2009-08-11, 11:21 | Link #1825 | |
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I find it difficult pairing Ranka up with Burera since it basically implies that her perfect guy is actually just another Alto who- instead of chasing after some other girl says yes to her every whim and need. That's just yet another invitation to stunt her character >_> |
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2009-08-11, 11:29 | Link #1826 |
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if Brera and Ranka are unrelated, then how can we understand Ranka's past history?? Turn Brera into Ranka's friend from her childhood??
Nah, we need someone who can connect to Ranka's past history...Brera being Ranka's big bro is the ideal way to achieve that purpose
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2009-08-11, 11:56 | Link #1828 | |
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Just Turn Brother to "Brother" in the childhood friend sense
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2009-08-11, 12:17 | Link #1829 | |
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(Hello AirGear) Besides, the series sort of ended up feeling rather crowded by the end since she had Ozma as her adopting brother, Alto as a love interest who ACTS like a brother, and finally Brera who pops out and turns out to be her genetic brother. To remove one brother figure wouldn't be too much of a disaster if it didn't mean justifying Ranka's complete lack of character development >_>; My dislike of Ranka has always been her total lack of awareness when it came to people important to her, and total incapability of doing things that aren't simply for the benefit of her own self interests. I don't think as a character she intends to be selfish, but her actions have always been and continued to be self absorbed to the very end >_>; By placing Brera the "Yes everything you do is good and should be done" character as her final love interest just leaves her stuck in that depressing pithole. We need a love interest that SHE needs to be proactive about, something she wasn't capable of doing with Alto >_> otherwise she's just going to remain a reliant character who always needs to find someone who worships her from head to toe and lets her do whatever hell she wants to do regardless of morals and consequences. She also needs to be put into situations where her unreasonable whims aren't always justified by her being right at the end of the day, like the time she argued with Ozma over her singing career which...honestly Ozma had every right to oppose at the time, but whose parenting was thwarted by Ranka's brilliant stroke of luck caused by her singing in a mall where bystanders decided to provide her with professional sounding acoustics, and allowing some scouting agent to so conveniently pass by. Or that other time when she decided to drag her friends into a war zone to sing at an angry army mob solely for the purpose of looking good to Alto, which of course landed with her NOT being pummelled to death, which should have been the more probable result when a midget girl lands in the middle of a giant fight (lol pun) singing and acting cutesy. Or that infamous "GOODBYE ALTO YOU HEARTLESS BASTARD, I'M LEAVING WITH BRERA TO SAVE MY ALIEN WHOSE KIND ONLY MOMENTS BEFORE SKEWERED YOUR BEST FRIEND TO DEATH!!!!" moment where everyone became dunces because, SURPRISE! despite all the meaningless slaughtering the Vajiras were good! Joke's on you Alto! *breathe* Point is, she shouldn't be further placed in and paired with characters and situations where she's inevitably just going to do whatever hell she wants while being rewarded for doing so. If Brera was a character that had some sort of self-control I wouldn't have minded, but the fact is his mindset is disturbingly like Ranka's =____________= *whacks slutbot* He lives in a bubble, and kind of wants Ranka to do the same, and it's just bad since the root of a lot of Ranka's character flaws is her inability to empathize >___>; |
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2009-08-11, 13:31 | Link #1830 | |
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Besides, we need love triangle at macross..it's a tradition And I probably won't reply to your analysis about Ranka in your post lol..but I will let you know that I don't agree with your viewpoints at all (I probably have replied those viewpoints in my old posts already XD)
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2009-08-11, 16:03 | Link #1832 | |
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Anyway, I like her character not in spite of her flaws but because of them. Does she go off half-cocked with a crazy plan only needing to be rescued? Yep, but a lot of teenagers likely would. Since I'm wayyy to old to have crushes on teenage girls (even animated ones) I like Ranka because she'd be a fun little sister. |
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Nah I won't be doing that. I don't hate Sheryl, I don't even dislike her. I like most of the characters on the show actually. Just some more than others. And even then only slightly. I felt most of the main characters were less than idea at one point or another. Except for Klan
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2009-08-12, 02:01 | Link #1838 |
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@magnus: Er no.
Her numbaa wan priority was to wish him happy birthday. I'm not saying this to make her sound negative, but rather in macross world, something so ridiculous for some reason is considered natural (to still be thinking about someone's birthday when the planet is going kaput) Once there she didn't even visit Sheryl, or at least the director never thought it important for her to seemingly do so, so to believe Sheryl had anything to do with it is kinda laughable. @Kylegoblue: I don't disagree with you. But the fact is, every single time she's been rewarded for her "go[ing] off half-cocked with a crazy plan". In fact many of the time, she really ends up needing to be rescued when she's NOT committing some ridiculous plan that has no logical basis. The only time she did get into big doodoo over doing something retarded was the finale >_> and even then being caught wasn't exactly something "bad" seeing as it lead way to all her memories, gave her vajira STD moving powers, Alto came as a knight on a white VF, and she got to sing to the whole universe, while everyone patted her head and go "Who's the good girl? You are." Teenagers are meant to do retarded things. Anime/cartoons may or may not make them exceedingly lucky about it, but at the same time events are meant to be followed by consequences, even if it's some halfassed "I scold you in a way that makes you not fear me and do it again". Ranka is met with...absolutely no consequences. Ever. |
2009-08-12, 02:41 | Link #1839 | |
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Do you honestly think Ozma would have let her go to Gallia IV if her explanation would have been that she wanted to bring Alto his birthday present? Really? Iīm with you on the point that she never showed any concern for Sheryl in the whole deal, but trivializing her reason to go into "she only wanted to bring him his birthday present" is really a bit much. You canīt take things like this too literal. Yeah, that is one of the things that bugs me about her, as well. She is a very mild case of a Karma Houdini, although she doesnīt notice that her actions are so self-centered. But it bugs the hell out of me that she never got called on that, besides once very early in the series, by Michael. It is that lack of introspection which ultimately makes her into a flawed character. Maybe it would be easier to give her a pass if the two other mains wouldnīt have been visibly able to recognize the flaws in themselves. But seeing how Sheryl and Alto did grapple with their flaws and superated them, it is a bit galling that Ranka overcoming her timidity is the whole extent of character development we got for her. At least one moment of her admitting to herself that her actions brought a lot of pain ( and death ) to others would have done a world of good.
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