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mellomarie · 2011-06-20, 05:28

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Originally Posted by fazer

Ops, sorry I guess we are all Anaru lovers, I mean Anjo lovers...no pun intended!

hahaha. not the best wording lol.

also have to agree with the sentiment that menma's wish is connected to jintan's mother/or just plain jintan.

TrippedUp · 2011-06-20, 10:40

^ That's what I was thinking too. Maybe Menma planned to surprise Jintan by doing something special for his mom with the rest of the kids. Which is why she said for everyone but Jintan to meet up with her.

I'm still unsure that this will have a satisfying ending if it ends next episode.

OceanBlue · 2011-06-20, 11:12

Great episode. Honestly, I was disappointed in the previous one or two episodes since I felt like it shifted the character dynamics towards everyone vs. Jintan without any real reason [I mean, Tsuruko and Poppo seemed to go along with the, "She won't forgive me" thing for no reason], but this episode moved them back towards their individual conflicts. Great episode. My chest was tight throughout.

I'm not a big fan of the haircut though, but symbolic gestures are symbolic, I guess.

Kyuu · 2011-06-20, 15:37

This episode would be a bad time for Menma to leave anyways -- 'cause every issue that plagued her friends and loved ones would continue unresolved.

hypergolic · 2011-06-20, 22:19

Preview of the last episode is now availableeeeee!!!

Ep.11 "The flower which bloomed in that summer"
http://www.anohana.jp/story/11.html

TrippedUp · 2011-06-21, 07:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypergolic

Preview of the last episode is now availableeeeee!!!

Ep.11 "The flower which bloomed in that summer"
http://www.anohana.jp/story/11.html

That could barely be considered a preview .__.

Darknemo2000 · 2011-06-21, 07:29

Tsuruko doesnt look good with short hair.

Jan-Poo · 2011-06-21, 07:40

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Originally Posted by Dop

After this episode, I'm starting to think that Menma isn't here for an unfulfilled wish, but rather that she's here for a promise she made to Jintan's mother.

There's a bit where she's remembering a conversation with Jintan's mother, and after the flashback we see Menma looking a bit translucent, and she says "wait a little more". That's significant, I think.

That's what I also think. Menma is the kind of person that worries more about others than to herself, I'm sure that the wish that must be fulfilled is something related to Jintan's mom.

Then again even the firework was meant for jintan's mom's sake, but apparently that's not the one.

That day when Menma gathered everyone, she wanted to talk about that wish, since Jintan wasn't invited it was probably meant to be a surprise of some sort.

However Jintan was there in the end. Who invited him? And did Menma actually manage to talk to the others before he joined them?

SagaraSouske · 2011-06-21, 12:42

Below is the best post I read about this Eps. I copied it from comments on RC from Junk. (Spoiler tag because it is a long post.)

Spoiler:

Ano Hana is a lovely series. Easily among the loveliest I’ve seen. It feels as if it’s been created with much tenderness and care.

I appreciate that there hasn’t been any sitcom-style character development. I’ll be a bit disappointed if Menma’s mom suddenly accepts the other kids or if everybody with unrequited feelings suddenly gains new outlooks on their futures and can casually walk away from what has become years of emotional investments. What I do hope to see is new resolutions to move in better directions even if hurt and disappointment still lingers. The pain of losing someone to death never goes away and we all fill the holes left behind with our most precious and extreme feelings. What the characters in this series need is a way to start learning how to live with what happened, not major changes. Or, at least, that’s my opinion. I’m not trying to say a differing view is wrong, just sharing a different viewpoint in that the series has value in how it has operated more like messy, unresolved real life as opposed to a tight plot. At not point while watching did I feel it was lazy, sloppy, or poorly plotted/written. Again, just an opinion.

If I remember correctly, Jintan ran out on his mom as she prepared to die and, at this point, I’m assuming he never went back. Menma did and the conversation she had with his mom seems to be the reason Menma wanted to do something for Jintan. Did Menma want the group to do something to see his mom off to heaven so she can be properly reincarnated? Fireworks, maybe? I’m guessing that whatever Jintan’s mom asked of or told to Menma is what she wanted when Menma asked them all to meet that day. It seems that it is connected to whatever Menma’s ghostly wish is. Clearly there is a connection; how many times have we seen Menma paying respects at his mom’s shrine? Maybe Menma feels a need to help Jintan get over his Mom and his witnessing of her going to heaven might help him realize his mom experienced that, too. And that it’s not bad.

On another topic, I think it’s become clear Poppo saw Menma’s death. From what was said, it seems he ran off after her (or possibly her and Jintan, his exact motives are still unclear: naive, optimistic boy wanting to heal the group rifts, chasing a crush, or wanting to hit Jintan for what he said? or all?.
Possibly 2 things happened: he saw her accident but was unable to prevent it, thus has been carrying a terrible memory as he could only watch Menma die and/or he startled her and accidently triggered her fall which, again, he witnessed and has had to carry a secret guilt. It would help explain why his behavior towards Menma has been quite different from the others and possibly also why he’s the only one who really went out into the world and appears to have changed in those years. He saw the truth so hasn’t had the mystery of what happened hanging over him, plus he might have seen how easily death can come even to the young. If he has dwelled on what happened, he hasn’t let it stop his personal development, it may have driven him as the others got stuck in confusion and wondering.

