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Old 2021-05-02, 15:41   Link #1101
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i hate the god ki concept more. The first blunder is mortal can't sense it. Well Jiren doesn't give a crap about that concept for sure. And right now, almost everyone can feel it (now they cannot feel the UI...we will see how long it lasts)

The second blunder is that you have to keep the ki inside...well dragonball has been using the amount of ki's aura to determine a fighter's strength for years....so good luck with that....Vegeta's deep blue's enormous aura is just an insult to that idea XD
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Old 2021-05-02, 23:46   Link #1102
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Old 2021-05-03, 16:35   Link #1103
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i hate the god ki concept more. The first blunder is mortal can't sense it. Well Jiren doesn't give a crap about that concept for sure. And right now, almost everyone can feel it (now they cannot feel the UI...we will see how long it lasts)

The second blunder is that you have to keep the ki inside...well dragonball has been using the amount of ki's aura to determine a fighter's strength for years....so good luck with that....Vegeta's deep blue's enormous aura is just an insult to that idea XD
The funnier part is that now in the manga is stated that until you don't become white-haired, you're still in your base form and you just have insticts ultra developped, so how the hell Goku managed to dodge and damage his opponents in the tournament while he was in base if base form is infinitely weaker even than Super Saiyan 1? Doesn't matter the reflexes, if you are infinitely weaker and slower of your opponents, your reflexes are useless because your body can't keep up with them. And then there is this transformation which is still not explained at all and its presence even made pointless the part about the "instincts" as in that form Goku is far way stronger, faster and have an aura greater (as his ki blast were stronger and their power is determined by the amount of aura) than any of his opponents (including Jiren who shitted on his SSB form like it was nothing) so if you're already way faster and stronger than your opponent, you don't need ultra instinct at all, just the aura perception would be more than enough to anticipate your enemy (like Vegeth used to do with Buuhan, he humiliated him because he was way stronger and used the common ki perception to anticipate his attacks).

And Vegeta deep blue form is the stupidest ever in fact in both manga and anime didn't even try to explain it all, how he obtained it, why it was so powerful, etc...

The concept of UI would have been perfect in the first series, when martial arts still mattered, not now. And btw I think it was far better the first series about prediction, as Goku was able to anticipate any attack and how he would have been attacked without looking at his enemy, just by perceiving the air vibration caused by the movements of the opponents. I mean, it's better to have any single part of your body move on his own the moment you are attacked or knowing how you will be attacked even before you're about to be hit and react properly using your freaking brain and counter even before that moment?
However it was too OP for DBZ so Toriyama nerfed that ability into perceiving the Ki, simplyfing the concept.
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Old 2021-05-03, 19:45   Link #1104
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I think it was in one panel they say the muscle can be hardened if needed under UI...so while you are in base form, the muscle can be adjusted for greater strength if needed under UI...I know, it's farfetched, but I guess that is what we have for now.
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Old 2021-05-06, 15:08   Link #1105
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Dont worry, Kaioken will become relevant again after Goku reaches "Saiyan beyond Instinct".
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Old 2021-05-07, 12:10   Link #1106
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Looks like Toei's Dragon Ball website leaked the announcement of a new movie.
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