Kannagi Generic discussion thread

[teelotes]

Originally Posted by Vexx

Agree with you on the OP and ED .... the OP, while quite poppish fun and great animation doesn't have much depth to it. When I rate it against the Toradora! OP theme, it doesn't fare as well.

The ED tune of Kannagi, on the other hand gives a wonderful sense of the "divine". The composer evokes Shinto ritual music themes in the first part of the piece.... though she sings a hell of a lot better than most of the Shinto chants I've gotten to hear

I'm hoping the ED gets a "not so abrupt" ending in the OST.

(just in case someone reading thinks "spamming the thread" *is* a good idea for getting a subforum .... the mods look at a number of factors, including how many different people are contributing usefully to the thread. Pure numbers won't do it.)

Does posting more fan-made stuff, like avatars and signatures, help? I would love to see a sub-forum too, but we certainly need more content for discussion.

[Solafighter]

Originally Posted by teelotes

Does posting more fan-made stuff, like avatars and signatures, help? I would love to see a sub-forum too, but we certainly need more content for discussion.

Mh not sure. A subforum on "Current Series" would be nice but i think, this theard has not enough post/day, i think.

But would be great.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by Vexx

Agree with you on the OP and ED .... the OP, while quite poppish fun and great animation doesn't have much depth to it. When I rate it against the Toradora! OP theme, it doesn't fare as well....

I was going to start this post: "Are you kidding?" But that's not fair. I just took a look at both OPs again, and they're both good. But the singing here is better, and the song is at least as good, in its way. The animation is of course twice as good, as animation. And both animations give us a nice bit of intro to the characters. That part is a tie. It doesn't matter at all to me that more of this one is just lifted from the show.

Of course, all that is just my own reaction and my opinion. You are perfectly free to help improve my taste my disagreeing. For one thing, I don't actually understand what you mean by "doesn't have much depth to it."

As for getting its own forum, I wouldn't count this show out just yet. Its popularity seems to be growing, both in Japan and overseas. I personally find separate forums rather inconvenient, however. The only advantage for me is not having to spoiler posts in threads for individual episodes.

[teelotes]

I guess the "not having much depth part" could tie in to the fact that the OP currently has no link to the events happening in the episodes, and thus seems detached.

From another perspective though, the OP can be seen as an episode itself, documentating Nagi's path to stardom. I've not read the manga yet, so I'm not sure if this will actually be the focus of later episodes.


By the way, does anyone know what's the relationship between the OP and an old song posted on nicovideo? I can't read Japanese, so maybe someone can help to clarify? The link to the video is here: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4910696

[Vexx]

I guess it sounded like I was dissing the OP. I'm not really .... its a happy pop song with a nice tune and the VA sings it quite well (especially the chorus). "not much depth" just means it doesn't contain deep thinking lyrics. That isn't a bad thing: some of the best poprock tunes in the world are like that. Toradora's OP is just a bit catchier to me with its bluesy riffs; its not any deeper as such.

Kannagi's ED, otoh, is just beautiful and sublime - sends a few chills down the spine like the vocal version of AIR's Aozora. Definitely have to pick up Kannagi's OST if only for that.

Teelotes taking the OP as almost a promo trailer in itself is a good read on it.

Aye, a separate subforum only has the advantage of fixing most spoiler problems (each ep gets its own thread), and that image posts are nicely kept in a separate thread.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by teelotes

...By the way, does anyone know what's the relationship between the OP and an old song posted on nicovideo? I can't read Japanese, so maybe someone can help to clarify? The link to the video is here: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4910696

The caption claims that that video -- which is the OP to a 1987 drama called "My Mama's an Idol" -- is the origin of this OP. Or rather that this is a kind of parody of that. Seems a bit of a stretch, but maybe Yamakan saw that show.

Thanks for the reply, Vexx. I really have a lot of trouble hearing the lyrics to Japanese songs, and don't pay much attention to the transliterations or translations, so I can't really say. I was just defending this because I think of it as such a perfect fit for the show, and find myself humming the tune at the oddest times.

[Vexx]

Anyone looking for a Nagi figure should head to:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/goods/goods...EY=NEOGDS-1875

She's in an idol kitty outfit.... maybe its something she wears later but its not her daily outfit.

[SageGaiGar]

Nekomimi.. yeah it's practically mandatory at a certain point.

[khryoleoz]

Great series and a 3rd episode with quite a bit of funny moments. Tsugumi doing a victory dance. Nagi's shining wizard. Too-pure-pure-boy. Kung fu fighting. Dodging Nagi's embrace. Man, lot's of good stuff on this series with good art, enjoyable cast, pleasant atmosphere, endearing characters, nice music, clearly having become my favorite this season. And this was directed by Yamamoto who got booted from Lucky Star? Either he learned a valuable lesson since then or he wasn't given a chance!

