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Friday · 2011-10-22, 20:28

is there a website that we can read?

creb · 2011-10-22, 20:44

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Originally Posted by Friday

is there a website that we can read?

I'm fairly certain the artbook was never translated, however the info in it was incorporated into the Last Exile wiki: http://lastexile.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

stormwaltzing · 2011-10-22, 22:12

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Originally Posted by rulfo

What fanservice? I didn't catch any. I guess it depends on the eye of the beholder.

Frankly I think if I consider those scenes fanservice, then Guilty Crown has porn scenes in it.

Fam gets another underskirt shot along with a hey let's focus on boobs shot during the one jump.

MrTerrorist · 2011-10-22, 23:53

I went to myanimelist and found this hilarious question from a poster.

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"I don't get it all, there is only 2 chapters of Last Exile: Ginyoku no Fam but how in the world did they cover into anime?"

Poor user, apparently this person doesn't know that not all animes are based on mangas. Speaking of mangas, the 1st manga volume of Last Exile: Fam The Sliver Wing is out.

Friday · 2011-10-23, 00:47

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Originally Posted by creb

I'm fairly certain the artbook was never translated, however the info in it was incorporated into the Last Exile wiki: http://lastexile.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

thanks creb

rulfo · 2011-10-23, 01:07

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Originally Posted by stormwaltzing

Fam gets another underskirt shot along with a hey let's focus on boobs shot during the one jump.

Uh... Sorry.. I can't follow.

By any chance were you talking about this one?

Spoiler for ???:

creb · 2011-10-23, 01:44

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Originally Posted by rulfo

Uh... Sorry.. I can't follow.

By any chance were you talking about this one?

Spoiler for ???:

He's talking about the 1/10th of a second equaling one frame out of the thousand+ in episode two where Fam is leaping towards her Vespa, and because she wears a skirt, you see a flash of bloomers.

There is a subset of viewers who's life mission is to make this show about fanservice because they are desperately looking for any reason they can latch on to in order to keep the sanctity of the first Last Exile on its pedestal through their rose-colored nostalgia goggles.

MrTerrorist · 2011-10-23, 01:58

BTW, the Animax character bio page for Sliver Wing has been updated.

Waffeln Ladro · 2011-10-23, 03:36

watched ep2 and I think is really good! is only ep2 but the feeling is like alrdy at the end of the series. 1 thing to mention not considered good nor bad but I feel llike I'm watching steampunk version of Gundam series

Kumoenvy · 2011-10-23, 08:21

I really love the second episode! It was great: from the music to the plot... I particularly love the role Dio is playing in this series. I'm glad they didn't reintroduce him just please previous fans with a crappy role. His flying skills are just amazing as ever, such as the ever awesome immelmann turn. I am also in love with the design of the eyes of those who are Guild-like (ie Dio, Alauda & Luscinia). The bloodline of these people and their role in this Earth society is one that interests me a lot.

Another thing that fascinates me is the design of the environments, particularly those of the bridges in the battleships and even the throne room for the King of Turan; featuring very vast spans of glassed domes. Although architecturally it makes no sense (then again, it is a series about steam powered flying battleships), it is still very beautiful non the less.

Although initially I was wary of the cast of too many females, I actually really like Fam and Giselle who, in my opinion, don't actually come out as that loli. Nor do I think that fanservice has been all that apparent in these past two episodes...

Spoiler for minor ones:

stormwaltzing · 2011-10-23, 11:20

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Originally Posted by creb

He's talking about the 1/10th of a second equaling one frame out of the thousand+ in episode two where Fam is leaping towards her Vespa, and because she wears a skirt, you see a flash of bloomers.

There is a subset of viewers who's life mission is to make this show about fanservice because they are desperately looking for any reason they can latch on to in order to keep the sanctity of the first Last Exile on its pedestal through their rose-colored nostalgia goggles.

I was the one defending the OP shots earlier when people were already crying fanservice because I know it existed in the first series, but they didn't go crazy overboard with it. After that awkward shot in episode 2, though, I'm just sideeyeing a bit because I hope they don't go overboard with this one like a lot of series do nowadays. I don't have the first series on a pedestal or look at it through nostalgiaglasses and it's not my life mission, just a concern after a rather pointless use of angling.

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It was great: from the music to the plot... I particularly love the role Dio is playing in this series.

The music in episode 2 was amazing. Especially during the battle. I can't wait for an OST. ;~;

And Dio was the reason I started flipping out over the new series when he was announced. To be honest I didn't care originally as long as he was just there and being Dio (and giving me more in-depth answers to how he recovered from the first series [SHAKESFIST]), but after seeing the OP and his involvement in episode 2 I'm really REALLY intrigued to see what they do with him in this series.

azarhal · 2011-10-23, 12:05

Somebody finally decided to sub Last Exile in english, no more wait for Funi.

