Danganronpa 3: Future Arc - Episode 2 Discussion / Poll

[Klashikari]

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[Jestersage]

Spoiler for Damnit Kodaka:

Rest in Peace, Asahina-san.

Well, The only thing that I would predict is that Naegi and Munakata will last till the last episode. Everyone is fair game.

[larethian]

Will it be too much to wish for Kyouko to come out of this alive? I suppose she will remain fine until she links up and acts together with Makoto.

My bet on Kyousuke's forbidden action to be "can't open doors".

[SweetRain]

I don't trust Munakata at all, but at the same time I don't think he's involved, I feel that would be too easy, and Kodaka always throws thing at us at the last minute. I don't know, there are a lot of weird things going on. It seems Kirigiri is suspicious about something regarding the place they are. Now onto the killing game, welp, I didn't expect that twist about them having a certain action they cannot perform, Naegi's one was hilarious if anything because he had to be carried not only once but twice lol.

Also, why the change in the opening visuals? The ending seems the same, even though I'm sure Kodaka said to keep an eye on it... hmmm

[SilverSyko]

Well it's nice to know the rules of the "game" that Monokuma has put underway. So there's a traitor among all of them that will kill one person every time they're put to sleep and the goal is weed that person out of the group before they all die. Then there's the twist that they'll recieve a condition that they must avoid doing if they don't want to end up getting killed either and Daisaku ended up dying to just to show that wasn't a bluff.

Aoi ends up getting killed by the traitor at the end of the episode too. It's pretty depressing to see a survivor of the first game getting killed off now but I guess it was always a possibility.

I was wondering how Monomi would be implemented into this story and I guess she's just a means for Miaya to communicate with the others since she's too shy to talk herself. That's cute I guess. I like how she, Gozu and Makoto all have their little group but now that Aoi's dead things might go awry.

On last thing, Sonosuke and Ruruka seem to be very intimate with each other almost all of the time. I wonder if they're a couple?

[Nvis]

Who else thinks this is all Virtual, again?

I can't see the need to sleep-gas them in the same room besides the 1st killing.

I also have a "sick" feeling that someone will chop off their arm to remove the bangles

[Klashikari]

Suspected some surprise right from the get go, but this was a bit too much I guess.
That being said, I'm a bit bothered by the pacing/presentation being a bit on the slow side, but I guess it is better than padding with endless dialogues and whatnot.

That being said, this episode made me worry about the overall setting for the future arc

Spoiler for Speculations:

I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like we might get yet another virtual reality considering the following point:
Kyouko noticed that the door is perfectly fine, not even a scratch. As a reminder, Ruruka made Sonosuke throwing a kunai at Aoi when the latter was protesting the FF accusations towards Makoto back in ep1. There was blatant mark on the door, so having the door perfectly pristine is quite fishy.

Of course, this could be another location, but it is sort of weird for Monokuma/Junko to bother moving people out.

As for Kyouko, I suspect that her NG action is either:
-Talking to men
-Expressing her speculations and deductions.
she never raised an objection against Juuzo after they woke up, even though she was firmly against Kyosuke and Juuzo accusations before they were put to sleep. Hell, she didn't raise an objection when Kyosuke asked people to vote.
Meanwhile, she didn't call out Makoto when they had to run away.

It is interesting to note that there was a close up on Aoi's bracelet when Juuzo approached her, so maybe she was unallowed to resort to violence or something.

[ninjastarforcex]

bracelet? timer? sleep drugs? poison? we Zero Time Dilemma now!

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Nvis

Who else thinks this is all Virtual, again?

I can't see the need to sleep-gas them in the same room besides the 1st killing.

I also have a "sick" feeling that someone will chop off their arm to remove the bangles

Originally Posted by Klashikari

Suspected some surprise right from the get go, but this was a bit too much I guess.
That being said, I'm a bit bothered by the pacing/presentation being a bit on the slow side, but I guess it is better than padding with endless dialogues and whatnot.

That being said, this episode made me worry about the overall setting for the future arc

Spoiler for Speculations:

I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like we might get yet another virtual reality considering the following point:
Kyouko noticed that the door is perfectly fine, not even a scratch. As a reminder, Ruruka made Sonosuke throwing a kunai at Aoi when the latter was protesting the FF accusations towards Makoto back in ep1. There was blatant mark on the door, so having the door perfectly pristine is quite fishy.

Of course, this could be another location, but it is sort of weird for Monokuma/Junko to bother moving people out.

As for Kyouko, I suspect that her NG action is either:
-Talk to men
-Expressing her speculations and deductions.

