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View Poll Results: Code Geass R2 - Episode 25 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 791 | 63.74% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 163 | 13.13% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 95 | 7.66% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 67 | 5.40% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 17 | 1.37% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 18 | 1.45% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 7 | 0.56% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 7 | 0.56% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 4 | 0.32% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 72 | 5.80% | |
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2008-09-29, 01:12 | Link #2141 | |
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But for me it's not as simple as "So he's dead, that was the $hit! = So he's probably still alive, that was the $hit! " This isn't speaking in denial, but something that I wondered about even when I thought he was dead. The promise made to C.C. to return and make her smile, I don't understand how Lelouch death would fulfill that promise. While C.C. showed signs of finding happiness, she still told Kallen that she wanted to end the experience called accumulation. One could guess that the changed and improved world could have motivated her to live on, but there's too little supporting this from what we saw. When Lelouch found out her wish, it seemed to me that it wasn't about her suffering from the circumstances of the world. I'm not sure if the nun was troubled by the worlds circumstances or not, but Code bearers were portrayed as being tired of life rather than troubled by the shape the world was in. When Lelouch told her that he knew her real wish, I thought it was because she never found true love. She had the Geass to be loved, but never knew if someone loved her for her, or for the Geass. Another thing that supports this being her wish and not the circumstances of the world is when she asked Lelouch to say her name lovingly, when they were inside the cave. So if an improved world really was what she now wanted, then I would have liked to see some sign of this in the anime. And to be happy in this world without Lelouch makes it harder for me to understand why she would be happy. If she really wanted to die, Lelouch could have taken her Code from her. So it seems like for some reason, she decided that she wanted to live. So the question is why.
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2008-09-29, 01:13 | Link #2143 |
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he is dead, he got stabbed and got a 5 minute death scene. Obviously this is anime and anything is possible, they can bring him back just like they brought back Mwu from GSD. But for now he is dead. That's the only way to look at this unless you are a wishful fanboy.
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2008-09-29, 01:16 | Link #2148 | |
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The fact that he is dead or not is up to interpretation; saying that it is a fact that he is dead is untrue at this point. |
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2008-09-29, 01:17 | Link #2149 | |
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As for how he lives on as Zero, that is his punishment and atonement for what he did in the past. Kururugi Suzaku is dead, and instead he lives a new life of serving the people of the world.
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2008-09-29, 01:18 | Link #2151 | |
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2008-09-29, 01:20 | Link #2153 | |
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edit: flaming war? Gah, I can't type. |
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2008-09-29, 01:20 | Link #2154 |
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Well just like the ending of Code Geass hinted at Lelouch being alive, the ending of Cowboy Bebop also left a hint that Spike might be dead. Though it was never really explicitly stated by the producers. So regardless of how 'concrete' these hints may be, they will forever remain ambiguous unless the producers state otherwise.
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2008-09-29, 01:22 | Link #2156 | |
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Same for how all of this granted C.C.'s wish. I first thought that Lelouch died, even when reading some theories on his survival. But now I can't deny the possibility that he is alive, nor that it would make more sense in C.C.'s case of continued life. But I won't be sure either way until it is shown in an OVA or extended ending.
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2008-09-29, 01:23 | Link #2158 |
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No, it wasn't. Lelouch got stabbed through the heart. He did not survive that unless he had a Code. If he had a Code, it had to be given to him by C.C. since he didn't get one from Charles. We know he didn't get it from Charles because he still had Geass during the episodes following that event. We also know he didn't get a Code from C.C. because she remembers everything at the end, and we know from both V.V. losing his Code and C.C. sealing her code that the loss of the Code results in the loss of all memories after obtaining Geass. Ergo, Lelouch had no Code at the time he was stabbed, and he is dead. There is no wiggle room with any of this. There is no way in the framework of the series that Lelouch could be alive.
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2008-09-29, 01:24 | Link #2160 | |
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In any case, he's probably very happy that there's so many speculation about Lelouche's fate right now
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