The music and airships in this episode were just amazing, too bad about the quality drop in the 2D art.

Sides · 2011-10-23, 12:09

Sky battles, YaY.
Kind of jealous, I want one of those vespas. The italian one are fun, but i want conquer the skies.

DangerMouse · 2011-10-23, 13:09

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Originally Posted by stormwaltzing

I was the one defending the OP shots earlier when people were already crying fanservice because I know it existed in the first series, but they didn't go crazy overboard with it. After that awkward shot in episode 2, though, I'm just sideeyeing a bit because I hope they don't go overboard with this one like a lot of series do nowadays. I don't have the first series on a pedestal or look at it through nostalgiaglasses and it's not my life mission, just a concern after a rather pointless use of angling.

The music in episode 2 was amazing. Especially during the battle. I can't wait for an OST. ;~;

And Dio was the reason I started flipping out over the new series when he was announced. To be honest I didn't care originally as long as he was just there and being Dio (and giving me more in-depth answers to how he recovered from the first series [SHAKESFIST]), but after seeing the OP and his involvement in episode 2 I'm really REALLY intrigued to see what they do with him in this series.

That's fine, (and an above angle also being better since it would have made the jump look cooler) but it's quite notable that it was still extremely tame compared to the blatant stuff in even serious shows these days, comparatively speaking they barely showed anything (heck they could have easily showed a full upskirt like most shows would) and the shot was cut really quick so I think there's still reason to believe they won't go overboard with it even if there's a tad more of it than last time sprinkled around but we'll see as this episode didn't really have much at all and instead was basically just as heavy as some of the best of the first season, and if that's the case such strong events and mood will easily be what is remembered just like last time where the first season's fanservice is basically forgotten.

We need a release date for the first of hopefully at least another 2 OSTs (like the first series)!

Yeah, Dio's already delivering in such a short time. (I'm already getting hooked on the new characters too)

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Originally Posted by azarhal

Somebody finally decided to sub Last Exile in english, no more wait for Funi.

The music and airships in this episode were just amazing, too bad about the quality drop in the 2D art.

Agreed, most of the 2D art will probably come back to a middle ground if not closer to the first eps quality since that's what usually happens (interestingly it didn't really effect the backgrounds as that art and stuff like the clouds were still really nice most of the time) but it's ashame of all the eps that got effected it was this one and not some mid-season one where even nitpickers wouldn't care anymore because everything else was so freaking perfect and a huge hook. If they'd managed to animate ep 2 like they did ep 1 and with those amazing events and mood and that music throughout the ep and those incredible airship battle visuals and Fam's flight through the ship, this would have been (and still is) one of the most memorable episodes of anime in ages.

I'm not counting on it and it probably won't happen since the video releases happen so much faster these days (I think most these new fall shows already have their first Japanese BDs dated already), but it would be wonderful if they could fix it up for the BD release.

Kusa-San · 2011-10-23, 13:14

Episode 2 :

Another great episode ! It's the anime of the season for me. 9/10. I already like all the character. Dio, of course, but I like Fam, her copilot and the two princess too.

But what I want really now is : Will we see Claus and Lavy once again ? It seems that Al, Tatiana and Alister will be back (from the ending). So I really hope it will be the case for Claus and Lavy too !!

I want Claud to fly with Fam

DangerMouse · 2011-10-23, 13:43

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Originally Posted by Kusa-San

Episode 2 :

Another great episode ! It's the anime of the season for me. 9/10. I already like all the character. Dio, of course, but I like Fam, her copilot and the two princess too.

But what I want really now is : Will we see Claus and Lavy once again ? It seems that Al, Tatiana and Alister will be back (from the ending). So I really hope it will be the case for Claus and Lavy too !!

I want Claud to fly with Fam

It would be totally awesome.

ars89 · 2011-10-23, 13:52

Wow didn't expect to see Exile so soon, even Dio was surprised. So is Lily like Al? Don't see another reason for how she was able to start Exile. Pretty tough for Millia to deal with all of that. Lol at her trying to shoot the Federation guy.

creb · 2011-10-23, 14:15

So, here's my guess of what's going on so far:

* Luskinia (and Alauda) were members of a Guild that hadn't forgotten their task as the custodians of humanity's progress and future.
* They Earth healed and signaled all the Guilds on the various Presters that hadn't forgotten their mission it was safe to return. These Presters began returning humans to Earth.
* Minor wars probably started up as they are wont to do between people of different cultures/societies.
* Luskinia decides he's going to unite humanity under one flag to eliminate wars, as he sees it all as an affront to the sacred duty the Guild was given over all these hundreds of years. So, he takes power of one of the strongest countries and starts his world conquest plan. See, he's really a good guy beneath that cold exterior.

