2011-05-13, 00:32 | Link #13661 | |
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2) One should be careful about with whom to wed. |
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2011-05-13, 00:50 | Link #13662 | |
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2) So.... you're not going to trade with China at all. Seriously, do you two think at all before you post?
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2011-05-13, 01:00 | Link #13663 | |
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You are sure it is the chinese and not your government? and this comment comes from a communist country? seriously, who are they kidding. edit:yeah, I know corruption is everywhere, so inb4 the US has it too. |
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2011-05-13, 01:10 | Link #13664 |
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1) By Chinese, you mean the people? They are not my wife!
2) I'll gladly trade with them, why not? Now if they venture into nationalizing MY investment, that is not cool. Other than that, who cares! Any nonsensical financial manipulation on their part will hurt them on the long run, not us. You are making it unnecessarily complicated. |
2011-05-13, 02:30 | Link #13665 | |
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I don't think I have to elaborate on the "what happens" part where you made the Chinese government lose face.
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2011-05-13, 02:30 | Link #13666 | |
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1. Learn to read metaphors/similes please. What he means is that you if you were to trade with China, then what happens within its borders would affect you/your government/your country. The same way your father-in-law beating his daughter/your wife would affect you. 2. If you say you'd gladly trade with them, you're contradicting what you said earlier: "one should be careful about who to wed" which in the context of this conversation means "one should be careful about who to trade with" and that implies you'd be weary about trading with China, but then you say you'd gladly do it. Which is it? |
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2011-05-13, 03:36 | Link #13667 |
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Why is it, that the intelectually unarmed in a forums' discussion, defend their point of view most rigorously, to a point where they make themselves fools in the eyes of others. If one considers the pros and cons (being basically resistant to learning/not accepting anything outside of their short horizon, loosing kudos with basically no real social reward..) it would appear wise to simply shut up in such a case. Maybe it is just hard to see that plank in one's own eye because of the plank in the eye hinders the view on the plank that causes such behaviour.
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2011-05-13, 03:39 | Link #13668 | |
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Syria's Assad reported to have ordered no shooting
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...73N02P20110513 Quote:
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2011-05-13, 03:53 | Link #13669 | |
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Pakistan paramilitary Shaqbadar base bombings 'kill 80 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13385597
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2011-05-13, 04:15 | Link #13670 | |
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Rationale? If they moved forward, they are pushing towards key installations. If they pick up anything, they are bound to throw them. So Assad orders probably went that if they "do anything else besides that or those of outright suspicion", don't shoot them. *sarcastic*
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2011-05-13, 07:33 | Link #13671 |
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Well the rationale of China is that this is all within their national sovereignty.
To use another analogy, if you were giving your kid chocolate, and the health freak mom next door said you were a terrible parent and you should have your kids taken away etc. etc. you would be right to say, "this is my kid, and my yard, not yours, I run it how I like". Now whether this could be extended to political prisoners is another matter. But the Chinese say "this is how we run things, don't tell us what to do," and there really isn't much you can do to respond to that. I suppose their feeling is that if they cave to one thing, it's not much time before they cave to everything. And it's not exactly like the Chinese government doesn't have the approval of it's populace. Last time I checked their approval rating was pretty high. The only people who can really be expected to change how the government does thing, is the people themselves. |
2011-05-13, 11:15 | Link #13672 |
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It's these kinds of stories that make me feel the US really is becoming a police state under DHS.
I guess the legacy of Clinton, and GW Bush continues under Obama. Here's the latest round: Senate Bill Gives Feds Power to Order Blacklisting of Piracy Sites http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/protect-act/ I wonder, would animesuki be on that list of banned sites because of the bit torrents it hosts?
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2011-05-13, 11:27 | Link #13673 | |
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2011-05-13, 11:50 | Link #13675 | ||
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I'm not afraid of anything when trading with them. They take my stuff I beat the crap out of them and vice versa. Since both are rational, there is little chance that absurd scenario would ever happen. Now, I won't venture into endorsing "democracy," "freedom," "human rights" and such within their country. They can nuke their own people if they want, and no one should give a rat. Trading is just a goddamn civil activity. Now it is perceived as some kind of privilege granted to those who contribute to the betterment of humanity, a case of libertards running amok. |
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2011-05-13, 12:15 | Link #13676 |
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I'm dragging Bill Clinton into this because his administration was the first to try and censor the internet.
The ACLU sued (and won) against COPA back in the 1990s because that law was unconstitutional. From ACLU website: ACLU and Others Challenge Internet Censorship Bill Signed by President Clinton http://www.aclu.org/technology-and-l...sident-clinton Thus, Bill Clinton does share some of the responsibility for this trend in US law.
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2011-05-13, 13:42 | Link #13677 |
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When one or two people don't get it and the rest do... there's a different answer the forum readers might have. Especially when the repeated demonstration of it provides precise examples of Jinto's observation.
Back to relevant topics, Gundam does have a point -- both major parties have been to some extent co-opted (bribed, etc) to police the interests of the entertainment gatekeepers (RIAA, etc) running roughshod over the rights of the general community. Often they'll cloak it in "think of the children" language... but the actual use of any related laws has been more often used as privacy erosion hammers.
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2011-05-13, 14:04 | Link #13678 |
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speaking of lil childrin....
will my monthly internet fee go up because of this...? The Justice Department wants Congress to mandate that internet service providers retain data on their users' internet usage for a longer period of time. And to illustrate how important the feds think the having access to that IP data is, they're using the story of how law enforcement failed to track down the maker of a video depicting the rape of a two-year-old girl..... http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...-retention.php edit: my guess is longer retention = more need for storage devices..... and if ISPs aren't big shots like Comcast then they'll just pass the cost to subscribers Last edited by flying ^; 2011-05-13 at 14:59. |
2011-05-13, 17:10 | Link #13679 | |
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Anyway, our constitutional court shot it down in 2010. Tools like retention of telecomunications data should not be used in a democracy imo. Its not per se bad, but it reduces the hurdles for the conversion into a police state (corporate police state) by at least one step and is inherently dangerous for a democracy. So I am basically less conerned about higher costs actually (storage is kinda cheap these days).
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2011-05-13, 23:45 | Link #13680 | |
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Pakistan and questions over foreign aid
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