[stormy001_M1A2]

Originally Posted by khryoleoz

And this was directed by Yamamoto who got booted from Lucky Star? Either he learned a valuable lesson since then or he wasn't given a chance!

It has few possibilities.

1. He refused to put any endorsements in Lucky Star
2. A perfectionist, he overrun the animation budget for Lucky Star
3. He has different view on direction of the show should go.

You can search for the script where he was interviewed on this incident with Kyoto Animation on why he got the boot.

[risingstar3110]

I bet the landmark in this series also based on the real landmarks, just like SHny, Lucky Star and Clannad.

The details of streets, houses and stores designs are just too realistic.

Fans must have already spotted out where are those landmarks. Now we wait for them to put onto internet

[Solafighter]

The OP? .. Nh even thought, its has nothing to do with the plot of the series, its very good. Its like, how it would look like, if Nagi would be a real famous star.

I like it.

[JediNight]

ToraDora's OP overall doesn't do it for me unfortunately. The first section up to the title and the last 10 secs or so are great, but the middle is very generic. I've heard very similar melodic pacing many times before. Cheap seiyuu-made OP imho...

Whereas Kannagi yeah it's upbeat, but I love the "plain" part, and the events in the background are fun to watch. I doubt it will actually happen exactly that way, but it seems likely Nagi will head the "local idol" direction to prop up her failing Goddess powers.

Spoiler for Manga spoiler:

In the next episode or two I think we'll see it, but I couldn't stop laughing at the one chapter of the manga where everyones encouragement of her empowers the Oonusa and they end the chapter with her using it as a flashlight while Jin yells at her LOL...

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

I bet the landmark in this series also based on the real landmarks, just like SHny, Lucky Star and Clannad.

Probably, and hopefully we'll see some kind of special feature on the DVD's that shows the source material for the settings.

[Sorrow-K]

Ep 3

This anime works because these characters are so much fun and the directing is really good (I still can't believe this is the guy that got fired from Lucky Star).

I'm still trying to figure out just what it is that makes these characters so entertaining to watch. They're only just slight variations of archetypes we've seen before, but in this instance that's all it takes for them to be really enjoyable to watch. I can't explain it, but I'm liking every minute of it.

[Westlo]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

I bet the landmark in this series also based on the real landmarks, just like SHny, Lucky Star and Clannad.

The details of streets, houses and stores designs are just too realistic.

Fans must have already spotted out where are those landmarks. Now we wait for them to put onto internet

That they did.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/1...ine-in-detail/

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Westlo

That they did.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/1...ine-in-detail/

Looks like i don't have to wait for the DVD. Thanks for the link Westlo.

[risingstar3110]

Originally Posted by Westlo

That they did.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/1...ine-in-detail/

They are faster than i expect, the temple was said to be quite remote as well....

That web site is quite interesting, except all the H advertising is a bit of eyesore for my taste.
I'm at home so it's OK, but i guess it NSFW at all.

Out of topic(Lucky star):
This kind of event seemed to happen only in Japan -_-'. I doubt if any other place on Earth do similar stuffs

[Vexx]

Virtually all series set in "daily life" of current Japan use real life settings. It just seems traditional as an added realism feel. I remember first realizing it when Love Hina was released in 2000-ish and I'm sure the tradition goes back further.

Almost every anime series I can think of uses real life settings as a backdrop -- it seems to be one of the perks for the animators to visit the locations and take scads of photos (AIR, Kanon, Kamichu!, ARIA, Lucky*Star, Love Hina, and on and on ...)

The background artists then use the photo references in creating their scenes, sometimes down to the minutiae of individual rooms within a house.

[teelotes]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

They are faster than i expect, the temple was said to be quite remote as well....

That web site is quite interesting, except all the H advertising is a bit of eyesore for my taste.
I'm at home so it's OK, but i guess it NSFW at all.

Out of topic(Lucky star):
This kind of event seemed to happen only in Japan -_-'. I doubt if any other place on Earth do similar stuffs

Yeah, sankaku complex has quite a range of news daily, but mostly tilted towards the 18+ section, or at least requires an acquired taste.

For those who wish to avoid that, here's the original source:

Page 1: http://blog.livedoor.jp/mafin1/archives/51505232.html
Page 2: http://blog.livedoor.jp/mafin1/archives/51506539.html
Page 3: http://blog.livedoor.jp/mafin1/archives/51508238.html

Q&A page over at @wiki (Japanese): http://www19.atwiki.jp/kamnagi/?page=Q%26A

Think it talks about getting directions and maps on visiting the places, and other stuff.