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2018-11-12, 11:10 | Link #1642 |
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It'll be some time before that happens. goblin slayer is very creative in thinking how to kill goblins since he spend most of his time thinking how to kill goblins.
since priestess revealed she has Protection. 4koma joke Goblin is immobilized by multi layers of protection Goblin slayer takes out a kettle High Elf: what are you taking a kettle of water for? Goblin Slayer: waterboarding
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2018-11-12, 11:24 | Link #1643 |
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Good episode, how come GS packed a lantern though? I remember him saying torches trump lanterns because they double as weapons and are not put out as easily. GS and Shaman also went kinda overboard - too much finesse for Orcbolg's casual fighting style, and Shaman went from throwing pebbles to one-shotting ships with gigantic boulders. Could have opened with that!
We get a glimpse of the next boss, looks like another heavy hitter. On the topic of proper defense: there really isn't any. It's best to just seize the initiative in a fight and heavily injure or outright kill your opponents before you get hit, much like how in the real world armies opt for camouflage instead of heavy armor in the face of gunfire. It would be nice if Lizardman had a cloaking spell or something, he brings a lot of utility in his kit. |
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As for the dwarf, they needed to buy him time so he can cast the bigger stone blast (preparations of the catalyst then the chant). So GS, LP and HEA were stalling the goblins (if they didn't do anything, the goblin archers would have go through Priestess protection before the dwarf would be done, and there was also a risk of the goblins jumping out of their boat to attack them too).
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2018-11-12, 13:48 | Link #1645 |
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In this episode, we finally see 2 sides of the coin
One is Hero, generic isekai protagonist She just announce her presence instead of ambush Naively, stupidly, no tactic and likely no preparation. But with she just win and save the day with cheer power and OP ability Meanwhile GS and his party have to be prepared and cautious in every moves Can't use their skill uselessly, need to find the best method and opportunity to attack One wrong step and they will be defeat, so they must use all their skills and experience to win
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2018-11-12, 16:03 | Link #1647 |
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Well about half way done with the episode count and the closer we get to episode 13. The more it seems like this show will be a one and done with all the skipping around White Fox has been doing in this adaptation.
Don't get me wrong it's not that I'm not enjoying myself. It's just a shame we might not be seeing the story fully adapted. If I were able to change anything I would have had this first season adapt the first volume of the source material with bits of the side stories and Year one sprinkled in there. While season 2 could combined peices of the second and third volumes (since the third isn't heavy on the action until the end).
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2018-11-12, 16:23 | Link #1648 | |
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Blocking physical attacks does not mean blocking magical, blocking magical, does not mean blocking physical, etc, etc, etc. The description is merely emphasizing, that the oni had both powers allow to defeat silver rank parties via the above. In the manga, you see magic cast on a warrior, and a mage smashed by a phyiscal. If you take D&D-table top as it's background, a tank is absolutely able to fight off the ogres attacks, and if you had proper items or party members to fight off the magical, you're fine too. In fact real silver ranks might have magical items to deal with those, as long as they're prepared. And no barrier of protection(not a true spell) is not from the goddess. They have ranks, as we can see from tabletop origins, a barrier that can negate everything is rank7 spell, which priestess does not have, and silver/gold ranks might. Her level is not high enough to take that spell, even if it's the goddesses that determine what miracles they get (basically from what we've gather the Gods set the char sheets, but they still follow the rough rules of their own tabletop setup) If we put an ogre mage at somewhere CR7 rating, a silver/gold rank party that can properly take it on is fine. And it's never mentioned in the anime, but there are ranks an levels in GS world. For instance we know that GS has scout levels(he mentions it himself), which is how we can guess he's a warrior/scout. |
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The problem I have with your assumption is that you expect GS to work "exactly" like in a d&d campaign, even though an Ogre or Ogre Mage do -not- cast fireballs, let alone something of that size. From my perspective, the ogre in GSverse are much more dangerous than what you would consider from D&D standards, moreso that the ogre was not qualified as a "mage", yet has more than enough intelligence compared to D&D ogre.
