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Just to clarify on something: When I said "at whim" in an earlier post, I don't actually mean there was no thought behind it or that it was carelessly decided upon. I meant that this wasn't something on the level of adding a new Amendment to the US Constitution. It was more like something that Uzumi could discuss with his cabinet members and then make a decision upon. |
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2013-01-27, 12:10 | Link #5723 |
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Nope, all the actors had to rerecord their lines since they became more experienced with their characters. The most obvious is Kira who many comment he sounds different from the original series (the actor wasn't too experienced by that year and the only big role he had was in Scryed as Kazuya). Happens with all rereleases in Japan just like Metal Gear HD
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2013-01-27, 16:32 | Link #5725 | |
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The only thing different about the HD remaster is some scenes being rearranged/remastered and some lines being changed with other stock lines, they sound exactly the same as the original, with the only difference being the actual sound quality and some SE edition lines being used aswell. Nothing new was recorded for the HD remaster except new OP/ED's, unlike the 0083 REMASTER where everything was rerecorded. Well, atleast you see/get a better explanation to why he survived this time |
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2013-01-27, 16:33 | Link #5726 | |||||||||
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The fact is, that joining the Alliance for Orb meant gaining an ally rather than an enemy which they could not defeat. It's a valid attempt at ensuring the safety of Orb and cannot be said to be out of character, especially when there are new people running the country. |
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2013-01-27, 16:36 | Link #5727 | |
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Unless they had mass coordinator lynchings going on in the background. lol |
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2013-01-27, 16:43 | Link #5728 | |
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2013-01-27, 16:58 | Link #5729 | |
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I was hoping we'd see footage of the civilians starting riots and broadcasters announcing that martial law has been proclaimed (kind of stuff you see in movies). In normal time, Yuna should not going outside of his ivory tower after such an outrageous decision because this decision of aligning with the EF is material to spark a civil war. |
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2013-01-27, 17:53 | Link #5730 |
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Spoiler for @ monster:
Episode 35 Bwahahahahaha, that's hilarious. They just totally anticlimactically cut to scene with Kira in it like its freaking nothing. Not even small attempt to get a surprise from the audience. Didn't even bother this time. And Shinn and Rey sure are proving to be giant hypocrites. So the enemy is what ZAFT tells you is the enemy huh? Funny I don't recall that quite applying to Stellar. Can't believe Athrun missed out on such a golden opportunity. And I can't say I'm getting behind the whole "It's all LOGOS's fault". One group can not be the sole reason why wars happen and are prolonged. People's long time grievances also play a massive part. Let's think of the current situation with America and Iran. The animosity between the two goes back decades and isn't just going to clear up between the two. I thought Destiny did well to demonstrate this when those terrorists caused the Julius Seven incident so maybe this is an example of the Chairman's darker side but now it's starting to look like that Julius Seven incident was rigged and I certainly hope not. When I look at today's conflict it seems to me to be more focused on the masses, with things like nation-building, COIN operations and the effect of drone use. But maybe this is narrow-minded. Those are conflicts are about powerful western nations verses weak insurgencies whilst this is about two equally strong sides. But I guess it just shows that any war anime that centres on ace pilots is not going to be totally with the times. Of course since the setting is the future, maybe it doesn't have to be but I can't help but find it a little ironic that a distant future war is modelled after our past. For an anime that does actually use media manipulation, PR and propaganda, I think it could do a little better.
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The object of the Alliance, right now, is about fighting the PLANTs. And since Orb maintained its independence, the status quo for the people living in Orb remains. |
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2013-01-28, 00:43 | Link #5733 |
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Hmm,while they did regain their independence after cagalli returned in the Akatsuki, i'd like to know if it affected the country at all, if it didnt (Minus ORB's military being deployed against the Minerva) then it wasnt a bad deal, totally against their ideal's their country was built on, but it wasnt a bad deal. lol
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2013-01-28, 01:02 | Link #5734 |
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Concerning the whole Astray thing, I'll just put this up for reference: ORB built the Gundams because of collaboration between the EA and a rogue faction within ORB's governing structure: the Sahaku family. The Sahaku family mainly did it so they could steal the data and use it to build their own mobile suits: the five Gundam Astray Frames. The Sahaku family did this to gain power and did NOT harbor the overall ideals of ORB's other ruling families.
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it does seem silly they'd let ORB join with their coordinator population, seeing how the grunts in the first strike shouted heil blue cosmos to put it short. i guess its just another thing Destiny pooped out without thinking about it too much |
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It's also possible that many Coordinators who left Orb back during SEED simply never returned, like Shinn and those other engineers that Cagalli was accusing ZAFT of using to make use of Orb technology at the beginning of Destiny. |
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2013-01-28, 05:02 | Link #5740 | |
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the EA has always been shown as selfish and evil, none of the higher ups in SEED objected to exterminating the coordinators, they simply said they should focus on the energy crisis on earth instead of launching a full-scale attack against Zaft after obtaining the N-jammer canceller data |
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