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Lisemer · 2012-12-16, 01:47

Wait... As I can understand, SHIROU is a red master...
Maybe we'll see him in his mid-twenties after some of the routes?

sagdashin · 2012-12-16, 03:52

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Originally Posted by florza

Third from left (Danik): Black Lancer's Master. Catalyst not stated. Plundered the Holy Grail from the Third Holy Grail War of Fuyuki, is almost a century old despite looking in his 20s (At least he looks better than Zouken).

Wait... what? Well that explains why there's another grail war going on, but what did angra manyu corrupt then, or did he steal the corrupted grail? What the hell

florza · 2012-12-16, 07:28

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Originally Posted by sagdashin

Wait... what? Well that explains why there's another grail war going on, but what did angra manyu corrupt then, or did he steal the corrupted grail? What the hell

It just says he plundered it in the Third, and concealed it in Romania.

Nayim · 2012-12-16, 09:45

Cowles? For some reason, I think Crowles / Krowres / Kowles / Crowres is seem plausible for accurate Japanese romanization name. Just saying if this another misleading name since K is sound like C in Japanese to English and L is R since L are Japanese consonant context.

florza · 2012-12-16, 10:17

Sorry, this just struck me. They're probably Romanian; which makes it highly likely that Danik's lancer is Vlad, since Dracula originates from Transylvania, in central Romania.

Which would mean-

Black team: Siegfried, Astolfo, Atalanta, Frankenstein, Shakespeare, Jack the Ripper, Vlad.
Red team: Mordred, Saint George, David, Spartacus, Semiramis, Red Caster, Karna.

Also, names are a pain, leave it to the translator to rack his brains over.

chaos_alfa · 2012-12-16, 10:20

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Translation scan.

Here the confirmation:

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And bookmark.

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Nayim · 2012-12-16, 10:29

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Just what Ukulelembo said, first chapter the story is set sometime in Fate/Zero (Meaning this series is before Fate/Stay Night or before Fate/Zero or both), no evidence relation to F/SN but it seem how the connection tied into from Fate/Zero first.

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Every servants has new change design, like Jeanne's purple ribbon hair and Semiramis's design. Not sure if Jack was really "redesign" because redesign doesn't mean change everything, it could be Illustrator draw her in typical feel like "Takeuchi Takashi" character without feel this is kinda loli design.

ukulelembo · 2012-12-16, 11:13

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Originally Posted by chaos_alfa

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For now, nothing is certain. In first chapter was briefly mentioned fourth war. Suggesting that Apocrypha takes place sometime after Zero. But the first rumors from potential readers of Type-Moon Ace claims that Apocrypha is an alternate universe where the Grail was removed from Fuyuki City after the Third War. And thus fourth and fifth wars does not occur at all. This is however in contradicts with what suggested the first chapter. And it's all confusing. We will see later how it really is.

ivari · 2012-12-16, 12:01

Reika Rikudou and Jack's redesign implies that the chapter preview in TM Ace was scrapped and rewritten. This would resolve the inconcistency about the mention of fourth HGW. Also, apparently

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There are spoilers that black caster is suposed to be

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, and it fits since his master creates golems.

GDB · 2012-12-16, 12:13

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Also, apparently

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...Priest? WTF?

ukulelembo · 2012-12-16, 13:13

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Originally Posted by ivari

Reika Rikudou and Jack's redesign implies that the chapter preview in TM Ace was scrapped and rewritten. This would resolve the inconcistency about the mention of fourth HGW. Also, apparently

Spoiler:

There are spoilers that black caster is suposed to be

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, and it fits since his master creates golems.

All this is based only on not very clear report from Humatiny6. There's no certainty that this all is really true.
One of new scans also reminds of existence of the first chapter:

Also Reika is not redesigned, but just drawn by another artist and with different clothes. For comparison:

Jack's actual appearance, is not yet known at all.

For now we only know that Reika with Jack are on the black side. There's a master on the red side, which is called "Shirou", but written with different Japanese characters than original Shirou. Waver is not master and his presence is not confirmed.

Nayim · 2012-12-17, 04:57

Larger image, It seem all masters revealed in that scan.

