't claim that something is the ultimate form of whatsoever.... because back then... he wasnt there. So... should we consider everything the truth? Cuz i know. I wasn't there...
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