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Xacual · 2009-11-20, 17:13

Well technically she didn't fail, she did reacquire her power but she was so terrified of feeling her power again that she basically had a meltdown. It's said after her death by Misaki that the Observatory confirmed her power returned. That's why we need to get Hei to the Gate to see what will happen!

hei · 2009-11-20, 17:55

This is a scene at the end of episode 25 of S1. It's Yin's observation ghost under a bridge.

Suga Shotarou, a writer of S1 and ODA, recently said this scene is a clue to understand what happened to Yin between S1 and S2. Probably a visit to the Gate caused her to change drastically.

justdreamin · 2009-11-20, 21:43

I think the first time you see Yin change her spector into human shape is when she saves Hei from being lost in the black abyss at the end of Episode 25 season 1. I think this is the first time she really acted on her emotions and free will even as a doll, and therefore evolved beyond what a doll is. I think this added to the fact that she was also within the gate. It could also be that Bai powers somehow rearranged her molecular to something more than a doll.

jonli · 2009-11-21, 01:48

Maybe her conscious is trapped in her specter form, her body being comatose and all seems to be that way.

hei · 2009-11-25, 07:33

Somewhere I found a post written by Kiuchi Hidenobu, a voice actor of Hei. It's from his personal blog and the date of posting is 24th November.

Spoiler:

Von Himmel · 2009-11-26, 07:20

Meh, so it's really going to be a 12 episode anime ?

Vanehei · 2009-11-29, 21:07

I was thinking...

Izanami has de power to make contractor`s powers against them... to make them comite suicide... so, what if the only way "the bad guys" had to make her use it in a massive way was to take off Hei powers, so he wont be affecter by her powers....

Narutaro · 2009-11-30, 11:45

about Mitaka Documents, I have a feeling that Mitaka document is basically Yin/Izanami. we now know a bit about the Mitaka Documents, and obviously it's something Amber left behind. in season 1, we had moment where Amber is alone with Yin, she could have told or left something to Yin.

my guess is, Yin got captured by some organization and they probably use ME squeezer to scan her brain to read the Mitaka documents.

other theory I had about Hei's lost of power and Suou as contractor. the anti contractor weapon that hit Hei is said to be further development from the prototype 2 years ago that Hei destroyed.

so during the scene where Hei lost his power, we got the anti contractor weapon, Hei's innate ability, and Suou's meteor fragment in one place. all this 3 present, force Suou to become contractor just like Hei gained his power. the difference this time is that the weapon broke halfway through the process so Hei's still exist (unlike Bai, who disappear) and Suou become somewhat half contractor. still retaining some emotion and still have to pay her remuneration.

hei · 2009-12-03, 05:54

Here are the digests for episodes 10&11.

Spoiler:

LightningZERO · 2009-12-03, 10:41

Nice. Looking forward to find out what's the twins' secrets

Amirali · 2009-12-03, 11:51

Courtesy of Artemisa and the DTB Fan Club o BA

Spoiler for Upcoming Episode Teasers (9-11):

hei · 2009-12-04, 05:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amirali

Courtesy of Artemisa and the DTB Fan Club o BA

Spoiler for Upcoming Episode Teasers (9-11):

Oh, dear! They say that the net is vast and infinite, but sometiems it's quite opposite.

Anyway, I don't mind if someone willingly credits my mistranslation and misspelling to their own mistakes.

Sidna · 2009-12-04, 18:27

Um...

Spoiler for episode 9:

creb · 2009-12-04, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidna

Um...

Spoiler for episode 9:

I was thinking the same thing after seeing Episode 9. She always seems to know too much, and that meeting with Suo where she managed it without the others seeing her....well, that hints at SOME type of contractor power.

atlans89 · 2009-12-04, 21:57

Kinda disappointed that the series wouldn't last long

Faerie · 2009-12-05, 11:25

erm, that would be a development that is completely disturbing. It would beat the appearance of Hobo-Hei.

By far.

