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View Poll Results: Suzumiya Haruhi (2009) - Episode 13 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 110 | 53.14% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 57 | 27.54% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 15 | 7.25% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 18 | 8.70% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 1.93% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.48% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 0.97% | |
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2009-09-05, 03:25 | Link #241 | |
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It's just Haruhi going full speed with her brakes cut. Like a kid on Christmas eve, nothing more really. It's pretty evident in her reaction when Kyon attempts to "punch" her... she can't even believe whats happening in front of her. |
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2009-09-05, 03:28 | Link #242 |
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Hmm, I was actually kind of disappointed. The whole episode seemed quite subdued considering the range of emotion of this story arc. Everyone seemed a bit perfunctory. There was some marvelous animation of Haruhi going through a range of expressions though. The animation and art style seems like its moved closer to season one style again though.
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2009-09-05, 03:48 | Link #243 |
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If I were to describe the second of season of Haruhi, I'd pretty much describe it as mildly amusing, but ultimately shallow and pointless. It's epitomized by Endless Eight, which could get a reaction out of people, but what really was the point? While Haruhi is a series of great creativity, I feel that it ultimately lacked impact in that I could be entertained while watching it, but can't really remember these feelings afterwards, making it hard to describe what makes this series so great. I felt that way of the first season too, but that got around the problem by doing what it has to do and more. The series is at its best when it does the tongue in cheek snarky storytelling that I love so much. But when it tries to be dramatic, it has a hard time keeping stable. I feel this is true of all the KyoAni shows I have watched; even my beloved Clannad got really wobbly at times (Though some people will say worse-- this is not for this thread. )
Well, fortunately this episode is none of these things. Finally, we just get to see what the hell all of this was really about. Haruhi's slowly increasing acts of oppression have finally pushed everyone to the limit and no longer can he watch Mikuru suffer anymore. He was inspired by Mikuru's determination to keep going on, and he realized that if someone like her is willing to fight, then he must do it too. The beginning of the episide catches us with yet another crisis on hand-- another contact lens. We are quickly reminded that this situation is getting more severe, and if this should keep on, Yuki just may no longer be able to hold Haruhi off. The ominous music playing seems a bit overdone, but make no mistake. They are walking on a very thin line here. Arguably, the main scene of this episode when Kyon stands up wasn't as epic as it could have been. But that doesn't really matter; after all if you think about it's just 2 people having an argument. Sometimes going over the top defeats the purpose of a dramatic scene. That scene was well done, because the importance of the situation is understated. It's more than just two people yelling at each other; the fate of the universe is at stake. But then again, causally discussing the destruction of the universe is a staple of the series. We get another of those talks with Itsuki, and as usual he just serves to annoy the crap out of Kyon. We also realize the amount of pressure Itsuki is really feeling and that despite his shadiness, he really does care about everyone (especaially Kyon? :O) I found Kyon's internal monologue with Tanuguchi pretty interesting, as he secretly defends Haruhi. While it may be nothing new in the series, I have to wonder, what is Haruhi hiding in her own mind? Could she possibly feel the same way as Kyon? And she is caught making a ponytail. The scene where Haruhi cheers up is incredibly cute. The end of the episode shows Haruhi's manipulations causing cherry blossoms to appear. Oh no, did she not learn a thing? -_- Did Kyon make the matter worse? While it might seem like it's teaching a bad lesson here, indeed this problem was never as easy as it sounds. I thought the end was sorta anticlimactic especially after the climax happened into the middle. But that doesn't really detract from the episode too much. 9/10 A very good episode, probably the best for season two, and just as good if not better than much of season 1. Despite the seemingly lack of epicness, I found a lot of substance to be taken from the episode as usually I really don't write more than a few sentences for these episodes. This is the first time in a while I'm anticipating the next episode. Here's to Haruhi going out this season with a bang. She wills it!
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2009-09-05, 03:53 | Link #244 | |
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2009-09-05, 03:55 | Link #245 | |
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2009-09-05, 04:07 | Link #246 |
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In case you haven't caught on yet, Sigh is one long movie, divided into 5 parts. That's why the "end" is anti-climatic; it isn't the "end", it's just when the episode stops. That's why Mikuru was cut off mid-sentence in the first Sigh episode, and continued straight from the start of the second episode.
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2009-09-05, 04:10 | Link #247 | |
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2009-09-05, 04:23 | Link #248 |
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I really love KyoAni's adaptation. It's because of this deterioration in Kyon and Haruhi's relationship that vol 2 was my least favorite book. I thought the book did very well to convey Kyon's frustration and rage towards Haruhi's blatant devaluing of Mikuru. His urge to strike her was something I felt strongly while reading Haruhi's defiant response. But this episode, with the flim-noir style visuals, the tense musical score, and great delivery of lines by Sugita and Hirano, had me totally glued to the scene. It was outstanding!
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2009-09-05, 04:28 | Link #250 |
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Again, I think you are missing the point. The reason the episodes are so uneven in pacing/drama/whatever is that it is being presented as a movie cut into episodes. Basically, if you are feeling that... that's what KyoAni wants you to feel. They are really, really, really loving the meta content of Haruhi this year.
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2009-09-05, 04:45 | Link #251 | |
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2009-09-05, 04:50 | Link #252 | |
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E8: runs for 8 episodes (this one is too easy to explain right?) Sighs: is cut like a movie (the plot revolves around making a movie) The intentions are clear. It's all been planned. |
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2009-09-05, 04:57 | Link #253 | |
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2009-09-05, 05:15 | Link #254 | |
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2009-09-05, 05:19 | Link #255 | |
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There's rarely a sense of overwhelming urgency to any situation so there really can't be solid drama in my eyes, and this is I think made pretty clear in the rather over the top sequence of Kyon about to deck Haruhi and them then having their shouting match. Haruhi was barely tapping Mikuru on the head with that microphone and it actually looked more like she was playing with her and that was the extent of their problems. The thing here though is that Mikuru is such a total exploitation character (In some ways it's hard to blame anybody for thinking her as a dolllike plaything to do with as they please let alone Haruhi who is prone to treating others like they are there to do her bidding)that she can't be bothered to say something, anything, for herself as usual. This is not a show built for drama and Kyoani is really just not a studio built for drama, so I wish they'd just focus on other areas that they could be good at (Eye candy, moe presentation, wacky antics/scenarios etc.) and tone down the way in which the dramatic moments are presented more often like they did with that one scene I mentioned with just Haruhi and Kyon looking at each other. That says enough for these characters and their level of personal relationship development that we've come to know. |
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2009-09-05, 05:26 | Link #256 | |
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Unless, you may be concerned I consider KyoAni's intentions to be malicious. Despite my occasional sarcasm, I have never seriously thought they are somehow trying to kill Haruhi or trolling their fans, not to mention many things are out of their control. I seriously do believe they put a lot of love in their work and they are my favorite studio. I guess we will have to like Sigh in different ways, in any case we can agree the next episode is something to look forward to?
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2009-09-05, 05:35 | Link #257 | |
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2009-09-05, 05:54 | Link #259 |
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Watched the episode, quite a lots of fun stuffs: Yuki's super strength, Mikuru's laser (or...whatever) cutter beam, Yuki's super speed (she approach her target way be4 her hat can fall xD), Itsuki's super speed (he probably do that pool-flipping to get across and approach Kyon from the right) then of course ponytail!! and that screens with sakura petals.
Undoubtly i will give this Ep 10 .... Anyway back to the discussion within this thread and it's time for orthodox Haruhiist (..me...) to have a say (yeah it's an anime, but it's such a good material for only entertainment):
Judge Haruhi based on human standard is like judging God by human standard
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