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~~Tsuyoshi~~ · 2009-09-15, 15:38

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Now we know why Pride manipulated Al and co into driving back into Central so Al would be caught in the transmutation. I think next chapter we'll see what the transmutation did to Hoenheim. The only way I can think of for Father to get a fifth sacrifice at this stage would be if Roy or Marco try to get Ed and Al back using human transmutation. Or of course, someone we don't know about.

Wrath's fight was rather impressive, with minor characters continuing to earn their keep, and a climbing kill count for Wrath, in a manga that rarely kills off anybody.

I hope this doesn't end before Kimberly and May Chang come back.

I think Kimbley is as dead as they come. Pride ate him if I remember right. And that was after he'd been bitten at the neck by a "Lion." Even if we assume that Pride's stomach is just like Gluttony's (considering Pride absorbed him before eating everyone) and Kimbley ended up in that space between the real world and the Truth, he would've died of severe bloodloss in that space. With no one to heal him in there, I doubt he lived beyond a few minutes after ending up in there.

Keyaki · 2009-09-15, 15:45

Anyone notice that Greed was actually crying in the last panel he is in? That kind of felt odd, I could see Ling crying not but Greed. Also, Ling can now take over whenever he wants? Since when did he learn to do that. The last time he had to ask Greed to switch out.

orangejuicetang · 2009-09-15, 16:16

Actually, surprisingly enough, I always found it interesting how Greed and Ling actually seemed to be on fairly good terms with each other. As for why Greed was crying, Greed values the lives of his subordinates quite highly. It could be a combination of Ling's grief at Fu's death and Greed's grief at losing another thing to Wrath, or the scene might remind Greed of when Wrath killed all his subordinates the first time. Remember when Greed first regained his memories, he pretty much broke down and snapped.

Vicious108 · 2009-09-15, 19:37

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I think Kimbley is as dead as they come. Pride ate him if I remember right. And that was after he'd been bitten at the neck by a "Lion." Even if we assume that Pride's stomach is just like Gluttony's (considering Pride absorbed him before eating everyone) and Kimbley ended up in that space between the real world and the Truth, he would've died of severe bloodloss in that space. With no one to heal him in there, I doubt he lived beyond a few minutes after ending up in there.

Pride said to Kimblee "You'll live on as part of me." so no, he ain't dead yet.

carcanclaw · 2009-09-15, 20:39

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Pride said to Kimblee "You'll live on as part of me." so no, he ain't dead yet.

I'm not really sure what happened to Kimbley. Unlike Gluttony, he didn't have a philosopher's stone (besides the tiny one he ate during Ishbal), so I don't know what Pride would gain from eating him.

Maybe he'll start using Kimbley's body instead of his current one?

orangejuicetang · 2009-09-15, 21:04

An "extra" life for when he gets killed? Remember, the souls that make up the philosopher's stone have been shown to be "alive" or at least self-conscious by Hoenheim

akire_and_atem · 2009-09-15, 21:11

I still haven't lost hope that Kimbley will be the last sacrifice...

~~Tsuyoshi~~ · 2009-09-16, 01:03

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Pride said to Kimblee "You'll live on as part of me." so no, he ain't dead yet.

A lot of times, when someone devours someone else and says that, that's usually the end of the character himself but its not neccessarily the last time we see that character's physical appearance. Kimbley himself is dead, but I'm not doubting we'll see him again, although it will probably be as carcanclaw said, and Pride will be using Kimbley's body in the future, or perhaps his powers.

Shiroth · 2009-09-16, 03:39

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A lot of times, when someone devours someone else and says that, that's usually the end of the character himself but its not neccessarily the last time we see that character's physical appearance.

Don't forget that this is FMA we're talking about, anything is possible here.

Just look at when Ed and Ling were eaten by Gluttony.

~~Tsuyoshi~~ · 2009-09-16, 04:25

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Don't forget that this is FMA we're talking about, anything is possible here.

Just look at when Ed and Ling were eaten by Gluttony.

