Re:Zero - Character Discussion - Emilia

[Kairin]

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[-Hikaru-]

Going around social media and other forums, there are lots of misconception regarding Emilia lol.

Anime won't go past arc 3, and probably's not going to have another season. So more backstories about Emilia won't be revealed. Most people won't have a chance to know more about her. That's pretty sad.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by -Hikaru-

Anime won't go past arc 3, and probably's not going to have another season.

Why do you think it won't get another season? Re:Zero is doing well in preorder sales estimates (for Blu-Rays) last I checked. The anime itself will likely be a good commercial success.

Re:Zero is made by White Fox. White Fox is a fairly new anime studio, but they have shown a willingness to do sequels (two separate seasons of GochiUsa).

Just to keep this post on topic - I like Emilia's character design. Very elegant and stylish. She also came off very well in her first appearance in Episode 1.

[Grifis]

I like design for Emilia the most and as a character as well. If it turns out she's not the main girl, I'm dropping this like a hot potato.

[Applehell]

She is if you're worried about that, but the plot requires her to takeback seat here because the narrative follows Subaru.

[Sixth]

I like Crusch more than Emilia.

[Cerilla]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Why do you think it won't get another season? Re:Zero is doing well in preorder sales estimates (for Blu-Rays) last I checked. The anime itself will likely be a good commercial success.

Re:zero has the same problem as OPM: The series catched-up with the commercial source material. The LN currently is at 9 novels which correspond to the end of Arc 3. Yes, the web source is already further away, but adapting rough material give no merit commercially.

I am sure this will get sequel, but not soon. Gotta wait a bit to let the LN content build up. I forecast it will come up in 3 years.

Re:Zero is made by White Fox. White Fox is a fairly new anime studio, but they have shown a willingness to do sequels (two separate seasons of GochiUsa).

AFAIK, White Fox got no calls on deciding sequel. If anything, it shows the trust of the stakeholder to White Fox.

Originally Posted by Grifis

I like design for Emilia the most and as a character as well. If it turns out she's not the main girl, I'm dropping this like a hot potato.

I actually like what the author doing here. There is tendency to feature the main heroine most of the time in LNs, so letting her get back a bit here and let the story flow is nice.

[HayashiTakara]

Emilia is very dull with no development. This arc is very Rem focused just like the last arc, I dunno how they gonna squeeze in development for Emilia to make it where she's worth empathizing with.

[Loran Cehack]

We haven't seen much of her in the anime other than the "heroine" persona, so it's hard to feel any sympathy besides her design and what little she did in the series so far. Sure, she's a good person with a great sense of justice, but that is as generic as they go. Without any sort of background arc or something like that, she'll continue to be just "the heroine".

[Dengar]

Maybe I'm just weird, but I never required hours upon hours of exposure before I actually was able to care for a character. A lot of their worth can be inferred through their interactions with characters we do know and empathize with, for example.

Also, on the flipside, it's hard to call someone shallow if you've been exposed to them so little. In a show with so many characters, that'd be almost unfair.

I'd also hardly call this arc Rem-focused since it did nothing but reaffirm things about her that were already established. She has a strong sense of loyalty, which is pretty much her shtick. There's nothing else you can say about her, really.

[Sayaka Rei]

Originally Posted by -Hikaru-

Going around social media and other forums, there are lots of misconception regarding Emilia lol.

Anime won't go past arc 3, and probably's not going to have another season. So more backstories about Emilia won't be revealed. Most people won't have a chance to know more about her. That's pretty sad.

Yes, so sad and so true.

But actually I appreciate Emilia already in these three arc a lot, she was already my favorite character before I know other things.; and if it isn't for her in arc 1, I wouldn't have approached this series.
So, well, hope that in a few years there will be a S2, meanwhile we can only read.

Besides, I don't like that someone (not here, on other sites) to cheer Rem should insult her.

[Applehell]

Originally Posted by Dengar

Maybe I'm just weird, but I never required hours upon hours of exposure before I actually was able to care for a character. A lot of their worth can be inferred through their interactions with characters we do know and empathize with, for example.

Also, on the flipside, it's hard to call someone shallow if you've been exposed to them so little. In a show with so many characters, that'd be almost unfair.

I'd also hardly call this arc Rem-focused since it did nothing but reaffirm things about her that were already established. She has a strong sense of loyalty, which is pretty much her shtick. There's nothing else you can say about her, really.

I agree. It's rather short-sighted to call a character shallow due lack of screentime or fact they possess some common character traits. Outside of being more fleshed out it's not as if Rem is unique in that regard either and I still like her a lot regardless. In fact if one hasn't noticed Rem (and Ram to lesser extent) are the only characters we know everyting about besides Subaru himself (also to a somewhat lesser degree) simply because she is the only one Subaru has won over completely. For everyone else's Subaru is still viewed either a friend, co-worker or aquntiance even if he's closer to them then they are to him due to loops.

