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JKL · 2013-04-06, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Xion Valkyrie

There's so much history and world building oozing from all the background details and offhand remarks that I really want to see an entire series built upon this concept. It really puts to shame the 'fantasy' type anime that have been coming out recently that is fantasy in name only, just slapping on some standard fantasy tropes/aesthetics on your standard rom-com plot.

Like Zero no Tsukaima!

Azuma Denton · 2013-04-06, 22:22

Like the Death Billiards theme with that open ending...
But i cannot see it as a serie, as it will gets too boring with the same pattern...

Kanon · 2013-04-07, 10:24

Death Billiards did have a Twilight Zone feel to it. I enjoyed it a lot, but the concept is a bit iffy and I'm not a fan of the ambiguous ending. It makes it harder to tell what the message or the moral is.

Spoiler for Ending:

Kirarakim · 2013-04-07, 11:02

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Originally Posted by Azuma Denton

Like the Death Billiards theme with that open ending...
But i cannot see it as a serie, as it will gets too boring with the same pattern...

I couldn't see this scenario as an entire series but something like an anime Twilight Zone would be pretty awesome.

Still as I recall Twilight Zone did usually have less ambiguous endings, and when they were somewhat ambiguous I think they still did have a clear message in the end. So in that sense I kind of agree with Kanon.

On the other hand what someone else said having the audience choose to say something about ourselves is also an interesting idea.

But maybe the point of the story is not about who ends up where.

Maybe it is more about is our fates predetermined? Can we fight for that fate or not? It seemed to me the main difference besides their ages is the young man tried to fight against his fate and the old man accepted things. Was the old man really wiser or not or had he just given up?

So maybe trying to determine the ending is actually missing the point of the story.

-Sho- · 2013-04-08, 06:18

Death billiards was intriguing. I wish they told us what the old jeez said to the grim reaper

Key Board · 2013-04-09, 23:20

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Originally Posted by -Sho-

Death billiards was intriguing. I wish they told us what the old jeez said to the grim reaper

"I regret nothing"

Also both of them went to hell

**Solace** · 2013-04-10, 02:47

More anime needs to be like Little Witch Academy. Simply amazing stuff. Heaps of praise all around the internets, so no need to repeat it again.

Death Billiards was....interesting. Kinda makes me wish for a Twilight Zone or Outer Limits style episodic anime. I'm reminded that reincarnation is a belief in eastern philosophy, so I think the misdirection was the western symbology. In the end the old man had a long life, and a good one in his view, since he seemed to have no regrets. The young man on the other hand was full of regret, wanting to go back and fix his mistakes. Youth versus old age, was part of the battle here, I think. Everything was predetermined to be in the old mans favor simply because he had the advantage of time.

One man looks back on his life with regret, the other looks forward and reflects.

Of course, what happens after the elevator is anyone's guess, but personally I think the old man got the better deal. The bartender never said that the end meant death.

whitecloud · 2013-04-10, 10:36

welll...i guess just looking from the elevator should mean something, i guess? after all if we count from the amount of sin...the old man should go to hell compared to the young man...

Kirarakim · 2013-04-10, 12:45

I can't quote on my IPod but although its the opposite of mine, brilliant interpretation Solace

Dop · 2013-04-10, 14:44

Just seen Arve Rezzle (sic) and that has "pilot episode" written all over it.

Spoiler for Arve Rezzle:

I say pilot episode because that's what it's like.

LWA is stand-alone, but could easily expand to a series if required.
Death Billiards is definitely stand alone, and while a 'Twlight Zone' style anime would be cool, the setting of Death Billiards wouldn't apply itself to a whole series (or you'd end up with Death Tiddlywinks, which would be silly).
Arve Rezzle though, I don't think that is stand alone. It's totally like the pilot episode of a series where more of the setting would be explained in later episodes. The ending is totally set up for a continuation. Which may never happen.

That said, I've liked all three so far and look forward to watching Ryo, which looks different again.

totoum · 2013-04-10, 15:26

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Originally Posted by Dop

Arve Rezzle though, I don't think that is stand alone.

Oh it's not,it's a light novel adaptation,now how a light novel adaptation ended up on anime mirai I have no idea but that alone guarantees there's more material out there.

