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2013-03-19, 20:07 | Link #12924 |
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Yeah, it's just too similar to be anything but intentional. It's like two chapters of Phoenix Wright, both having you defend a guy with the same occupation, but each going in highly different routes. I'm sure of it.
This can't be a curb-stomp, as it would not end a chapter. Then again, who can understand the mind of the reclusive author, Nisio (if that is his real name). |
2013-03-19, 20:07 | Link #12925 |
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Hello everybody,
I have been reading all these comments so I had to join. This is for Sol. I know you claim that medaka's love for zen is based on "dependancy" since he gave her a purpose and you might be right. So I decided to browse some chapters to see if I could find kumagawa's reason for his love. What I realized is that his love is no different from medaka's love based on his graduation speech. His comment about how he was worried that without medaka and ajimu he could go back to his old self seems like him being dependant on her. His love could be based on this. Only difference is he did realize that he didnt need her but by his reaction when she came back shows that he really does love her. His love is now genuine but if you say that his love was always genuine then there is no reason why medakas love isnt genuine either. As for medaka and zen I believe that they need to break up or stay apart for a bit see if they really love each other. Now for the rest of you guys do you think zen would have rejected medaka if it wasnt for the teacher? Sorry I typed this at work. |
2013-03-19, 20:38 | Link #12926 | ||
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Kuguhara's speech was more about if they should or not force Medaka to stay by begging her, something Zenkichi decided he'd do only if leaving was something Medaka herself honestly didn't want to do, which is why he said he was relieved at her feelings, since then he'd no longer have to force her to stay. Zenkichi's speech was rather about the fact that she's not going to be the sole reason for him to live anymore, alot along those lines, which was his reason for him rejecting her. If I had to speculate, I'd say that this change in him is something that started right before his fight with Iihiko, went through deeply when he was thinking about his life after that fight, and culminated in chapter 186.
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2013-03-19, 23:15 | Link #12927 | |
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I don't really think it's "persistent romantic emotions", but more the relationship of being defined by their enemies, the whole "valuing enemies more" thing. I may be harping on semantics, but I think these relationships can be defined as more than pairings. While you do point out instances of Kumagawa's development relating to Medaka, it seems automatically tempered towards romance in your view, which I do think is a stretch. What does he really love about Medaka? Is it just attributed to the illogical, instinctual aspect of love isn't really explainable? Delving into personal reasons, one of my misgivings about the pairing is that it's a bit too...blatant for me. The whole "opposites attract" without much else makes it feel more like some predestined relationship than genuine development. Of course, being her main opposition Kumagawa has ironically given Medaka some of her happiest moments, but they may hold different weights to people. You know what, why hasn't anyone really talked about Medaka having a harem? Or perhaps I haven't been reading the right forums. |
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2013-03-20, 02:07 | Link #12928 | |
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It's actually quite laughable your judging shit by good writing writings as if it's some universal thing. Just because you agreed with the majority a few times there will always be instances where you don't, that's means your sense of good writings don't mean shit, as that sort of thing isn't consistent. You judge it by what you like, if that opinion is common then the book is considered good but that doesn't mean it's always will be common. Not all critics rate the same things as highly s oher there will ALWAYS be disparity that's why being a critic isn't about holdingup to some silly universal standard as good writing but being able to make complelling arguments to to why to beliee what you do about a particular story. |
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2013-03-20, 09:25 | Link #12930 | |
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Please take a moment to catch your breath guys. Even if nothing serious has happened yet; there is a reason as for why shipping threads are no longer created here.
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2013-03-21, 23:42 | Link #12936 | |
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https://twitter.com/CXCScans/status/314927117894811648
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