Emilia has demostrate a decent amount of characterization even if we haven't gotten in depth with her, but those are spread throughout the episodes. And think it's pretty obivious you will learn more about her like with Rem when the that time comes as it is not as if this is the end of story. Same for every character honestly.

I also don't know what being just "heroine" is supposed to mean since last I check it just position not personality trait. Heronines in anime are extremely varied to begin (hotheaded, dizzy, kuuderes, yanderes etc) there no such thing as a generic template their all adhere too.

[Grifis]

Originally Posted by Applehell

She is if you're worried about that, but the plot requires her to takeback seat here because the narrative follows Subaru.

Thanks. In a way it looks like he wanted to please the fanboys and go for hafu hafu or something.

Originally Posted by Cerilla

I actually like what the author doing here. There is tendency to feature the main heroine most of the time in LNs, so letting her get back a bit here and let the story flow is nice.

That would make the character more like supporting than main. (When I watch dramas and this happens, I start to wonder what is the main dish and what is the side dish.) But that is only because I'm getting a little bored with the death gimmicks and sadistic torturing on main boy Subaru. I realized the great world building outside of the loops I wanted to see isn't all that great after all.

[Cerilla]

Originally Posted by Grifis

Thanks. In a way it looks like he wanted to please the fanboys and go for hafu hafu or something.



That would make the character more like supporting than main. (When I watch dramas and this happens, I start to wonder what is the main dish and what is the side dish.) But that is only because I'm getting a little bored with the death gimmicks and sadistic torturing on main boy Subaru. I realized the great world building outside of the loops I wanted to see isn't all that great after all.

Many people spoke the same concern like you. When Tappei is asked why is Rem far more popular than Emilia, his answer is pretty much "there road are still long, there are plenty of time for Emilia to become Heroine. Deal with it". What a cheeky guy.

Tappei is obviously playing a long game with Emilia, which unfortunately won't be covered in the anime.

[Applehell]

Originally Posted by Cerilla

Many people spoke the same concern like you. When Tappei is asked why is Rem far more popular than Emilia, his answer is pretty much "there road are still long, there are plenty of time for Emilia to become Heroine. Deal with it". What a cheeky guy.

Tappei is obviously playing a long game with Emilia, which unfortunately won't be covered in the anime.

The author said in a Q/A that he has everything to ending planned out and at the point the WN is at (arc 6) the story currently halfway. That is definitely a good sign of somebody who is control of his plot and everything in it. I think Rem's presence is being overselled a bit. It's not unusual for secondary characters get in limelight for while depending on the circumstances, and her popluarity is unlikely effect the course of the plot. At the end of day she just happened to be fleshed a little earlier then everyone else because her past has the least connection to overall narrative which makes her easier to talk about.

[Nicaea]

Originally Posted by Applehell

The author said in a Q/A that he has everything to ending planned out and at the point the WN is at (arc 6) the story currently halfway. That is definitely a good sign of somebody who is control of his plot and everything in it. I think Rem's presence is being overselled a bit. It's not unusual for secondary characters get in limelight for while depending on the circumstances, and her popluarity is unlikely effect the course of the plot. At the end of day she just happened to be fleshed a little earlier then everyone else because her past has the least connection to overall narrative which makes her easier to talk about.

That still means that he needs to do quite a lot to make Emilia likeable for a lot of people.

[Grifis]

Originally Posted by Cerilla

Many people spoke the same concern like you. When Tappei is asked why is Rem far more popular than Emilia, his answer is pretty much "there road are still long, there are plenty of time for Emilia to become Heroine. Deal with it". What a cheeky guy.

Tappei is obviously playing a long game with Emilia, which unfortunately won't be covered in the anime.

I watch the anime for Subaru and Emilia so I'll deal and drop it. This type of fading in and out isn't for me.

[Applehell]

Originally Posted by Nicaea

That still means that he needs to do quite a lot to make Emilia likeable for a lot of people.

Not really, because she pretty likable as it is, even some other characters might be more likable. We just need to get to her character arc to learn more about her. That said, if one insist on disliking Emilia than her development won't matter to them anyway. You can't reason with that.

[Sayaka Rei]

Originally Posted by Cerilla

Tappei is obviously playing a long game with Emilia, which unfortunately won't be covered in the anime.

Yes, perhaps we're not that far away from the beginning of it, in my opinion. This part of the series (arc 3) perhaps serves as a basis for the setting of world, the development of her and the relationship with Subaru. A second season would help ? I think yes. So let's keep our fingers crossed.

[Sheba]

Speculah as an anime-only viewer:

Spoiler:

Emilia is actually the vessel of Satella. Who likely have been the one behind Subaru's summoning. Each of his successes have been furthering her plans until she is ultimately released, leaving Subaru with a very sadistic choice.