4Tran · 2013-04-10, 15:36

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Originally Posted by totoum

Oh it's not,it's a light novel adaptation,now how a light novel adaptation ended up on anime mirai I have no idea but that alone guarantees there's more material out there.

Wasn't Zexcs given an Anime Mirai slot because Pierrot couldn't fulfill it?

Dop · 2013-04-10, 15:49

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Originally Posted by totoum

Oh it's not,it's a light novel adaptation,now how a light novel adaptation ended up on anime mirai I have no idea but that alone guarantees there's more material out there.

Thanks for that, maybe they're just not sure if it's popular enough to adapt fully and this is a way of testing interest?

totoum · 2013-04-10, 16:05

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Originally Posted by 4Tran

Wasn't Zexcs given an Anime Mirai slot because Pierrot couldn't fulfill it?

Yes but since there were a dozen other candidates I'm surprised they went with an adaptation rather than an anime original.

Then again maybe Zexcs was just the most ready to fill in on short notice,the production of the OVA was already announced before it became part of anime mirai.

White Manju Bun · 2013-04-11, 10:06

Loved Death Billiards, would totally watch a season of that even if it was purely episodic. Had a Pet Shop Of Horrors feel to it. I think Oji-san got the better deal too, Im glad the Bartender didnt tell what he had said, leave it to us to interpret it. Funny thing is since the seiyuus were the same I kept picturing Alto in my head when the guy talked.

Kanon · 2013-04-11, 10:14

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Originally Posted by totoum

Oh it's not,it's a light novel adaptation,now how a light novel adaptation ended up on anime mirai I have no idea but that alone guarantees there's more material out there.

Eh, I'm not going to bother with that one then. We get enough light novel adaptations already...

Kaoru Chujo · 2013-04-11, 10:48

I've only watched a couple so far: Little Witch Academia is an instant animation classic, almost like the birth of a new Miyazaki; Arve Rezzle is outstanding as both science fiction and relationship (bring on the series). Terrific stuff.

bastek66 · 2013-04-19, 04:19

Trigger put whole LWA on their yt channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjyhka0lM5Y

totoum · 2013-04-19, 04:25

Yeah, that's really cool trigger would do that!
Also for those wondering the mistakes in the subs will be fixed IF there's a BD release.

Dop · 2013-04-19, 04:40

That really is a very smart move from Studio Trigger, as I think their name and reputation will get a big boost from it.

2013-04-07, 10:24	Link #83
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Death Billiards did have a Twilight Zone feel to it. I enjoyed it a lot, but the concept is a bit iffy and I'm not a fan of the ambiguous ending. It makes it harder to tell what the message or the moral is. Spoiler for Ending: Why do people who die at the same time have to be tested? That doesn't make sense. It should be the same for everybody. My interpretation is that the young man went to heaven. His only crime was to desperately want to survive. He demonstrated his determination. He didn't intend to kill the old man (and he in fact didn't kill him) and he regretted what he did. He was as earnest as they come. The old man, on the other hand, was strangely calm during the whole ordeal. He either didn't care about his fate, or he enjoyed the situation he was put in. Either way, it's not normal. His sinister grin in the elevator leads me to think he was more evil than he let on. He reveled not in his (supposed) victory, but on the young man's loss. It's also possible he remembered his death all along and deliberately pretended to be innocent. I wish we had at least heard what he said to the Bartender. We don't have enough hints to make a guess. __________________

2013-04-10, 02:47	Link #87
Solace (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006	More anime needs to be like Little Witch Academy. Simply amazing stuff. Heaps of praise all around the internets, so no need to repeat it again. Death Billiards was....interesting. Kinda makes me wish for a Twilight Zone or Outer Limits style episodic anime. I'm reminded that reincarnation is a belief in eastern philosophy, so I think the misdirection was the western symbology. In the end the old man had a long life, and a good one in his view, since he seemed to have no regrets. The young man on the other hand was full of regret, wanting to go back and fix his mistakes. Youth versus old age, was part of the battle here, I think. Everything was predetermined to be in the old mans favor simply because he had the advantage of time. One man looks back on his life with regret, the other looks forward and reflects. Of course, what happens after the elevator is anyone's guess, but personally I think the old man got the better deal. The bartender never said that the end meant death. __________________

