AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Today's Posts Search

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > General > General Chat

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2007-06-20, 03:52   Link #101
hobbes_fan
You could say.....
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by mangatron View Post
Last bit I wanted to share with everyone. This could be the way to ruin your childhood:
[IMG]because WingD asked, check his post for the image[IMG]
Right...they cartoonized a....cartoon.
GOD IN HEAVEN HELP US.
WTF Is that? Is that a sick joke to absolutely destroy the morale of older TF fans? Who is that exactly going to appeal to?
hobbes_fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-20, 04:01   Link #102
Skane
Anime Snark
 
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Singapore
Age: 41
Arrow

Quote:
Originally Posted by hobbes_fan View Post
GOD IN HEAVEN HELP US.
WTF Is that? Is that a sick joke to absolutely destroy the morale of older TF fans? Who is that exactly going to appeal to?
The Next Generation.

Cheers.
__________________
Skane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-20, 04:37   Link #103
hobbes_fan
You could say.....
 
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Even I don't think that'd appeal to them.
hobbes_fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-20, 12:21   Link #104
Ibuki
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: USA - Houston
I haven't even seen a preview where any of the Transformers actually speak. Anybody got a link of one?
Ibuki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-20, 20:32   Link #105
mantidor
the Iniquitous
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: bogotá
Send a message via Yahoo to mantidor
I can't wait for this movie.

The G1 purists are just... well, I hate to sound rude, but close-minded and annoying are the only adjectives I can think of. When the complaints are about some flames and face masks I really can't see any childhood being raped, thats just absurd nitpicking. In movies like Doom they really changed the whole thing, the basics, you know, demons got replaced by aliens, how stupid, but this is pretty much what transformers is about, giant alien robots who transform into cool things and beat each other up as a huge ad to sell the toys, and I really have no problem with that, is pure unadultered entertainment.

I could do without the lame romantic backstory for sure, and some models look cluttered, but I won't let such thing to stop me from enjoying the awesome action scenes and transformations, and this movie has plenty. Isn't that what transformers is about? if you are into them for the story or characters I have to recommend to go away and read some books.

And as much as I loved the original series and watched it religiously, the fact that they don't look like piled up boxes is irrelevant to me, those old models with their impossible physics and parts appearing and disappearing from nowhere would look dumb in live action anyway.

I can only imagine the flaming whining hell that the internet would become if that evangelion live action movie ever becomes real
mantidor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-20, 20:49   Link #106
MakubeX2
うるとらぺど
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Age: 44
Now that the movie had it's world premier, anyone here had seen it and would like to comment ?

And who's up for the inevitable sequel to feature the Headmasters and Powermasters where humans take a more integrated role into the plot ?
MakubeX2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-20, 21:33   Link #107
wingdarkness
Retweet Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA
Quote:
Originally Posted by matidor
When the complaints are about some flames and face masks I really can't see any childhood being raped, thats just absurd nitpicking
Yeah I'm sure you want Superman to wear a purple cape...Hell let's have Batman wear hot-red...Better yet lets put He-Man in a Brooks Brothers suit and tie and let him fight Skeletor in a Hawaiian T-shirt...That's all GOOD, right? You call it nitpicking, others just find it to be stoopid...

As for story no-ones talking about deep enigmas of content, just something based on what G1 fans know (In any event my gripe was with Micheal Bay's propensity to ALWAYS put action-scenes over story, not that my main concern was story)...Give the people who grew up and loved the show (The Reason making this movie has any relevance) something to be nostalgic or excited about...that's all I'm asking...Let fathers tell their sons this was the show they loved growing up, not "WTF, a blue Optimus?" G1 fans in their mid-20's to early 30's are the reason TRANSFORMERS has meaning, why not throw us a damn bone? Why have us believe the movie is about Tyrese and some army-dudes fighting a desert-monster?

I have no doubt the movie will be visually great but all Hollywood does now of days is f*ck up classics of yesteryear, totally dismiss the original fanbase and make movies devoid of the heart that made us all cherish it (I'll be happy to list all the wak re-makes I've seen as proof of this)...I have no doubt there are people out there smart enuff to make a TF movie be great without ignoring the original fanbase...What?? So a red Optimus is gonna lose the movie 20, 30 dollars?? I hate when these people want to do things "new" for the sake of just being "new"...

