Zero no Tsukaima Novels Discussion Thread

[MitsubishiZero]

Originally Posted by azziz

i said i wasn't expecting any plot progress,and that was true,but you kept surprising me.
how did saito electrocute the dragon?from who's the voice who saved them-elf or new familiar?do we know tiffa familiar(i so much hope it would be him,i don't want another man to "own" her breast,he deserve them,it would no be cheating louise sinse she didn't have any)?but if it's a female elf it would be even better:another beautie who could taugh tiffa their magic; i don't know for you but to me even void user-who can barely do 2 or 3 spell at most-suck in comparison.
what kind of people are the elf-don't seem better than the pope from what you sai-?
and can you pm me the 6000 years secret if you can't say it here,please?

but you kept surprising me.

No I didn't. The author did.

do we know tiffa familiar(i so much hope it would be him,i don't want another man to "own" her breast,he deserve them,it would no be cheating louise sinse she didn't have any)?but if it's a female elf it would be even better:another beautie who could taugh tiffa their magic;

No we do not know Tiffa's familiar yet, but it won't be Saito. Saito is the Gandalfr. Actually in chapter 7, the Pope's plans for Saito and Tiffa are revealed. The name (and the other name as well, e.g. Gandalfr=Kami's right hand) of the Fourth Tsukaima is also disclosed..........The elves also told Saito why they HAD to guard the Holy Land...........

I don't think Saito deserve Tiffa's breasts, afterall Saito's lover is Louise, and "enjoying" someone else's breasts IMO is cheating........

i don't know for you but to me even void user-who can barely do 2 or 3 spell at most-suck in comparison.

You have to understand how strong the elves are in terms of mahou powers........they can use magic different from the water/fire/wind/Void systems Tabasa and Louise use, for example. Those swords which move on their own/ houses which defend for you are the examples of elven mahou........and you have to bear in mind Void cause a huge strain on the strength of the user.........

how did saito electrocute the dragon?

Fighting the Dragon with the Katana, Saito finally beat the monster by electrocuting the beast..........

^^^^^does this remind you of anything, something from many volumes ago???

what kind of people are the elf-don't seem better than the pope from what you sai-?

Well the elves may be cruel, they had to......they are just reacting on self-defense. Oh, and I can tell you the Pope is so much more sinister than the elves, because his plans for Saito and Tiffa is.............

and can you pm me the 6000 years secret if you can't say it here,please?

Make wild guesses first

[AlaAlba]

maybe I am too cynical here, but it s like that nothing new/great had happened in the volume.
saito kidnapped, saito locked, saito fled....
so much for one volume... I hoped for more I admit.

[MitsubishiZero]

Originally Posted by AlaAlba

maybe I am too cynical here, but it s like that nothing new/great had happened in the volume.
saito kidnapped, saito locked, saito fled....
so much for one volume... I hoped for more I admit.

well that is because I just described the start and the end of the volume, very briefly too.......that is why you would think vol. 19 has little to tell us..........

but no, it revealed a lot of secrets and laid a lot of storylines..........if you are looking for Louise tsundereing then sorry this volume is not really about that.........

[AlaAlba]

Originally Posted by MitsubishiZero

well that is because I just described the start and the end of the volume, very briefly too.......that is why you would think vol. 19 has little to tell us..........

but no, it revealed a lot of secrets and laid a lot of storylines..........if you are looking for Louise tsundereing then sorry this volume is not really about that.........

Spoiler for 19:

well...
maybe because I half expected the 4th familiar would finally make his/her appearance. and he didnt...
at first I got this bit of hope he d be saito, but after found out what he can/ his role is I think it s okay if he were someone else (meanie me ).

as for what happened with Brimil(?) and Sasha, we cant blame her of what she had done to him, considering what he caused to half of her races
AND Saito is making a bit much of it. oh cmon Saito...

[MitsubishiZero]

Originally Posted by AlaAlba

Spoiler for 19:

well...
maybe because I half expected the 4th familiar would finally make his/her appearance. and he didnt...
at first I got this bit of hope he d be saito, but after found out what he can/ his role is I think it s okay if he were someone else (meanie me ).

as for what happened with Brimil(?) and Sasha, we cant blame her of what she had done to him, considering what he caused to half of her races
AND Saito is making a bit much of it. oh cmon Saito...

Good. That means you have read through vol. 19.