2013-04-10, 12:45	Link #89
Kirarakim Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	I can't quote on my IPod but although its the opposite of mine, brilliant interpretation Solace __________________ Twitter MAL

2013-04-10, 14:44	Link #90
Dop Mmmm.... Join Date: Sep 2006	Just seen Arve Rezzle (sic) and that has "pilot episode" written all over it. Spoiler for Arve Rezzle: People playing a full immersion neural link online game have their 'souls' switched and many die. A girl wakes up in a tank, doesn't know who she is, gets chased by armed guards and uses her power to control machinery through neural link to make an escape. Meanwhile a guy has gone to his sister's old room and is surprised to find his 'sister' arriving clad only in a lab coat. Except it's not really his sister, just someone else's soul in her body. Or is it? And she's being chased by 'Wardogs'... We never find out the real reason for her being chased, although she is called a traitor, but to whom? It's all a bit cyberpunky, a little 'Ghost in the Shell'-ish (although any cyberpunky anime is doomed to be compared with GitS), and is quite definitely intended as the pilot episode of a series. I think it might make for a good series, if that ever comes to pass. I say pilot episode because that's what it's like. LWA is stand-alone, but could easily expand to a series if required. Death Billiards is definitely stand alone, and while a 'Twlight Zone' style anime would be cool, the setting of Death Billiards wouldn't apply itself to a whole series (or you'd end up with Death Tiddlywinks, which would be silly). Arve Rezzle though, I don't think that is stand alone. It's totally like the pilot episode of a series where more of the setting would be explained in later episodes. The ending is totally set up for a continuation. Which may never happen. That said, I've liked all three so far and look forward to watching Ryo, which looks different again. Last edited by Dop; 2013-04-10 at 15:07.

2013-04-11, 10:48	Link #97
Kaoru Chujo Yuuki Aoi Join Date: Jul 2004	I've only watched a couple so far: Little Witch Academia is an instant animation classic, almost like the birth of a new Miyazaki; Arve Rezzle is outstanding as both science fiction and relationship (bring on the series). Terrific stuff. __________________ YUUKI Aoi 悠木碧. b92.03.27 (age 29). 2008 Kurenai (Murasaki). 2009 Yumeiro Pâtissière (Ichigo), Kiruminzuu (Riko), Yutori-chan (Yutori-chan). 2010 Vampire Bund (Mina Tepeş), Shiki (Sunako), Samurai Girls (Juubee), Pokémon: Black and White (Iris). 2011 Madoka Magica (Madoka), Gosick (Victorique), A-Channel (Tooru). 2012 Symphogear (Hibiki). 2014 Pilot's Love Song (Claire/Nina), Nanatsu no Taizai (Diane). 2015 Owari no Seraph (Krul Tepes), Rokka no Yuusha (Fremy). 2016 Boku no Hero Academia (Tsuyu, Froppy). 2017 Kino no Tabi (Kino). 2021 Kumo desu ga (watashi), Kaizoku Oujo (Karin), Heike Monogatari (Biwa), etc., etc. Total of 513 roles in anime and games.

2013-04-06, 22:22	Link #82
Azuma Denton ~AD~ Join Date: Oct 2006	Like the Death Billiards theme with that open ending... But i cannot see it as a serie, as it will gets too boring with the same pattern...

2013-04-08, 06:18	Link #85
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	Death billiards was intriguing. I wish they told us what the old jeez said to the grim reaper

2013-04-10, 10:36	Link #88
whitecloud Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	welll...i guess just looking from the elevator should mean something, i guess? after all if we count from the amount of sin...the old man should go to hell compared to the young man...

2013-04-19, 04:19	Link #98
bastek66 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	Trigger put whole LWA on their yt channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjyhka0lM5Y

2013-04-19, 04:25	Link #99
totoum Me at work Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland Age: 36	Yeah, that's really cool trigger would do that! Also for those wondering the mistakes in the subs will be fixed IF there's a BD release. __________________

2013-04-19, 04:40	Link #100
Dop Mmmm.... Join Date: Sep 2006	That really is a very smart move from Studio Trigger, as I think their name and reputation will get a big boost from it.