It is interesting to note that there was a close up on Aoi's bracelet when Juuzo approached her, so maybe she was unallowed to resort to violence or something.

I really hope you guys are right.
Because I don't really want to see Aoi dead
Moreover it would go hand in hand with Despair where Yokizone just sits there saying 'Aww I died'.



that being said I wouldn't be surprised if your theory about forbidden actions is right, especially with all the violent characters apparently being allowed to participate in violence

The most interesting part about all of it is btw that Monokuma didn't know Monomi and that both of them seem to have the same voice which brings me to believe that

Spoiler for Speculation & Some other things:

That the hacker might be at least somehow involved.
Please note how I didn't say she is the mastermind or the killer, since this entire setup SCREAMS for more than one traitor.

It should also be noted that the damage to the building is everything but marginal. In fact it appears as if the building got more damaged in the time they were sleeping first then during the attack, again pointing to a VR.

On the other hand it could also mean that it is a similar setup to DR1 and in truth several years have passed without the building being tended to. No matter which one is true - the building wasn't even half as damaged when they slept in so something must have happened.

Another notable observation is that all the dead guards had their necks snapped pointing to someone with higher than average physical strength.

The Killer also seems to have a high tendency of trying to frame Naegi, so they most definitely WANT him to get executed by the true hopes.

What I am already certain about though is that someone who died/has yet to die is going to re-appear (and I dodn't mean via VR).

[HandofFate]

nooo Asahina.

she was spitting death flags like crazy during the last 5minutes though, was like argh...

The forbidden action is the most interesting part for me.
I'm not very deep into the whole dangan lore, and actually think the despair world stuff is dumb and only tolerable because it was a videogame and the murder case gameplay was the focus.

So finding out the forbidden actions thing is what's keeping me watching heh

[Dengar]

Oh my.... This very uncomfortable feeling of dread. I don't think I've ever felt it while watching any other anime. This is way more brutal than the games. D:

Asahina, I... was kind of afraid of this. If the writer was going to stress that not even the returning characters are safe, one of them would have to be one of the first to die. ;_;


Also, that student president, am I the only one who thinks his forbidden action is to open doors?

Also, not buying into the VR theory. First of all, we've already done that plot twist. Second, the game actually threw in some visual cues regularly that gave it away (but were mostly meaningless for people not in the know).

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Dengar

Oh my.... This very uncomfortable feeling of dread. I don't think I've ever felt it while watching any other anime. This is way more brutal than the games. D:

Asahina, I... was kind of afraid of this. If the writer was going to stress that not even the returning characters are safe, one of them would have to be one of the first to die. ;_;


Also, that student president, am I the only one who thinks his forbidden action is to open doors?

Also, not buying into the VR theory. First of all, we've already done that plot twist. Second, the game actually threw in some visual cues regularly that gave it away (but were mostly meaningless for people not in the know).

It has to be something like that though, since the damage done to the building has increased significantly between the time they were put to sleep and the time they re-awkoke.

Notably both the VR and Years actually passed plotlines were already done (DR2 and DR1) - Going by the previously mentioned state of the building either of it has to be true though.

[gecd]

Kodaka is Enoshime Junko herself
when this anime finished airing
all of us will be infected with despair

[Dengar]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

It has to be something like that though, since the damage done to the building has increased significantly between the time they were put to sleep and the time they re-awkoke.

Notably both the VR and Years actually passed plotlines were already done (DR2 and DR1) - Going by the previously mentioned state of the building either of it has to be true though.

There's dozens of possible of explanations for that. There is no reason for it to be VR.

Not to mention that the purpose of the VR show was to deprogram the remnants of despair. There is no reason for this to happen here. And again, there were visual cues that hinted at it being VR.

[nfsac]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

Suspected some surprise right from the get go, but this was a bit too much I guess.
That being said, I'm a bit bothered by the pacing/presentation being a bit on the slow side, but I guess it is better than padding with endless dialogues and whatnot.

That being said, this episode made me worry about the overall setting for the future arc

Spoiler for Speculations:

I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like we might get yet another virtual reality considering the following point:
Kyouko noticed that the door is perfectly fine, not even a scratch. As a reminder, Ruruka made Sonosuke throwing a kunai at Aoi when the latter was protesting the FF accusations towards Makoto back in ep1. There was blatant mark on the door, so having the door perfectly pristine is quite fishy.

Of course, this could be another location, but it is sort of weird for Monokuma/Junko to bother moving people out.