Spoiler for :

Spoiler for :

as for what happened with Brimil(?) and Sasha, we cant blame her of what she had done to him, considering what he caused to half of her races
AND Saito is making a bit much of it. oh cmon Saito...

well I do not know what caused Brimil do that "THAT", but I really don't think he did it on purpose as the elves are not easy to handle........but considering how Sasha dislike Brimil (I don't know the translated term for him so i use yours XD) she would have done "THAT" to him even if it was an accident.........I am thinking about the possibility of "THAT INCIDENT" is an accident of something going wrong in the 4th Tsukaima Shoukan Shiki, or when the 4 Void users come together and the spell the Pope mentioned was activated..........

[AlaAlba]

Originally Posted by MitsubishiZero

Good. That means you have read through vol. 19.

Spoiler for :

well I do not know what caused Brimil do that "THAT", but I really don't think he did it on purpose as the elves are not easy to handle........but considering how Sasha dislike Brimil (I don't know the translated term for him so i use yours XD) she would have done "THAT" to him even if it was an accident.........I am thinking about the possibility of "THAT INCIDENT" is an accident of something going wrong in the 4th Tsukaima Shoukan Shiki, or when the 4 Void users come together and the spell the Pope mentioned was activated..........

Spoiler for 19:

the race they fought that time could as well be the reason, the variyarg(?). they re not exist in the present time... or are they? the spell might have been used on them, and a few elves were a bit unlucky maybe?

I think it s not like an accident, you could tell it from the way Vittorio "asked" the mirror.
and the 4th famliar must be some human bomb or something like that

[MitsubishiZero]

Originally Posted by AlaAlba

Spoiler for 19:

the race they fought that time could as well be the reason, the variyarg(?). they re not exist in the present time... or are they? the spell might have been used on them, and a few elves were a bit unlucky maybe?

I think it s not like an accident, you could tell it from the way Vittorio "asked" the mirror.
and the 4th famliar must be some human bomb or something like that

Spoiler for :

hmm, the way I see it is that Vittorio do not know the whole picture, and mistook Birimil for doing all those on purpose.......actually we may never know until the author discloses it.......we have to wait till the story unfold......I am just making wild guesses here

4th Tsukaima? human bomb? I think it's more than that, something/someone with mass destructive powers to accomplish the "feat" the elves so feared afterward.......but yeah the term bomb fits well, if the effects are so devestative as said by Vittorio

[AlaAlba]

Originally Posted by MitsubishiZero

Spoiler for :

hmm, the way I see it is that Vittorio do not know the whole picture, and mistook Birimil for doing all those on purpose.......actually we may never know until the author discloses it.......we have to wait till the story unfold......I am just making wild guesses here

Spoiler for 19:

funny how we have such different argument
But I still think Vittorio knows it all. He mentioned "Brimil's way of life", Harceginia people used to refer Brimil as some god, never concretely express how or what look like Brimil is. Instead he mentioned it as if Brimil was just some guy from the past. Julio asked him about that too.
He mentioned "Brimil's life" because he knows Brimil lived his life as a human, he look on the mirror I guess. He sent Saito to the past to meet Brimil and I believe he did it with a purpose.

Originally Posted by MitsubishiZero

Spoiler for :

4th Tsukaima? human bomb? I think it's more than that, something/someone with mass destructive powers to accomplish the "feat" the elves so feared afterward.......but yeah the term bomb fits well, if the effects are so devestative as said by Vittorio

Spoiler for 19:

and he wont get away alive after unleash the spell
Delf looks like to not have a good feeling about the 4th familiar, when Saito was re-summoned.

and btw, Tabitha's sister still havent a familiar right?

[MitsubishiZero]

Originally Posted by AlaAlba

Spoiler for 19:

funny how we have such different argument
But I still think Vittorio knows it all. He mentioned "Brimil's way of life", Harceginia people used to refer Brimil as some god, never concretely express how or what look like Brimil is. Instead he mentioned it as if Brimil was just some guy from the past. Julio asked him about that too.
He mentioned "Brimil's life" because he knows Brimil lived his life as a human, he look on the mirror I guess. He sent Saito to the past to meet Brimil and I believe he did it with a purpose.

Spoiler for 19:

and he wont get away alive after unleash the spell
Delf looks like to not have a good feeling about the 4th familiar, when Saito was re-summoned.

and btw, Tabitha's sister still havent a familiar right?

Spoiler for :

Haha, we see things differently~From the passage it gives me the impression that Vittorio saw Brimil's past through that mirror, so he kind of knows what happened to Brimil.......

come to think of it, yes, Saito was deliberately sent to meet Brimil........hmm, interesting.........