I know what you mean. As I said before, if we assume that Pride's stomach is now like Gluttony's, Kimbley is all alone in that "pseudospace" if you will after receiving a deep bitewound from a "lion." I doubt anyone could live after receiving a wound like that.

Krazzy Angel · 2009-09-16, 05:02

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Originally Posted by orangejuicetang

An "extra" life for when he gets killed? Remember, the souls that make up the philosopher's stone have been shown to be "alive" or at least self-conscious by Hoenheim

I will rather go for this explanation. "a part of him" might be one additionnal soul. So Kimbley is practically part of Pride.

kingsky123 · 2009-09-16, 07:36

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Anyone notice that Greed was actually crying in the last panel he is in? That kind of felt odd, I could see Ling crying not but Greed. Also, Ling can now take over whenever he wants? Since when did he learn to do that. The last time he had to ask Greed to switch out.

nah it was ling crying i think. greed was just hardening the skin, they were fighting for control

GaimeGuy · 2009-09-16, 09:06

note that Bradley said "Greed?"

I think we're going to finally see Ling and greed working together

orangejuicetang · 2009-09-16, 09:18

I think it's going to be both of them working together. Remember, Ling has never been shown to be able to harden himself while he's in control of the body yet, so it's probably not just Ling.

Vicious108 · 2009-09-16, 09:44

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I know what you mean. As I said before, if we assume that Pride's stomach is now like Gluttony's, Kimbley is all alone in that "pseudospace" if you will after receiving a deep bitewound from a "lion." I doubt anyone could live after receiving a wound like that.

Pride could easily heal with him with his philosopher's stone regenerative power in order to make use of his abilities.

GaimeGuy · 2009-09-16, 10:30

Yep. GreedLing was crying, but also hardened. That, coupled with Bradley being somewhat puzzled as to who he was fighting (he said "greed?" as though he was asking confirmation that he was fighting greed, or that he wasn't certain... up till now, he's been able to tell when he's fighting ling and when he's fighting Greed, or even when he's not fighting them, but just watching them move.), seems to suggest they're both in control at the same time, now.

It does seem like Greed learned a few things about fighting from Ling for the few months or so they've been Greedling, but ling is still the better fighter. however, it looks like they're finally going to share the body at the same time, with greed handling the regeneration and ultimate shield, and Ling handling the actual maneuvering and combat.

Ran fan will certainly join the fight, and Bradley's speed is likely hampered by his injury (unless he also has regeneration, in which case I'd give up if I were fighting him LOL), so Bradley's end maybe approaching.

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~~Tsuyoshi~~ · 2009-09-16, 12:49

If Bradley had the same restorative abilities as the other homunculus, I doubt he would experience such a thing as old age. The fact is that apart from his eye, Bradley is the most human out of all the Homunculus. Even Ling and his bodyguards admit that he doesn't give off the same repulsive presence as his counterparts. Even to them, he appeared to be completely human. That being said, I doubt he would heal from that injury any faster than a normal human would.

Endless Twilight: Perhaps Pride could heal him inside his stomach using his portion of the stone, but wouldn't there be a risk that Kimbley would use the stone to try getting out of him like Ed and Ling did? Not to mention I think Kimbley still had his own stone with him. I like the idea that Kimbley added an extra life to Pride better tbh.

Kirarakim · 2009-09-16, 13:01

Well I am pretty sure Bradley's stone only has one soul in it. That is why Ling & Ran Fan could not sense him like the other homunculus. So yeah I don't think he will be able to regenerate. But I don't think it's been made completely clear either way. I guess we will find out next chapter.

Ghostfriendly · 2009-09-16, 13:56

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Endless Twilight: Perhaps Pride could heal him inside his stomach using his portion of the stone, but wouldn't there be a risk that Kimbley would use the stone to try getting out of him like Ed and Ling did? Not to mention I think Kimbley still had his own stone with him. I like the idea that Kimbley added an extra life to Pride better tbh.

To heal somebody with his Philosopher's Stone, Pride would have to use alchemy, which, as a Homunculus, he can't do, beyond healing himself.