The six Exiles would hint at there at least being six (or five, good point Kanon) different Prester's worth of people on Earth. I say at least, because we also saw the Exile that is presumably from the first series in Episode One coming in for a landing. So, that's at least one Exile that isn't parked in orbit disguised as a piece of the moon.

A few other thoughts:

* Apparently, the former Empress of Ades (Farahnaz) was a more peaceful soul and had a calming effect on our resident Hitler-figure (Luskinia).

* It's interesting that these people on Earth should have some knowledge of Exiles, but were still stupid enough to attack it, causing its self defense program to annihilate them. Guess even the Guilds that kept to their mission also kept their people in the dark when it came to high technology like the Exile. To be fair, the Guilds were supposed to do just that.

* I wonder if we're getting more foreshadowing here in Episode Two concerning Fam's heritage when she remarks: "Father huh? Wouldn't it be great if we could all run away together?"

* Liliana gets +10 points for her commanding presence and courage assaulting the Ades fleet. She gets -20 points for immediately surrendering her entire country at the hint that her sister might be hurt.

* Alauda's pet name he has for Luskinia: Luskea. Wonder when the man on man fanart is gonna start with these two, similar to what we saw with Dio/Luciola?

* The music and aerial battle was great. It's a very different mood from the first series, and while the first one was probably a little more realistic with all its quiets and long drawn out sequences (more Hunt for Red October than Star Wars), I very much prefer these orchestrated, dramatized affairs we're seeing here in terms of putting a big grin on my face.

* I wonder if the Lasas crashed into the water and if there goes Fam's dream of naming a battleship after herself?

* No preview this time!

Spoiler for Lastly, Dio fanart from fox.cc on pixiv:

Kanon · 2011-10-23, 14:15

Wow! So much happened in episode 2! I didn't expect the show to this fast-paced. I assume it will slow down soon enough if it's true that this season is 2 cour.

So, the moons were Exile ships and not colonies after all. Do we know how many Prester worlds were created? There are at the very least five Exiles (or six depending on whether the moon's still up there), which indicates that the people from that much Presters started migrating back to earth. The people from Turan were from one of those, and Luscina's goal is to wipe all the nations built by Presters off the face of the earth, as he feels people who abandoned it when it was in bad shape are not worthy to come back (he's probably also afraid they'll just nearly destroy it again). Pretty smart to use the Exile in order to accomplish that.

I surmised earlier that Alvis might come back as the Exile's pilot now, and the events of this episode comforted me that will most likely be the case. What better than an Exile to counter another Exile?

I'm liking this premise. This show just might live up to its predecessor!!

hoarfrost · 2011-10-23, 14:39

So much happened this episode, so I'm kind of overwhelmed. After reading the two above posts, I think I vaguely understand the continuity from last season to this one. I'll just say that I thought the music direction was excellent. A different mood from LE1, but still pretty effective nonetheless.

This is already tied with Fate Zero for my favorite of the season and I really hope the rumor about it being 2-cour turns out to be true.

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2011-10-23, 08:21	Link #470
Kumoenvy Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011	I really love the second episode! It was great: from the music to the plot... I particularly love the role Dio is playing in this series. I'm glad they didn't reintroduce him just please previous fans with a crappy role. His flying skills are just amazing as ever, such as the ever awesome immelmann turn. I am also in love with the design of the eyes of those who are Guild-like (ie Dio, Alauda & Luscinia). The bloodline of these people and their role in this Earth society is one that interests me a lot. Another thing that fascinates me is the design of the environments, particularly those of the bridges in the battleships and even the throne room for the King of Turan; featuring very vast spans of glassed domes. Although architecturally it makes no sense (then again, it is a series about steam powered flying battleships), it is still very beautiful non the less. Although initially I was wary of the cast of too many females, I actually really like Fam and Giselle who, in my opinion, don't actually come out as that loli. Nor do I think that fanservice has been all that apparent in these past two episodes... Spoiler for minor ones: Except maybe the odd panty flash, the opening theme or Liliana's breasts... And I must add, at what point did she take off her coat? Did Alauda take it off for her? She didn't seem to be wearing it when he kidnapped her... Either way, it was a great scene with great music where Dio flies over and realises he's kidnapped her and killed the crew. Regarding the use of the opening theme at the end of the episode... I actually didn't really mind it because I felt it signified the true beginning of the series. But I have a feeling they didn't change their use of it when they showed these episodes at the premiere's a few months back....?