They can't hate Amber that much, can they?

hei · 2009-12-06, 17:52

More than a week ago, I read the following rumor somewhere. It pinpointed Hei's shaving in episode 9. Moreover, I think it's quite plausible overall.

Spoiler for rumor:

To believe or not, that is the question.

forgottendiary · 2009-12-06, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by hei

More than a week ago, I read the following rumor somewhere. It pinpointed Hei's shaving in episode 9. Moreover, I think it's quite plausible overall.

Spoiler for rumor:

To believe or not, that is the question.

Assuming all of these are true:

Oreille's objective -> no, do not want, that was so 2007.

Kuroshinobu · 2009-12-06, 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by hei

More than a week ago, I read the following rumor somewhere. It pinpointed Hei's shaving in episode 9. Moreover, I think it's quite plausible overall.

Spoiler for rumor:

To believe or not, that is the question.

So far the only one that came true was that Hei shaved. Thank god too. The others are believable, except the one involving a certain Madame.

wandering-dreamer · 2009-12-06, 23:08

If those are true then Japan really has gender issues. Although....

Spoiler for thinking about it:

2009-11-20, 17:13	Link #41
Xacual Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Well technically she didn't fail, she did reacquire her power but she was so terrified of feeling her power again that she basically had a meltdown. It's said after her death by Misaki that the Observatory confirmed her power returned. That's why we need to get Hei to the Gate to see what will happen! __________________ I was influenced by a certain group overflowing with madness and started trying to write a story. Please give it a try. Crashed into Fantasy

2009-11-25, 07:33	Link #45
hei Member Join Date: Apr 2008	Somewhere I found a post written by Kiuchi Hidenobu, a voice actor of Hei. It's from his personal blog and the date of posting is 24th November. Spoiler: It's finished.* ...Suou... Everything is in her head. * Judging from his other posts, it means the recording of the final episode is finished. Source: http://bee-nice.jugem.jp

2009-11-26, 07:20	Link #46
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	Meh, so it's really going to be a 12 episode anime ? __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2009-11-29, 21:07	Link #47
Vanehei Sousuke rules Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mèxico city	I was thinking... Izanami has de power to make contractor`s powers against them... to make them comite suicide... so, what if the only way "the bad guys" had to make her use it in a massive way was to take off Hei powers, so he wont be affecter by her powers.... __________________ Baratijas Blog, we rock your world www.baratijasblog.com

2009-12-03, 05:54	Link #49
hei Member Join Date: Apr 2008	Here are the digests for episodes 10&11. Spoiler: EP 10: Your Smile in the False Street From the conversation with mom, Suou gets to know the secret that has been kept in the past. Suou is shocked and her little body shivers. However, while Hei who she can rely only on disappeared, the prophesied future is approaching. EP 11: Water dries and the Moon waxes. Just arrived at the Sunshine Aquarium Tokyo, the final destination of the trip. And then... Hei decides to confront his deep scar from the past. The final stage of "memories of future" that is recorded in the Mitaka document is about to start.

2009-11-20, 17:55	Link #42
hei Member Join Date: Apr 2008	This is a scene at the end of episode 25 of S1. It's Yin's observation ghost under a bridge. Suga Shotarou, a writer of S1 and ODA, recently said this scene is a clue to understand what happened to Yin between S1 and S2. Probably a visit to the Gate caused her to change drastically.

2009-11-20, 21:43	Link #43
justdreamin Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	I think the first time you see Yin change her spector into human shape is when she saves Hei from being lost in the black abyss at the end of Episode 25 season 1. I think this is the first time she really acted on her emotions and free will even as a doll, and therefore evolved beyond what a doll is. I think this added to the fact that she was also within the gate. It could also be that Bai powers somehow rearranged her molecular to something more than a doll.

2009-11-21, 01:48	Link #44
jonli JONLIの憂' Join Date: Apr 2004	Maybe her conscious is trapped in her specter form, her body being comatose and all seems to be that way.

