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10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 113 | 61.08% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 44 | 23.78% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 13 | 7.03% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 7 | 3.78% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 4 | 2.16% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 1 | 0.54% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.54% | |
1 out of 10: Torturous... | 2 | 1.08% | |
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2012-09-07, 16:38 | Link #661 | |
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2012-09-07, 16:46 | Link #663 | |
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Yeah, it's better of "making a stand in what she believe" and not literally fight him. Fighting between two high ranking leaders will either bring division if not confusion in the guild... aside form dropping the morale of the guild. Asuna would not do that for she loves her guild. She tries to stop Kirito hoping Heathcliff will change his mind if "she makes a stand." |
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2012-09-07, 17:23 | Link #664 |
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Kirito and Heathcliff were arguing over Asuna, but the duel isn't really about her, but rather about Kirito. Win or lose so will they still be together and Asuna will still be in the guild. All the duel decides is if she will take a short break from the guild duties or if Kirito will have to join it.
As for trusting a maverick like Kirito in a serious battle, so does he already fight with them during the floor Boss fights. The only change is that he will now do so while wearing their guild tag. |
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2012-09-07, 18:09 | Link #666 | |
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What I meant was, if she was being used as a " trophy " Heathcliff would've just said : " If I win, she stays with us, if I lose, she goes with you ". This wasn't the case, he obviously wants Kirito in the guild, he doesn't really care much if she goes or not on " vacations " for a few days/weeks, plus, he knows she doesn't want to leave. ( Because, wether Kirito wins or is defeated, he stays with Asuna ) Once again, I'm sorry if you felt like I was trying to force my opinion into you, I wasn't trying to. TL;DR - I am only saying that maybe " using her as a trophy " isn't the best word to describe it, since he was only " playing " with Kirito's " mind " to get him into the duel. Last edited by Karakuri; 2012-09-07 at 18:45. |
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2012-09-07, 19:41 | Link #667 | |
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My issue I guess is not to do with Kirito, but with Asuna or the treatment of Heathcliff guildies in general. Asuna is from what we gather is very important to the guild, so what is the issue with taking some time off? Working for years without leave must be horrendous on the individuals even if it is self motivated. Now the guild master takes the request for leave and turns it into her actually being taken away by one of the people she has known for longest periods of time and whom from what we see has feelings for... Asuna quite rightly went off to get Kirito so they could deal with it together (even though it seems that Kirito has taken the bait), but she could have easily taken it as a him or guild choice. If she was the type who decides that they must deal with the situation herself and protect both Kirito and the guild I think the situation would have gotten really dark for her.
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2012-09-07, 20:17 | Link #668 | |
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But she is still a " child " compared to the leader. She probably thinks it'll be disrespectful to go agaisn't the leader's words. But even then, she only wants to spend time with Kirito, which means she'll be fine inside the guild, as long as Kirito is in there, with her. And as someone said in this thread, she probably already said all she could say, but she just couldn't " win the word fight " if you can say so. Well, either way, Asuna is probably fine with any of those results. The only thing that she might not like, is the fact Kirito is being " forced ", though I don't think so. It seems he enjoys duels. You know he said he is better with swords rather than words. Probably he wanted this fight. As Kirito said, they met each other a few times, probably he saw Heathcliff as a great player, and wanted to know how strong he was. I guess what I said about " playing with Kirito's mind " would be off, since I just realised ( I feel kinda stupid now lol ) that Kirito probably wanted this fight. Well, either way it's fine I guess, they probably don't mind it. But yeah, I know what you mean now. I guess most people are " annoyed ", if you can say so, about the fact they're making her a " damsel ", but I'm used to see this kind of things in anime/manga, so I don't really give much of a thought to it. I actually think it's kind of cute though, I mean, a girl showing her weaknesses to only one person . Even if they're making her a " damsel ", I find it pretty awesome the fact that, they actually put a girl in the Front Lines, which is actually the vice-comander, and to top that, she's probably one of the 3 best players in-game. Well, maybe they will change her " damsel " acts as the show goes on, so let's just sit and enjoy, and maybe if that time comes, someone will want to buy drinks to everyone in here. Lol ^^ [mod edit: removed information not revealed in the anime] Damn, Reki Kawahara, I wish I was japanese and had played MMOs with you, the way you wrote things, you look like you're a great gamer, atleast in my opinion '-' Last edited by relentlessflame; 2012-09-07 at 21:08. Reason: removed novel info |
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2012-09-07, 20:39 | Link #669 | |
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Unless you mean her psychology as a girl being able to handle the front lines??
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2012-09-07, 20:45 | Link #670 | |
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I don't know about your game, but it seems interesting. Makes it a lot easier to have someone as a supporter on a team, lol. I mostly soloed, so I don't know if it's easy or not to find supporters to create a party, though, never really cared about it as long as I could handle things by myself. Edit: Oh yeah, not to mention, she's a one handed sword wielder. Last edited by Karakuri; 2012-09-07 at 20:56. |
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2012-09-07, 21:10 | Link #671 | |
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2012-09-07, 21:22 | Link #673 | |
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Edit: Do you remember where you found those statistics? I would like to see a few more things in there, if possible ^^, well, if not, no problem, I'll just try to find it. |
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2012-09-07, 21:27 | Link #674 | |
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Edit: I think it was specifically something about the reaction to seeing blood, although I don't remember the details. |
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2012-09-07, 21:34 | Link #675 |
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In regards to how sexes handle life threatening situations I think it is a very difficult one to deal with. Rather I would just super generalise and lump everyone be it boy or girl as a hostage with their lives on the line. Everyone handles things in different ways, some people head into danger head on (front liners), others back these people (merch and crafters), whilst I guess others could still in the first town in denial.
Training helps so Kirito's kendo probably has given him a edge at the beginning, anyone who has had first aid responsibilities, military/police training would imho deal with adverse situations better then the average Joe. _but_ also that can backfire as trained people tend to rely on backup and resources that their organisation gives, well unless they are some uber elite special forces type!
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2012-09-07, 22:04 | Link #676 | |
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Anyway, back to the episode discussion, I laughed when Klein spoke with Kirito at the end. " Just consider hardship as a part of training and keep working hard, kiddo. " And his face while he said that...Priceless!!! I hope I wasn't the only one...lol |
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2012-09-08, 05:35 | Link #677 | |
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2012-09-08, 06:20 | Link #678 | |
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2012-09-08, 07:27 | Link #679 | |
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I have to admit that so far the front liners they have briefly shown do seem to be made up of men, but we haven't seen that much of them. Also who is to say what sex they are if they are wearing full plate? Unlike lots of games SAO armour doesn't follow the anime convention of the skimpier the more powerful
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