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Old 2016-04-02, 02:54   Link #1001
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"Technically" is the keyword. The only reason Kamachi had to resort to using puns to alter the name of major church sects is to avoid a direct association with the real-life counterpart, something that other works try to avoid by using the "names used are coincidental" clause. Otherwise, I think Kamachi would just use the names of the sects itself.

Personally, I prefer Roman Catholic Church over Crossism because the latter detaches too much from the real world that the Index universe is closely based on.
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Old 2016-04-02, 05:39   Link #1002
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^I'd say the official Yen Press translation is on par with the better parts of the fan translation; there were a few parts of the fan TL where the official likely has or will do better (I remember there were some dips in quality on some parts in the fan TL).

The question of whether you'd enjoy reading it is probably just the question of whether you'd enjoy reading the story again at all.

A fair number of terms are different, but I'd guess it's not like either one is really right or wrong in most cases. For example, I believe the fan TL uses the terms Christianity or Christian Church for the JP term 十字教 ("Cross Church") in the original TAMNI books; however, the Yen Press TL translates this as Crossism or Church of the Cross. I believe the Yen Press TL is actually more accurate in some sense, in that the typical JP for Christianity would be キリスト教 ("Christ Church"), so the TAMNI term is intentionally different, though clearly referring to Christianity, so it's not like either choice is really wrong. (disclaimer: I don't actually understand JP, I'm just using my knowledge of the series and google translate, so it's possible something I said isn't perfectly accurate, but I'm reasonably confident)
Thanks, I guess I just need time to get used to the changes. Crossim sounds kinda stupid but it does make sense with their Idol Theory.As for rereading, my only problem would be with volume 11.

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There are a few places I've noticed typos or something that's probably a mistranslation, but I don't think it's too common (no one can be perfect). I've been rereading them; and I find it varies how easy depending on how interested I am in the story (ie it took me forever to reread my least favorite volume, vol 4)
It may sound dumb but, you mean in the official?

Btw, did they license the side stories as well?
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Old 2016-04-02, 10:26   Link #1003
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It may sound dumb but, you mean in the official?

Btw, did they license the side stories as well?
Yes, I do mean in the Yen Press version. But I don't hold that against them, since no one is perfect and it's not often enough to detract from my enjoyment (maybe I notice between 0 and 2 instances per volume). I expect there were still more typos in the fan tl on average, but it's not like I have statistics.

No, I don't think they licensed any of the side stories. (Any side stories that have been removed from fan TL sites were done so due to a notice from the JP publisher, not Yen Press.)
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Old 2016-04-02, 10:42   Link #1004
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It is the terminology used by author and hence technically correct. If you strictly follow the original story cannon, the fans translation we getting used to would be more incorrect.
maybe the first 12 or so but not the stuff j206 does. and even then it's hard to argue something that removes honorifics and localizes names, places ect is somehow more cannonically correct.

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"Technically" is the keyword. The only reason Kamachi had to resort to using puns to alter the name of major church sects is to avoid a direct association with the real-life counterpart, something that other works try to avoid by using the "names used are coincidental" clause. Otherwise, I think Kamachi would just use the names of the sects itself.

Personally, I prefer Roman Catholic Church over Crossism because the latter detaches too much from the real world that the Index universe is closely based on.
me too. the later term just seems like a pointless change as you can't remove all the parallels to the catholic church for the sake of being PC.... but then again i wouldn't put that past YP.
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Old 2016-04-02, 11:01   Link #1005
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I see.Thanks again.

I will try the first two volumes.
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Old 2016-04-02, 11:45   Link #1006
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I think Yen Press is trying to keep the church names consistent with the subheadings for the chapter titles in OT7 where the Anglican Church is referred to the English Puritan Church and the Roman Catholic Church is referred to as the Roman Orthodox Church.
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Old 2016-04-14, 16:53   Link #1007
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I forgot to ask this earlier, but what does Kadokawa buying up Yen Press means for the rest of us?
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Old 2016-04-14, 19:02   Link #1008
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Sad to say, but even if Yen Press had decided to spare NT, Kadokawa can just hit everything Kamachi with a DMCA notice since they are an entirely different entity from YP.

I'm already building up an archive of some of the remaining stuff, because we won't know when the next big one will hit.
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Old 2016-04-14, 19:36   Link #1009
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Kadokawa can always do this..
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Old 2016-04-25, 19:14   Link #1010
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Vol 7 has been delayed till June.
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Old 2016-04-26, 01:40   Link #1011
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Hmm, new release date for Volume 7 is June 28. Coincidentally or not, the same release date for Railgun Volume 11.
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Old 2016-04-26, 05:06   Link #1012
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I forgot to ask this earlier, but what does Kadokawa buying up Yen Press means for the rest of us?
Nothing really, Kadokawa has already hit many title without a chance to ever got published in English, Yp picking it up might quicken the process, but Kadokawa can always just DCMA us unless we do something about DCMA server altogether
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Old 2016-04-26, 08:01   Link #1013
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Hmm, new release date for Volume 7 is June 28. Coincidentally or not, the same release date for Railgun Volume 11.
Perfect. Two books in one trip to the bookstor--

Wait...June 28th...the same day Zero Time Dilemma gets released...Great...now which to prioritize?
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Old 2016-07-30, 23:19   Link #1014
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Question- is the Index manga being localized in by Yen Press as well?

I've just checked in my local kinokuniya for the first time since the localization announcements and I still can't find a single Index English Manga.

Thankfully though I did find the English LNs, up to 7.
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Old 2016-07-30, 23:28   Link #1015
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Yup it is.
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Old 2016-07-31, 02:35   Link #1016
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Then I have no clue why there aren't any Index manga lol
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Old 2017-10-21, 17:46   Link #1017
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Gonna bring back this thread for a relevant question.

Is SS1 being released at all? OT13's being released in November and OT14 (Best gril) is being released in February. Has anyone seen anything about SS1?
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Old 2017-10-21, 18:24   Link #1018
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Nope, so Hamazura's introduction is probably gonna be weird as hell in OT15.
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Old 2017-10-23, 00:17   Link #1019
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Nope, so Hamazura's introduction is probably gonna be weird as hell in OT15.
What exactly are they thinking...?
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