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ars89 One-Eyed Dragon Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ, USA	Wow didn't expect to see Exile so soon, even Dio was surprised. So is Lily like Al? Don't see another reason for how she was able to start Exile. Pretty tough for Millia to deal with all of that. Lol at her trying to shoot the Federation guy. __________________ My Anime List

2011-10-23, 14:15	Link #478
creb Hiding Under Your Bed Join Date: May 2008	So, here's my guess of what's going on so far: * Luskinia (and Alauda) were members of a Guild that hadn't forgotten their task as the custodians of humanity's progress and future. * They Earth healed and signaled all the Guilds on the various Presters that hadn't forgotten their mission it was safe to return. These Presters began returning humans to Earth. * Minor wars probably started up as they are wont to do between people of different cultures/societies. * Luskinia decides he's going to unite humanity under one flag to eliminate wars, as he sees it all as an affront to the sacred duty the Guild was given over all these hundreds of years. So, he takes power of one of the strongest countries and starts his world conquest plan. See, he's really a good guy beneath that cold exterior. The six Exiles would hint at there at least being six (or five, good point Kanon) different Prester's worth of people on Earth. I say at least, because we also saw the Exile that is presumably from the first series in Episode One coming in for a landing. So, that's at least one Exile that isn't parked in orbit disguised as a piece of the moon. A few other thoughts: * Apparently, the former Empress of Ades (Farahnaz) was a more peaceful soul and had a calming effect on our resident Hitler-figure (Luskinia). * It's interesting that these people on Earth should have some knowledge of Exiles, but were still stupid enough to attack it, causing its self defense program to annihilate them. Guess even the Guilds that kept to their mission also kept their people in the dark when it came to high technology like the Exile. To be fair, the Guilds were supposed to do just that. * I wonder if we're getting more foreshadowing here in Episode Two concerning Fam's heritage when she remarks: "Father huh? Wouldn't it be great if we could all run away together?" * Liliana gets +10 points for her commanding presence and courage assaulting the Ades fleet. She gets -20 points for immediately surrendering her entire country at the hint that her sister might be hurt. * Alauda's pet name he has for Luskinia: Luskea. Wonder when the man on man fanart is gonna start with these two, similar to what we saw with Dio/Luciola? * The music and aerial battle was great. It's a very different mood from the first series, and while the first one was probably a little more realistic with all its quiets and long drawn out sequences (more Hunt for Red October than Star Wars), I very much prefer these orchestrated, dramatized affairs we're seeing here in terms of putting a big grin on my face. * I wonder if the Lasas crashed into the water and if there goes Fam's dream of naming a battleship after herself? * No preview this time! Spoiler for Lastly, Dio fanart from fox.cc on pixiv: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.p...st_id=22480569 __________________ http://myanimelist.net/animelist/creb http://myanimelist.net/mangalist/creb It feels like years since they've been updated, btw. Also, cake.

2011-10-23, 03:36	Link #469
Waffeln Ladro Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Rivendell	watched ep2 and I think is really good! is only ep2 but the feeling is like alrdy at the end of the series. 1 thing to mention not considered good nor bad but I feel llike I'm watching steampunk version of Gundam series

2011-10-23, 12:05	Link #472
azarhal Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	Somebody finally decided to sub Last Exile in english, no more wait for Funi. The music and airships in this episode were just amazing, too bad about the quality drop in the 2D art.

2011-10-23, 12:09	Link #473
Sides Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 42	Sky battles, YaY. Kind of jealous, I want one of those vespas. The italian one are fun, but i want conquer the skies.

2011-10-23, 13:14	Link #475
Kusa-San I'll end it before April. Join Date: Jul 2008	Episode 2 : Another great episode ! It's the anime of the season for me. 9/10. I already like all the character. Dio, of course, but I like Fam, her copilot and the two princess too. But what I want really now is : Will we see Claus and Lavy once again ? It seems that Al, Tatiana and Alister will be back (from the ending). So I really hope it will be the case for Claus and Lavy too !! I want Claud to fly with Fam

2011-10-23, 14:15	Link #479
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Wow! So much happened in episode 2! I didn't expect the show to this fast-paced. I assume it will slow down soon enough if it's true that this season is 2 cour. So, the moons were Exile ships and not colonies after all. Do we know how many Prester worlds were created? There are at the very least five Exiles (or six depending on whether the moon's still up there), which indicates that the people from that much Presters started migrating back to earth. The people from Turan were from one of those, and Luscina's goal is to wipe all the nations built by Presters off the face of the earth, as he feels people who abandoned it when it was in bad shape are not worthy to come back (he's probably also afraid they'll just nearly destroy it again). Pretty smart to use the Exile in order to accomplish that. I surmised earlier that Alvis might come back as the Exile's pilot now, and the events of this episode comforted me that will most likely be the case. What better than an Exile to counter another Exile? I'm liking this premise. This show just might live up to its predecessor!! __________________

2011-10-23, 14:39	Link #480
hoarfrost Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Age: 31	So much happened this episode, so I'm kind of overwhelmed. After reading the two above posts, I think I vaguely understand the continuity from last season to this one. I'll just say that I thought the music direction was excellent. A different mood from LE1, but still pretty effective nonetheless. This is already tied with Fate Zero for my favorite of the season and I really hope the rumor about it being 2-cour turns out to be true.