So hey enjoy the movie...The popcorn's on me xD...I have no doubt my GF or my lame a$$ little cousins or my friends will drag me to this thing just for the hell of it, but I have no doubts when I come outta that theater I will have just seen BAYFORMERS and if by the luck of UNICRON I actually am floored or blown away by it, I'll be the first one to re-write history all over this thread in apology (Now THAT would be a transformation!)...
__________________
Fly since ...
wingdarkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-20, 22:34   Link #108
SoldierOfDarkness
The Dark Knight
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think?
Age: 38
Quote:
Yeah I'm sure you want Superman to wear a purple cape...Hell let's have Batman wear hot-red...Better yet lets put He-Man in a Brooks Brothers suit and tie and let him fight Skeletor in a Hawaiian T-shirt...That's all GOOD, right? You call it nitpicking, others just find it to be stoopid...
Not sure if that's the same because with a figure like Optimus, having flames there would be considered a minor detail wouldn't it(Honest to God I probably wouldn't have put them there either)? Compared to giving Superman a purple cape now that would be a complete contrast to what he originally wears.

EDIT: Looking back, the flames were done to at least stay close to Optimus' original color which of course is red since the new truck is blue.

With the mouth it's obvious that they want to make them feel more emotional or live or whatever and the faceplate is to keep it with the original transformers.

THough it's obvious that a transformer movie would be action-packed, I mean that's what it is which is probably why they got Bay into this.

For those who haven't read the book or seen the movie comics
Spoiler:

Last edited by SoldierOfDarkness; 2007-06-21 at 00:51.
SoldierOfDarkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-20, 22:59   Link #109
Aoie_Emesai
♪♫ Maya Iincho ♩♬
*Artist
 
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Unnecessary
Age: 37
Send a message via Yahoo to Aoie_Emesai
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibuki View Post
I haven't even seen a preview where any of the Transformers actually speak. Anybody got a link of one?
Yahoo!?? --> http://movies.yahoo.com/summer-movie...f1pHohO5pfVXcA
__________________

How to Give / Receive Criticism on your work / Like to draw? Come join Artists Alike
Visit my Deviantart Or Blog ~A Child should always surpass his/her parent, Remember.
Aoie_Emesai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-21, 00:21   Link #110
mantidor
the Iniquitous
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: bogotá
Send a message via Yahoo to mantidor
I see your point and all... but really... is just some flames. A more proper comparison would be the famous nipples in the batsuit, but those movies had far more problems that just the ridiculous nipples.

More important however, this is just transformers, an animated half hour long commercial to sell those awesome toys, its really really hard for me to find any "heart" into that. How can hollywood kill the heart of transformers when to be honest there never was one?
mantidor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-21, 00:57   Link #111
wingdarkness
Retweet Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA
^Transformers never had "heart"? Did you watch the 80's cartoon?? Every episode ended with a cheezy line or situation that leaves you with that good feeling inside...Transformers and it's counterpart GI JOE was known for that...

As for Prime, you're kinda skimming over the fact he's predominatley BLUE with fireballs as oppose to his normal RED coloring...As for the rest it is what it is...I imagine the Box Office numbers will kick a$$ regardless of the thousands and thousands of G1 fans who just want something that reminds them of why they loved this show so much...
__________________
Fly since ...
wingdarkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-21, 01:12   Link #112
SoldierOfDarkness
The Dark Knight
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: From the deepest abyss in the world, where you think?
Age: 38
Flames wingdarkness, not fireballs. If they were fireballs then we'd see balls of fire on him. Instead they are flames.

And check out all that blue
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...imus_prime.jpg

It seems to be reversed a bit. Optimus had blue hands and legs with a red upper body originally. Instead he has red hands, still blue legs with red flames, and a predominately red upper torso with blue on the sides. Nevertheless he's still wearing the same colors he originally had but mixed up more. I would argue it's more blue-redish.

Quote:
Transformers never had "heart"? Did you watch the 80's cartoon?? Every episode ended with a cheezy line or situation that leaves you with that good feeling inside...Transformers and it's counterpart GI JOE was known for that...
So if the movie ends with some cheezy line or situation that leaves you with that good feeling insde, then you'll enjoy it?
SoldierOfDarkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-21, 02:18   Link #113
wingdarkness
Retweet Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA
^Flames, Fireballs,Tomatoes, Tamaatoes...That might aswell be fireballs considering Prime has never had fire on his being (That's Hot Rod--Rodimus)...

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoilderOfDarkness
So if the movie ends with some cheezy line or situation that leaves you with that good feeling insde, then you'll enjoy it?
You're taking me too literal...I was objecting to matidor's suggestion that (as kids) we cared or were consumed with the commercialism of TF rather than the "heart" of the show(amoungst other things)...When you're a kid you're not caring about Hasbro's campaign blitz...But as an adult you see the commercialism and far too often the orginal work is compromised because of this (especially in Hollywood)...
__________________
Fly since ...
wingdarkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-21, 04:47   Link #114
mangatron
worshipping the pantyhose
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Manila, Philippines
I didn't want to come back here but the movie hating is getting tiring....