Vicious108 · 2009-09-16, 14:10

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To heal somebody with his Philosopher's Stone, Pride would have to use alchemy, which, as a Homunculus, he can't do, beyond healing himself.

That was something stated only in the first anime series. The manga never said anything about the homunculi being unable to use alchemy.

And as for Wrath, I think it's been made pretty obvious that he can't regenerate. Only one soul left in him, the only homunculus that ages and the fact that when Buccanear stabbed him it was such a big and impactful page and panels. Yeah, pretty sure that's permanent damage for him. Though it doesn't necessarily mean he's done for just yet.

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orangejuicetang Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 32	Actually, surprisingly enough, I always found it interesting how Greed and Ling actually seemed to be on fairly good terms with each other. As for why Greed was crying, Greed values the lives of his subordinates quite highly. It could be a combination of Ling's grief at Fu's death and Greed's grief at losing another thing to Wrath, or the scene might remind Greed of when Wrath killed all his subordinates the first time. Remember when Greed first regained his memories, he pretty much broke down and snapped. __________________ WORDS IN THE HEART CANNOT BE TAKEN If a corrupt court will not behead an evil king, than the watchman should do it himself.

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orangejuicetang Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 32	An "extra" life for when he gets killed? Remember, the souls that make up the philosopher's stone have been shown to be "alive" or at least self-conscious by Hoenheim __________________ WORDS IN THE HEART CANNOT BE TAKEN If a corrupt court will not behead an evil king, than the watchman should do it himself.

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orangejuicetang Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 32	I think it's going to be both of them working together. Remember, Ling has never been shown to be able to harden himself while he's in control of the body yet, so it's probably not just Ling. __________________ WORDS IN THE HEART CANNOT BE TAKEN If a corrupt court will not behead an evil king, than the watchman should do it himself.

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Keyaki Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Age: 31	Anyone notice that Greed was actually crying in the last panel he is in? That kind of felt odd, I could see Ling crying not but Greed. Also, Ling can now take over whenever he wants? Since when did he learn to do that. The last time he had to ask Greed to switch out.

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akire_and_atem Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mexico Age: 35	I still haven't lost hope that Kimbley will be the last sacrifice...

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GaimeGuy Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	note that Bradley said "Greed?" I think we're going to finally see Ling and greed working together

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GaimeGuy Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	Yep. GreedLing was crying, but also hardened. That, coupled with Bradley being somewhat puzzled as to who he was fighting (he said "greed?" as though he was asking confirmation that he was fighting greed, or that he wasn't certain... up till now, he's been able to tell when he's fighting ling and when he's fighting Greed, or even when he's not fighting them, but just watching them move.), seems to suggest they're both in control at the same time, now. It does seem like Greed learned a few things about fighting from Ling for the few months or so they've been Greedling, but ling is still the better fighter. however, it looks like they're finally going to share the body at the same time, with greed handling the regeneration and ultimate shield, and Ling handling the actual maneuvering and combat. Ran fan will certainly join the fight, and Bradley's speed is likely hampered by his injury (unless he also has regeneration, in which case I'd give up if I were fighting him LOL), so Bradley's end maybe approaching. ...

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~~Tsuyoshi~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Great Justice	If Bradley had the same restorative abilities as the other homunculus, I doubt he would experience such a thing as old age. The fact is that apart from his eye, Bradley is the most human out of all the Homunculus. Even Ling and his bodyguards admit that he doesn't give off the same repulsive presence as his counterparts. Even to them, he appeared to be completely human. That being said, I doubt he would heal from that injury any faster than a normal human would. Endless Twilight: Perhaps Pride could heal him inside his stomach using his portion of the stone, but wouldn't there be a risk that Kimbley would use the stone to try getting out of him like Ed and Ling did? Not to mention I think Kimbley still had his own stone with him. I like the idea that Kimbley added an extra life to Pride better tbh.

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Kirarakim Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Well I am pretty sure Bradley's stone only has one soul in it. That is why Ling & Ran Fan could not sense him like the other homunculus. So yeah I don't think he will be able to regenerate. But I don't think it's been made completely clear either way. I guess we will find out next chapter.