As for Kyouko, I suspect that her NG action is either:
-Talking to men
-Expressing her speculations and deductions.
she never raised an objection against Juuzo after they woke up, even though she was firmly against Kyosuke and Juuzo accusations before they were put to sleep. Hell, she didn't raise an objection when Kyosuke asked people to vote.
Meanwhile, she didn't call out Makoto when they had to run away.

It is interesting to note that there was a close up on Aoi's bracelet when Juuzo approached her, so maybe she was unallowed to resort to violence or something.

I am a little confused so, could you tell whe about this virtual reality setting? It happened on danganronpa 2 game? I only watched 1st anime and came to this series.

I think only Naegi and Kirigiri are safe till the end.

I liked the new setting, but it makes totally harsh since the killer only needs to make the murder a cover, since all get defenseless unless they can barricate themselves.

Where is our friend vident? He saw the choppers comming but seems he get locked outside the building

[Klashikari]

Since you are watching and discussing about DR3 despite the multiple warnings, I will consider that you don't care about DR2 plotline. Still, just don't open the tags if you want to check DR2 game after all.

Spoiler:

DR2 setting is actually a virtual reality environment created by the New World Program mentioned in this episode. That program was used in DR2 to create an environment for the Remnants of Despair as a rehab attempt (reverting back to their older self prior their fall to despair).

Junko created an AI similar to Alter Ego during the events of DR1 as a backup/prepared plan, and that Junko AI was uploaded in that program, leading to another killing game during DR2.

I don't expect it to be reallY VR as Kodaka's team usually avoid using the same trick twice, but it has to be noted that the building where they currently are might not be the same as the one they were before being put to sleep.

I'm also a bit annoyed it isn't a game after all considering the structure isn't far from DR1 and DR2, especially for the fact there isn't any detail for Chisa's death (was it cutter like the OP suggests?).
I'm still puzzled about the color for blood even though the opening and Despair arc feature the usual pink color, but since even Junko's execution featured bright red in the flashbacks, it might be a deliberate choice for the more serious tone (although DR1 and DR2 were no jokes for the participants either).

[Dengar]

Originally Posted by nfsac

I liked the new setting, but it makes totally harsh since the killer only needs to make the murder a cover, since all get defenseless unless they can barricate themselves.

It's basically a very sadistic real life version of Mafia. Where a group of players contains a number of "mafiosi" who 'kill' one of the other players during the night, and the players vote to lynch one of their own during the day, hoping they get a mafioso.

Originally Posted by nfsac

I am a little confused so, could you tell whe about this virtual reality setting? It happened on danganronpa 2 game? I only watched 1st anime and came to this series.

Spoiler for Long Story Short:

In the second game, a number of the "terrorists" who used be Hope's Peak students were captured by Naegi and the others, and put into a sort of "VR" space in an effort to deprogram them. However, an AI monokuma invaded that VR space and made them play another killing game.

[nfsac]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

Since you are watching and discussing about DR3 despite the multiple warnings, I will consider that you don't care about DR2 plotline. Still, just don't open the tags if you want to check DR2 game after all.

Spoiler:

DR2 setting is actually a virtual reality environment created by the New World Program mentioned in this episode. That program was used in DR2 to create an environment for the Remnants of Despair as a rehab attempt (reverting back to their older self prior their fall to despair).

Junko created an AI similar to Alter Ego during the events of DR1 as a backup/prepared plan, and that Junko AI was uploaded in that program, leading to another killing game during DR2.

I don't expect it to be reallY VR as Kodaka's team usually avoid using the same trick twice, but it has to be noted that the building where they currently are might not be the same as the one they were before being put to sleep.

I'm also a bit annoyed it isn't a game after all considering the structure isn't far from DR1 and DR2, especially for the fact there isn't any detail for Chisa's death (was it cutter like the OP suggests?).
I'm still puzzled about the color for blood even though the opening and Despair arc feature the usual pink color, but since even Junko's execution featured bright red in the flashbacks, it might be a deliberate choice for the more serious tone (although DR1 and DR2 were no jokes for the participants either).

So the death game of DR2 only happened in Virtual reality, meaning nobody really died?

Also it could be anything, I think Hagure missing could be a key point to show us if they are really in the same building or not.

[Dengar]

Sadly, that is not the case. The participants who died had their personalities erased. While their bodies still live, they are pretty much vegetables now. To be fair, the survivors pulled off some impossible stuff in there, and are hoping that they might one day wake up, but there is no way to tell if they ever will.

[nfsac]

Ouch.


Back to episode 2 of this new series, We have only one killer that will continue killing util he/she is found out? So no trials nor multiple vilains?