EDIT: All characters full name (Not sure if accurate, according from what I read the romanization translation are almost 70% translation reading)

Black Camp:

Danic / Danik Preston Ygdramillena (Black Lancer)

Fiore Forvegy Ygdramillena (Black Archer)

Gordes Morgik/Murgik Ygdramillena (Black Saber)

Selenic/Selenik Icecol Ygdramillena (Black Rider)

Cowles / Crowres / Krowles / Crowles / Kowles Forvegy Ygdramillena (Black Berserker)

Rouche/Louche or Rosy/Rosie Flyn Ygdramillena (Black Caster)

Reika Rikudou (Black Assassin)

Red Camp:

Shishi (Red saber)

Shirou or Shiro (???)

Rotwell Belsensky (???)

Jean Ram (???)

Pentel Brother [Younger] (???)

Bentel Brother [Older] (???)

Findo Wom Senbellum (???)

That's surprise me: I wonder Sagara Hyouma (Assassin's original master) has connection with Ygdramillena? I mean 1 Japanese (Reika) in Black Camp only is seem out of place since all six Black Camp are Romanians. Although Sagara Hyouma is Japanese race too. I think Sagara was prostitute working in Romania?.

OR

Maybe the last Ygdramillena member is actually "Big Villain" in this series? Ya know, the reveal of Seventh Ygdramillena member. Just wild guess.

ukulelembo · 2012-12-18, 04:44

Translation of Master quotes:

Gordes: Saber, except for the moments when you are activating your Noble Phantasm, keep your mouth shut!
Fiore: So it has finally begun...
Danik: We of the Ygdramillenia will acquire all the mysteries and miracles of this world!
Selenik: You, are you perhaps a person with a vigorous sense of curiosity?
Cowles: Berserker, let's go too.
Roche/Rosie: Alright, teacher, the ritual is complete. Let's go back to our workshop!
Reika: Then, you can cut them a little. However, not in the throats because then they won't be able to scream anymore.
Mordred's Master: It's like my youth that was spent stepping over corpses.
Mordred: Hey, fucker. Call me a chick again and I can't restrain myself!
--Note: Mordred's manner of speech is very crude

florza · 2012-12-18, 05:30

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Originally Posted by ukulelembo

Mordred's Master: It's like my youth that was spent stepping over corpses.
Mordred: Hey, fucker. Call me a chick again and I can't restrain myself!
--Note: Mordred's manner of speech is very crude

Just FYI:

屍体と過ごした少年時代 means he spent his youth with cadavers. Nothing to do with stepping over them.

And Mordred's speech is just standard masculine, it's not very crude. Unless you meant crude for a woman, I guess.

ivari · 2012-12-19, 05:15

http://www.mediafire.com/?k8n1lhcfje...s9axn91h3m345p

TMAce 8 Edition Fate/Apocrypha Preview Camrips.

sagdashin · 2012-12-19, 07:34

There's a chance CommieSubs are going to translate Fate/apocrypha and/or Fire Girl. At least according to their newest recruitment post: http://commiesubs.com/winter-recruitment/

Hope they follow through and translates quickly, as I'm eager to read.

GDB · 2012-12-19, 08:21

Is Fire Girl a TypeMoon thing too, or are they just interested in doing it?

ivari · 2012-12-19, 12:26

http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread...=1#post1053715

First page translation, is this okay here?

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"La Pucelle carried within her kindness, humility,

honesty, naivete, and her faith.

Those were all she had."

―Words of a certain theologian

Rouen, Place du Vieux-Marche

......Insults were like the song of the distant, endless lands, and so they did not bother her. To say that she was not hurt would be a lie, but it was a pain she could bear with.

Horror, she did not quite feel. Chagrin and regret, those she had thrown away when she decided to take up the sword, and they never returned.

She did not like being dragged around, and so she walked straight forward. Unconsciously, she touched her breast, where the cross she had been relieved of used to be. With her pillar of the heart gone, she felt somewhat sorrowful. An Englishman who seemed to have thought of that, ran up to her and presented what seemed to be a makeshift wooden cross. Thank you, she said in gratitude, and he fell to his knees, tears running down his face. Though there were those who slung abuse, there were also those who were crying.