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Sk8lkvKFwgw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcmywtsnxJI
above link in HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2tBnQbv4Ak
http://autobotsrollout.com
exclusive Tonight Show clip from Transformers
TF reviews
interview
Access Hollywood Bay interview
[url]insert bloody long list of older links here[url]
[url]insert awesome ads on Youtube that were removed here[url]
[url]insert all quotes from haters/purists converted to people-who-ended-up-liking-the-movie here[url]
[url]insert quotes from all the stupid haters who were showed up/embarressed throughout this whole process of creating this movie[url]

I'll just say this: watch the movie first before you lay claim to what sucks and what doesn't. Because I enjoyed slamming and showing up the people who have said other movies sucked, but when they came out they ended up apologizing. Save yourself the embarressment and say what you want to say after the movie comes out. Trust me, your opinion will be more accepted that way than when you say what you say before the dmn movie even comes out.

Sorry, I have health problems. I won't even be surprised if I die before this movie comes out next month.
mangatron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-21, 19:18   Link #115
wingdarkness
Retweet Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA
Wow these links you provided were great...Love reading people who agree with me about this...Just found out Shia Lebouf is some jacka$$ named Sam and not Spike (Hell maybe they make it his nickname)...Well yet another bummer...Also heard in the review Megatron says what amounts to one line of dialouge to Starscream (My favorite character) all movie..."A boy and his car" eh Speilberg?? F*ck everything else right? Micheal Bay didn't even know what TF were?? He had to go to TF school?!??! Then he says he's gonna do the fans proud?? Now I'm convinced this movie is gonna suck energon juice...Thanx for solidifying my hatred with these links mangatron...

I particularly loved this one guys take on Micheal Bay^^:

Spoiler for Bayless:
__________________
Fly since ...

Last edited by wingdarkness; 2007-06-21 at 19:48.
wingdarkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-21, 23:50   Link #116
Tiberium Wolf
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal
Age: 44
1 extract of an interview in one of mangatron's links

Spoiler:



OMG! I can't believe this! Why in hell did they choose this guy? Aghrrrr... I feel an urge to kill him.
__________________
Tiberium Wolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-22, 01:35   Link #117
wingdarkness
Retweet Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA
"Oh you're a fan of anime..." Great f*cking reason to screw the pooch on this movie ...Micheal Bay is prolly one of those anime fans that still has to stop himself from saying "japanimation"...

If that interview is true even Spielberg's a jerk for hiring this spaz...

Hey I missed that passage where was it?? I was busy reading like 400 posts on people debating who was the "plant" that did the review (Really great and hilarious read I swear to God )..A review where all 3 reviewers basically prefaced their critique with "Well the plot, actors, and characters sucked but the action was great..."

Edit: Nevermind I found it...

More from this spaz...

Spoiler for Egotistical a$$:
__________________
Fly since ...

Last edited by wingdarkness; 2007-06-22 at 03:20.
wingdarkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-22, 05:04   Link #118
mangatron
worshipping the pantyhose
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Manila, Philippines
Quote:
Originally Posted by wingdarkness View Post
Wow these links you provided were great...Love reading people who agree with me about this...Just found out Shia Lebouf is some jacka$$ named Sam and not Spike (Hell maybe they make it his nickname)...Well yet another bummer...Also heard in the review Megatron says what amounts to one line of dialouge to Starscream (My favorite character) all movie..."A boy and his car" eh Speilberg?? F*ck everything else right? Micheal Bay didn't even know what TF were?? He had to go to TF school?!??! Then he says he's gonna do the fans proud?? Now I'm convinced this movie is gonna suck energon juice...Thanx for solidifying my hatred with these links mangatron...
...........................................











I love the way some people think the movie is attached to G1
mangatron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-22, 15:02   Link #119
wingdarkness
Retweet Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: ニュー・オーリンズ、LA
^You trying to hurt me??

Well you've accomplished that ...
__________________
Fly since ...
wingdarkness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2007-06-22, 16:55   Link #120
Mr JeburtO
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Currently, Leicester UK

heres an interesting image to give us an idea about the sizes of some of the transformers.

when the first images started to flood into the internet i was a tad concernd about how the movie would turn out, but from what im seeing it may,be a likable movie.

but as long as we're ranting im genna stick my two pence in the pile.

1. i hate it when directors put their names onto the movie title. from the majority of adverts ive heard they usually boil down to "MICHAEL BAY PRESENTS... transformers". i dont care who the director is all i want is a good movie.

2. why is megatron still in his cybertron mode. i know a giant gun would be a bit lame in the modern era but saying ... "oh yeah well he crashed and was frozen so he doesn't have an earth vehicle mode" is a bit lame.

yeah so anyway i cant wait to see this movie despite its numerable flaws in my mind
Mr JeburtO is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:36.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We use Silk.