I’m unconvinced he felt romantically towards Menma as kids; considering the type of boy he was I imagine he would have been thrilled to have the attention of any of the girls. I suspect the seeming emergence of his feelings for Menma is complicated: youthful affection which grows distorted by grief and imagination. But the way he chanted at Jintan here seems to be the beginning of Poppo’s anger for what Jintan said about Menma surfacing. That’s not necessarily proof of youthful romantic feelings for one girl; it could be a loyal, idealistic boy’s idea of how girls (in general) should be treated, particularly by someone as admired as Jintan.

fazer · 2011-06-23, 04:07

The end is near! Hope it doesn't disappoint!

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2011-06-20, 15:37	Link #124
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2011-06-21, 12:42	Link #129
SagaraSouske Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007	Below is the best post I read about this Eps. I copied it from comments on RC from Junk. (Spoiler tag because it is a long post.) Spoiler: Ano Hana is a lovely series. Easily among the loveliest I’ve seen. It feels as if it’s been created with much tenderness and care. I appreciate that there hasn’t been any sitcom-style character development. I’ll be a bit disappointed if Menma’s mom suddenly accepts the other kids or if everybody with unrequited feelings suddenly gains new outlooks on their futures and can casually walk away from what has become years of emotional investments. What I do hope to see is new resolutions to move in better directions even if hurt and disappointment still lingers. The pain of losing someone to death never goes away and we all fill the holes left behind with our most precious and extreme feelings. What the characters in this series need is a way to start learning how to live with what happened, not major changes. Or, at least, that’s my opinion. I’m not trying to say a differing view is wrong, just sharing a different viewpoint in that the series has value in how it has operated more like messy, unresolved real life as opposed to a tight plot. At not point while watching did I feel it was lazy, sloppy, or poorly plotted/written. Again, just an opinion. If I remember correctly, Jintan ran out on his mom as she prepared to die and, at this point, I’m assuming he never went back. Menma did and the conversation she had with his mom seems to be the reason Menma wanted to do something for Jintan. Did Menma want the group to do something to see his mom off to heaven so she can be properly reincarnated? Fireworks, maybe? I’m guessing that whatever Jintan’s mom asked of or told to Menma is what she wanted when Menma asked them all to meet that day. It seems that it is connected to whatever Menma’s ghostly wish is. Clearly there is a connection; how many times have we seen Menma paying respects at his mom’s shrine? Maybe Menma feels a need to help Jintan get over his Mom and his witnessing of her going to heaven might help him realize his mom experienced that, too. And that it’s not bad. On another topic, I think it’s become clear Poppo saw Menma’s death. From what was said, it seems he ran off after her (or possibly her and Jintan, his exact motives are still unclear: naive, optimistic boy wanting to heal the group rifts, chasing a crush, or wanting to hit Jintan for what he said? or all?. Possibly 2 things happened: he saw her accident but was unable to prevent it, thus has been carrying a terrible memory as he could only watch Menma die and/or he startled her and accidently triggered her fall which, again, he witnessed and has had to carry a secret guilt. It would help explain why his behavior towards Menma has been quite different from the others and possibly also why he’s the only one who really went out into the world and appears to have changed in those years. He saw the truth so hasn’t had the mystery of what happened hanging over him, plus he might have seen how easily death can come even to the young. If he has dwelled on what happened, he hasn’t let it stop his personal development, it may have driven him as the others got stuck in confusion and wondering. I’m unconvinced he felt romantically towards Menma as kids; considering the type of boy he was I imagine he would have been thrilled to have the attention of any of the girls. I suspect the seeming emergence of his feelings for Menma is complicated: youthful affection which grows distorted by grief and imagination. But the way he chanted at Jintan here seems to be the beginning of Poppo’s anger for what Jintan said about Menma surfacing. That’s not necessarily proof of youthful romantic feelings for one girl; it could be a loyal, idealistic boy’s idea of how girls (in general) should be treated, particularly by someone as admired as Jintan. __________________

2011-06-20, 10:40	Link #122
TrippedUp Member Join Date: Jun 2011	^ That's what I was thinking too. Maybe Menma planned to surprise Jintan by doing something special for his mom with the rest of the kids. Which is why she said for everyone but Jintan to meet up with her. I'm still unsure that this will have a satisfying ending if it ends next episode.

2011-06-20, 11:12	Link #123
OceanBlue Not an expert on things Join Date: Jun 2007	Great episode. Honestly, I was disappointed in the previous one or two episodes since I felt like it shifted the character dynamics towards everyone vs. Jintan without any real reason [I mean, Tsuruko and Poppo seemed to go along with the, "She won't forgive me" thing for no reason], but this episode moved them back towards their individual conflicts. Great episode. My chest was tight throughout. I'm not a big fan of the haircut though, but symbolic gestures are symbolic, I guess.

2011-06-20, 22:19	Link #125
hypergolic Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011	Preview of the last episode is now availableeeeee!!! Ep.11 "The flower which bloomed in that summer" http://www.anohana.jp/story/11.html

2011-06-21, 07:29	Link #127
Darknemo2000 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lithuania Age: 39	Tsuruko doesnt look good with short hair.

2011-06-23, 04:07	Link #130
fazer Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Asia	The end is near! Hope it doesn't disappoint!