If insults were the song of the distant lands, then sorrow would be the lullaby a mother would sing.

Her hands were then tied behind her back, onto the tall wooden pole. The bindings were tightened with great force, so as to make sure they would never slacken, it seemed. There was no turning back now, she thought.

When the bishop finished with his recitation of the Last Judgement, the torches were thrown in all at once, and the flames began to lick at her feet, bit-by-bit. To those who believed that the erasure of the physical body was the greatest fear of all, this would be the harshest punishment.

The flames scorched skin, charred flesh, and burned bone. Over and over, they chanted the name of God and the Holy Mother.

―Your prayers are a lie.

Countless times she had been accused thus, countless times she had suffered abuse. Yet, she could never understand it. After all, there were no lies nor truth in prayer. Prayers were merely prayers, they did not change depending on whom or what you were praying to.

She wanted to tell them that, but no voice came to her throat. What had flashed before her eyes, was a scene from the past. She had been from a rustic village and an ordinary family, and she was a fool for throwing that all away.

Was she truly a fool? ...Indeed, she might have been one. After all, she knew that from the very beginning. She herself knew better than anyone else that this would be how it'd end.

―If she had looked away then, then she would never have met her end like this.

That's right. The sound of that voice stopped her ears. If she had abandoned the grief of the soldiers whom were likely lost, then she could have lived an ordinary life, have an ordinary marriage, and continued to live with her husband and children. That was the future she had, and she knew it.

However, she had thrown away that future for a different one.

She chose to take up the sword, to clad her body in armour, to bear a standard, and ride on horse-back to the front lines of war.

―She knew that this end would come, didn't she?

She knew. She surely knew. That as long as she continued to fight, someday, this day would come. Hence, it was inevitable that she was called a fool. But, the one thing she would not permit, was to mock herself as one.

"Even so, there were lives I saved. I was not wrong... to have chosen this path."

The scene from the past, the impossible future, and even the harsh reality, all of these were dispersed into nothingness before her prayers.

Merely prayers, merely sacrifices. Even if people told her she had been wrong, and insulted her, at the very least, she would not betray herself.

She regretted naught, and she had no longings, for the future down the road. All she wanted, was to lay in peace.

Despite being at the centre of such a brutal, gruesome scene―all that dwelled within her heart, was an honest, pure and selfless prayer, free of regret.

―Dear Lord, I give my body to thee―

Those were her last words. As her consciousness came to an end, she was released from her mortal coil.

Her dream will end, and reality would show itself. However, it had not yet ended. Indeed, the girl's dream had come to an end, but that of La Pucelle would start from then.

ukulelembo · 2012-12-19, 12:29

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Is Fire Girl a TypeMoon thing too, or are they just interested in doing it?

Yes, it's from Type-Moon.
http://www.typemoon.com/products/tmbooks/index.html
Fire Girl will be written by Meteo Hoshizora, who also wrote still unreleased Girls' Work anime.

shadow1296 · 2012-12-19, 20:18

i have some questions

1. are the sabers in this male or female

2. why is one team filled with the member of the some mage family, i thought only 1 representative from each mage family could participate?

3. is this shirou who's a master emiya shirou or not and if it is is his servent saber arturia?

4. why is jack the ripper london's most notoriuos serial killer and rapist a girl?

5. where's gil and ekidnu weren't they in this story?

6. when does this story take place?

2012-12-16, 09:45	Link #184
Nayim Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Malaysia	Cowles? For some reason, I think Crowles / Krowres / Kowles / Crowres is seem plausible for accurate Japanese romanization name. Just saying if this another misleading name since K is sound like C in Japanese to English and L is R since L are Japanese consonant context. __________________

2012-12-16, 12:01	Link #189
ivari Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Reika Rikudou and Jack's redesign implies that the chapter preview in TM Ace was scrapped and rewritten. This would resolve the inconcistency about the mention of fourth HGW. Also, apparently Spoiler: Adult Waver and 20something priest Shirou is appearing so it should happen after the fifth Fuyuki year-wise There are spoilers that black caster is suposed to be Spoiler: Solomon ibn Gabirol , and it fits since his master creates golems.