2009-11-30, 11:45	Link #48
Narutaro Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	about Mitaka Documents, I have a feeling that Mitaka document is basically Yin/Izanami. we now know a bit about the Mitaka Documents, and obviously it's something Amber left behind. in season 1, we had moment where Amber is alone with Yin, she could have told or left something to Yin. my guess is, Yin got captured by some organization and they probably use ME squeezer to scan her brain to read the Mitaka documents. other theory I had about Hei's lost of power and Suou as contractor. the anti contractor weapon that hit Hei is said to be further development from the prototype 2 years ago that Hei destroyed. so during the scene where Hei lost his power, we got the anti contractor weapon, Hei's innate ability, and Suou's meteor fragment in one place. all this 3 present, force Suou to become contractor just like Hei gained his power. the difference this time is that the weapon broke halfway through the process so Hei's still exist (unlike Bai, who disappear) and Suou become somewhat half contractor. still retaining some emotion and still have to pay her remuneration.

2009-12-03, 10:41	Link #50
LightningZERO You are Dominated! Author Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Earth Age: 35	Nice. Looking forward to find out what's the twins' secrets __________________ その再生を破壊する Destroy This Rebirth

2009-12-03, 11:51	Link #51
Amirali Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Over the rainbow. Age: 38	Courtesy of Artemisa and the DTB Fan Club o BA Spoiler for Upcoming Episode Teasers (9-11): Ep 09. Title: TBA (Script by Shinsuke Onishi) Going through various hardships, Suou arrives in Tokyo. She is now looking for her mother who waw separate when she was young. Carrying mom's photo book in her hand, she randomly wanders the locations of photos. And finally she finds her mom's mansion near the Gate. EP 10: Your Smile in the False Street From the conversation with mom, Suou gets to know the secret that has been kept in the past. Suou is shocked and her little body shivers. However, while Hei who she can rely only on disappeared, the prophesied future is approaching. EP 11: Water dries and the Moon waxes. Just arrived at the Sunshine Aquarium Tokyo, the final destination of the trip. And then... Hei decides to confront his deep scar from the past. The final stage of "memories of future" that is recorded in the Mitaka document is about to start

2009-12-04, 18:27	Link #53
Sidna Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	Um... Spoiler for episode 9: IMHO - "Mama no aitai ni?" sounds as... a hint? Could it be that Madam Oreille is Amber?

2009-12-04, 21:57	Link #55
atlans89 Heretic Inquisitor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hanoi	Kinda disappointed that the series wouldn't last long

2009-12-05, 11:25	Link #56
Faerie Joseph Defense Squad Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mars	erm, that would be a development that is completely disturbing. It would beat the appearance of Hobo-Hei. By far. They can't hate Amber that much, can they?

2009-12-06, 17:52	Link #57
hei Member Join Date: Apr 2008	More than a week ago, I read the following rumor somewhere. It pinpointed Hei's shaving in episode 9. Moreover, I think it's quite plausible overall. Spoiler for rumor: ・Shion's ability is cloning of life and remuneration is immobilization. ・From the beginning, Shion is the only daughter of the family and female. ・Suou's memory was transplanted by Dr Pavlichenko. ・Suou is a middle existense between human and doll. ・Oreille's objective is to eliminate all contractors. ・Shion and Dr Pavlichenko's objective is to doll-ize the entire mankind. ・Hei will shave in episode 9. ・Shion gives birth, Yin gives rest. ・Yin helps Hei, then she ... ・In episode 10, after realizing her secret, Suou becomes a complete doll-contractor and overruns into the massacre mode. To believe or not, that is the question.

2009-12-06, 23:08	Link #60
wandering-dreamer reads too much Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: you know that's a great question.....	If those are true then Japan really has gender issues. Although.... Spoiler for thinking about it: Has it ever been stated somewhere, in exact words, that Shion is male? I can't actually think of a case for that now. And I was starting to think, after Suou is revealed to be SOMETHING in this past episode that she and Yin might be the bridges between dolls/contractors/normal people. __________________ If it has a plot I have something to say about it! Twitter time!