That flashback in the LN was also accompagnied with mentions that very few adventurers could survive an encounter against an ogre, which heavily implies that it is very likely to be silver rank class at strict minimum, and every single other flashbacks pretty much point out that an entire party would be required, which is further confirmed by GS party here. Considering the ogre's strength, blocking his physical attack would result to extremely severe damage to the adventurer who attempts to block that head on. That's why I don't believe a tanker would help a single bit here. Relying on evasion is definitely much safer considering the situation. And no, the LN narration actually state that miracles are actually manifested by the goddess herself, in response to the priestess plea. The lore itself state that very thoroughly. Additionally, I'm pretty certain GS wouldn't really fancy heavy armored companion because of his usual goblin hunts. The series has heavy references to d&d in general, but it doesn't work the same way as you think, merely because GSverse has a lot of its own spins altogether, and there are a lot of things that wouldn't make sense in d&d, such as the dwarf having non fixed number of spells usable per day, while d&d wouldn't allow that due to the spell slot system. To begin with, there is no way a d&d campaign would allow a character to have absolute ZERO saving throw for everything he does.
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2018-11-12, 16:41 | Link #1650 | |
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2018-11-12, 16:43 | Link #1651 | |
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(Remember we know the sad reality is the Gods are having fun at the people's expense) Again you can't assume what parties fraught him before, it was never mentioned, and never needed to. There's a big difference in a solo, small party (like spearman and mage girl) or a subjugation party (like GS), and so on. None of that means they will be wiped out, since their power level and preparation are different. And every circumstantial evidence points us to D&D variant of some form. A full on barrier stronger then the priestess is almost certainly likely. Because even if they skim it off the top, everything else makes parallels. There's no way a newbie would happen to have a high end spell without some odd concidence, and no one makes a fuss about priestess having it. In fact the more you read/watch GS the more you can draw parallels. There's more reason to use D&D rules and assumption then it is not. |
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2018-11-12, 16:54 | Link #1652 | |
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You completely misunderstood the flashbacks, because as Anh Minh stated, the manga (and the LN too) made it clear the ogre beat those adventurers on their own game. The warrior was demolished by a physical attack, while a mage was bested by spells.
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Also you've to explain how the series is a viable "variant of d&d" when: Spoiler for Mostly details skipped, found in the LN:
The author made sure the story looks like some kind of d&d campaign from the perspective of the gods and the readers. But the behaviour of the characters and certain setup wouldn't work at all in a regular d&d campaign, exactly because it isn't a game to begin with.
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HP: An acolyte was murdered. GS: But what about the goblins? HP: It all happened... GS: But what about the GOBLINS? or: HP explains everything GS stands up to leave Priestess: GS, where are you going?! GS: I don't care for what happened I'll go hunt goblins. Quote:
Technically he already did. They said poison, GS countered that by using gas :P
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When GS was asked not to use poison, HEA actually meant poison gas. GS and his party was supposed to be on another quest before going to water town, and he actually smoked goblins out with poison gas. That's the very reason why HEA started banning stuff left and right.
What GS used was a "pepper bomb". More accurately, it is pepper with crushed snake. And funnily enough, HEA never complained about that.
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As for the priestess sounds like has an exotic feat. Which is too say all that can be perfectly easily explained with D&D 3.5 (2003) or Pathfinder (2009) Rules. Last edited by Skaddix; 2018-11-13 at 02:11. |
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2018-11-13, 03:47 | Link #1659 | |
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high elf wants an adventure, so poison/flooding/fire that are extermination tactics doesn't fit well with her adventure ideals.
too bad the sewers and the bans limited his options, even preventing him from digdug a hole tp drop the goblins in. Quote:
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Even then, Hero Girl still is extremely unlikely because not only the number of firebolts is more than insane, but she naturally can wield a holy sword and plate armor. All of this when she merely started. Even the most leniant DM wouldn't ever do that, and the way how the "board" works is also impractical when 1) some characters are not controlled and don't have any saving throw 2) when several persons have to manage different parts of the board (there isn't 1 single god acting as the DM.) Quote:
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