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This gives her more reason to go Pactio, and inadvertedly gain access to Caliburn. If you can't tell, well, I'm trying to save Caliburn. <.< Quote:
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The longer she spends there, the less likely they are going to find her, and may call off the search. Then enter Kouya, Lindy and Chrono running their own smaller search. However, even if they search Mahora, Keroko'd be in Wales, then if you really want to be evil, when they get to Wales, she'd be in Mundus Magica. I know one comedy was like this! So Negiha'd be told from 2 fronts, with Keroko on the Negi side, and Kouya searching from TSAB. Maybe he'd get lucky and finally find some way into Mundus... (DISCLAIMER: I'm only in Mahorafest, so forgive me if I mix the Negi side of events up! ><) I think this agrees with both sides, but am I still rolling contrivances...?
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2008-07-28, 08:05 | Link #3062 | |
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2008-07-28, 08:23 | Link #3063 |
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A roll of the dice event would be an event so custom tailored that it can only come about one of a few unlikely ways without direct intent to make it happen. Such events, that if you were to say, delay the person involved in it by ten seconds by making them stop to tie their shoes, that it wouldn't happen.
A lot of dramatic last second saves tend to be Roll of the Dice type events. (Especially ones involving explosions with lots of shraptnel...) If they weren't specificly written to beat the odds, chances are they wouldn't have, and you'd have your heros smeared all over the pavement in a nasty mess. But that wouldn't make for a good story if the heroes got smeared, now would it? An easy to note example of a Diceroll event would be Erio saving Fate near the end of Strikers. Had that boulder fallen sooner, or had he arrived ONE SECOND late... Fate would be a smear. Or perhaps, had the command panel been six feet to the left, the boulder would have landed next to her and given her quite the scare. If you start hinging too many points of the plot on these type of events, the plot becomes extremely contrived, as the simple introduction of having someone stop to tie their shoes may likely keep the 'chain reaction' of plot points from ever happening, and prevent the story from ever occuring. Readers will catch onto that, see it and be like: While we all love to see people beat the odds, gambling is not good storytelling. (Unless the gambling is relisticly portrayed... where lots of your diceroll events end in failure... Final Destination anyone?) "Rimmer? Can't you tell the story is not gripping me? I im a state, of non-grip-ness. I am comPLETELY SMEGGING un-GRIP-ED! SHUT THE SMEG UP!" |
2008-07-28, 08:38 | Link #3065 | ||
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Oh. Yeah. She probably did what you'll need to do with Keroko. Establish a "normal" profile.
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I think there's away for her to maintain contact even without knowing she's doing it. But I also think it would be best if you could solve this problem without resorting to it. So, try to reset her background into one that can disappear for over 2 years. Quote:
The Kyoto debut has been scrapped. She's now starting at Mahora itself. Which is where the problem of her being out of touch for months comes in. |
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2008-07-28, 08:50 | Link #3066 | |
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But yeah since its been scrapped, its up to Keroko whether to reinstate it.
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2008-07-28, 08:52 | Link #3067 |
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Hmm, after doing a bit more research, it seems that the core of the problem is not so much the amnesia itself for the purpose of leveling up Keroko (as I initially claimed), but rather that without the amnesia, Keroko doesn't really have a reason to form a paction with Negi. She is perfectly capable of fighting herself, and is a powerfull mage in her own right, what situation would be sufficient for her to form a pactio? The amnesia was my former excuse, as Keroko did not have acess to her Device and powers. However, I think its safe to say that the amnesia introduces way too many plotholes to fill up without raising eyebrows.
I have one possible reason, she forms a pactio with Negi during an attack for research. While she is perfectly capable of handling herself, the situation is perfect to get a pactio, which is a rare and unique method of magic. Negi-tachi co of course don't know of this untill Keroko decides to explain herself, which can now be shifted to somewhere before Chao's attack (as a nice tie-in when Haruna goes "Ah, where is the time police?" Keroko goes "Technically, that would be me."). It would make a lot more sense that way, Keroko will keep in regular contact with the TSAB, and she has a reason for forming a pactio. I can keep her out of most of the major combat scenarios before the Negi-tachi (or rather those members that aren't there) reach her level. Not planning to, I'm simply giving her a Device, nothing blindingly awesome with multiple forms and whatnot (in fact, the swordchuck form is going to be the only form its capable of taking). More an Armed Device with no intelligence. |
2008-07-28, 08:55 | Link #3068 | |
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2008-07-28, 09:06 | Link #3069 | ||
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Though this does make my planning a lot more difficult! Never mind that! I'm not so easily defeated! >:3 Oh and btw, which combats would she be out of? Quote:
*ruuuuuuuuuuuunz*
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2008-07-28, 09:26 | Link #3071 |
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It was fun while it lasted. XD
Guess an Errata for Negiha Keroko is needed. Same goes for Kouya; though I think the final touches will have to depend on this settling down a bit more. *goes back to stirring his Khrack pot*
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2008-07-28, 09:50 | Link #3073 |
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She's had two years to research magic in the Negima world, not finding out about one of the central pieces of magic in the Negimaverse would mean she was doing a pretty bad job. Sure, she might not know exactly how a pactio works, but after studying mages for two years, I'd expect her to at least know what it is (in fact, knowing what it is but not knowing how it works might even increase her drive for getting one).
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2008-07-28, 09:54 | Link #3074 |
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I'm on fire tonight; Sitting at 12" from 4 threads Rapid Firing the Kli'kn out of everything with my Pulse Rifle. Haven't done that in a loooooong while.
@Keroko: Yes it is looking a lot better, but how do you convince Negi to make one out of nowhere?
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2008-07-28, 10:10 | Link #3075 | |
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Not a big problem, her finding out about pactios can be a story in itself. Negi makes pactios with his students and she gradually realises, "There's something like this here and I hadn't seen it all this time?" Throw a crisis and no other girls around, easiest. The "kiss-match" in the Kyoto trip, the School Festival, he did quite a few there, I recall. Heck, just bribe Chamo with something. |
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2008-07-28, 10:14 | Link #3076 | |
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The summary? During the Kyoto arc, Keroko goes out on her own, Negi follows her, Monkey girl arives to get rid of the now alone Negi, Negi tries to fight but can't get through the monkeys alone, Keroko offers her help, Chamo speaks up that this would be as good a time as any to form a pactio (Chamo wants as many pactio partners for Negi as possible, remember?), Negi agrees (he's being pressured from both sides after all) and a pactio is formed.
the scene is a bit more comical, as Keroko is very surprised when Chamo tells her what the demands for the pactio are -Keroko figured it'd be a blood-oath thing, which it can be- but quickly gets over it and kisses Negi. Edit: Ninja's by Jimmy. :P Quote:
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2008-07-28, 10:42 | Link #3079 |
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No, no, no, I mean, all this undercover stuff makes me wonder what Keroko really is like. I don't know why, but Keroko on the surface and Dark!Keroko underneath suddenly haunted my imagination.
But I guess its just me; Clerics can vary in personalities so it might cloud my interpretation... Like I said, need that errata.
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I wonder where this will lead... ...indeed. Gendo: Don't steal my lines. Quote:
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Maybe just a tad, huh? Ah, ic ic Quote:
*punts Aaron* Hmm...Signum and Teana singing What bout My Star together... *RUNZ* Lol . So Katrina really likes her ice cream, huh? There can never be enough *RUNZ* |
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