2012-12-17, 04:57	Link #192
Nayim Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Malaysia	Larger image, It seem all masters revealed in that scan. EDIT: All characters full name (Not sure if accurate, according from what I read the romanization translation are almost 70% translation reading) Black Camp: Danic / Danik Preston Ygdramillena (Black Lancer) Fiore Forvegy Ygdramillena (Black Archer) Gordes Morgik/Murgik Ygdramillena (Black Saber) Selenic/Selenik Icecol Ygdramillena (Black Rider) Cowles / Crowres / Krowles / Crowles / Kowles Forvegy Ygdramillena (Black Berserker) Rouche/Louche or Rosy/Rosie Flyn Ygdramillena (Black Caster) Reika Rikudou (Black Assassin) Red Camp: Shishi (Red saber) Shirou or Shiro (???) Rotwell Belsensky (???) Jean Ram (???) Pentel Brother [Younger] (???) Bentel Brother [Older] (???) Findo Wom Senbellum (???) That's surprise me: I wonder Sagara Hyouma (Assassin's original master) has connection with Ygdramillena? I mean 1 Japanese (Reika) in Black Camp only is seem out of place since all six Black Camp are Romanians. Although Sagara Hyouma is Japanese race too. I think Sagara was prostitute working in Romania?. OR Maybe the last Ygdramillena member is actually "Big Villain" in this series? Ya know, the reveal of Seventh Ygdramillena member. Just wild guess. __________________ Last edited by Nayim; 2012-12-17 at 08:05.

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2012-12-19, 20:18	Link #200
shadow1296 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012	i have some questions 1. are the sabers in this male or female 2. why is one team filled with the member of the some mage family, i thought only 1 representative from each mage family could participate? 3. is this shirou who's a master emiya shirou or not and if it is is his servent saber arturia? 4. why is jack the ripper london's most notoriuos serial killer and rapist a girl? 5. where's gil and ekidnu weren't they in this story? 6. when does this story take place? __________________

2012-12-16, 01:47	Link #181
Lisemer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009	Wait... As I can understand, SHIROU is a red master... Maybe we'll see him in his mid-twenties after some of the routes?

2012-12-16, 10:17	Link #185
florza 一日之计在于晨 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: A place where the seasons come to a standstill	Sorry, this just struck me. They're probably Romanian; which makes it highly likely that Danik's lancer is Vlad, since Dracula originates from Transylvania, in central Romania. Which would mean- Black team: Siegfried, Astolfo, Atalanta, Frankenstein, Shakespeare, Jack the Ripper, Vlad. Red team: Mordred, Saint George, David, Spartacus, Semiramis, Red Caster, Karna. Also, names are a pain, leave it to the translator to rack his brains over.

2012-12-18, 04:44	Link #193
ukulelembo Detective Join Date: Jul 2010	Translation of Master quotes: Gordes: Saber, except for the moments when you are activating your Noble Phantasm, keep your mouth shut! Fiore: So it has finally begun... Danik: We of the Ygdramillenia will acquire all the mysteries and miracles of this world! Selenik: You, are you perhaps a person with a vigorous sense of curiosity? Cowles: Berserker, let's go too. Roche/Rosie: Alright, teacher, the ritual is complete. Let's go back to our workshop! Reika: Then, you can cut them a little. However, not in the throats because then they won't be able to scream anymore. Mordred's Master: It's like my youth that was spent stepping over corpses. Mordred: Hey, fucker. Call me a chick again and I can't restrain myself! --Note: Mordred's manner of speech is very crude

2012-12-19, 07:34	Link #196
sagdashin Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	There's a chance CommieSubs are going to translate Fate/apocrypha and/or Fire Girl. At least according to their newest recruitment post: http://commiesubs.com/winter-recruitment/ Hope they follow through and translates quickly, as I'm eager to read.

2012-12-19, 08:21	Link #197
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Is Fire Girl a TypeMoon thing too, or are they just interested in doing it?