Tabitha's sister should be able to shoukan the same Tsukaima Joseph did (don;t know how to pronouce the name XP)

[fhxc885]

Originally Posted by MitsubishiZero

OMG!!!!!

Vol. 19 Chapter 5 +6 (I sped up my reading, couldn't bear the anxiety)

OH NO!!! This is very shocking. Saito and Tiffa's fate were decided, and I can tell you its not going to be good, in fact it is probably worse than dying...........Tiffa's secret is now known by the elves........

Can't imagine what is going to happen next..........(>.<)




Who is this guy? I don't like him by the looks of his face, and I am not alone......




OH NO TIFFA YOU OK?!?! OI! Stop doing that to Tiffa!!!

that guy look quite familiar

[azziz]

did tiffa escape with saito?wich of the girl were part of the rescue paty?and what was henrietta reaction to their capture?
was saito the philanderer able to ad an elf to his harem?

[MitsubishiZero]

Originally Posted by azziz

did tiffa escape with saito?wich of the girl were part of the rescue paty?and what was henrietta reaction to their capture?
was saito the philanderer able to ad an elf to his harem?

The whole party escaped, including Tiffa. Henrietta could do nothing; the Romans said they would handle it, thus I said above Vittorio has evil plans

I can say that the elf is interested in Saito, and Tiffa too XD

Originally Posted by fhxc885

that guy look quite familiar

Well where did you see him then?

[fhxc885]

Originally Posted by MitsubishiZero

The whole party escaped, including Tiffa. Henrietta could do nothing; the Romans said they would handle it, thus I said above Vittorio has evil plans

I can say that the elf is interested in Saito, and Tiffa too XD



Well where did you see him then?

Spoiler for The picture:

This guy

[AlaAlba]

Originally Posted by fhxc885

Spoiler for The picture:

This guy

lol, that's the guy from Louise mama's novel. shouldnt that make him Louise papa then?
I havent read that one though

... .... ... lol, it's in Chinese

hope to see Tiffa joins Saito's already big harem

[MitsubishiZero]

Originally Posted by AlaAlba

lol, that's the guy from Louise mama's novel. shouldnt that make him Louise papa then?
I havent read that one though

... .... ... lol, it's in Chinese

hope to see Tiffa joins Saito's already big harem

yup, the guy in your picture should be Louise's dad, if i am not mistake. That is not the official ZnT novel, this is the 烈風の騎士姫........a seperate novel about Louise's mother (the pink-haired girl you see in the pic).........

lol i see the Chinese words too, you bought it from China or did you get the screenshots from BT?


Tiffa was not really a member of Saito's harem, but after volume 19 she is not OFFICIALLY Saito's harem......



Please notice the elf ears in the picture:



He is a different person.....

[AlaAlba]

Chinese surely does it fast.

and I wanted to see the guy's lover to become Saito's harem too, too bad it werent to be.

in the anime Louise's dad have a blonde hair I think, this guy's is grey. and they re totally different too ^^

[Darknemo2000]

Originally Posted by AlaAlba

Chinese surely does it fast.

and I wanted to see the guy's lover to become Saito's harem too, too bad it werent to be.

in the anime Louise's dad have a blonde hair I think, this guy's is grey. and they re totally different too ^^

You should know that ZnT anime screwed up the ZnT novels real good. Probably one of the worst adaptations ever. So it is no wonder that they make the dad's hair blond when in the novels he was more on the grey side. Its because those who were making anime did not really pay close attention to the novels, not bothering to ask the author about some details.

[MitsubishiZero]

Originally Posted by AlaAlba

Chinese surely does it fast.

and I wanted to see the guy's lover to become Saito's harem too, too bad it werent to be.

in the anime Louise's dad have a blonde hair I think, this guy's is grey. and they re totally different too ^^

The Japanese bookstore selling the ZnT series set up an official distributor in China (great way to make money, sell the older novels at fresh novel prices, plus the huge population/market in China), resulting in some novels being translated into Chinese and sold there, though the novels are not the latest ones.........for the latest ones you have to read raws.....

Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

You should know that ZnT anime screwed up the ZnT novels real good. Probably one of the worst adaptations ever. So it is no wonder that they make the dad's hair blond when in the novels he was more on the grey side. Its because those who were making anime did not really pay close attention to the novels, not bothering to ask the author about some details.

which is rather sad, given that the novel is so well written.......ppl who didn;t read the novel but watched the anime would think the novel is as shitty as the anime if they didn't bother to find out........sad but a fact

[fhxc885]

Originally Posted by MitsubishiZero

yup, the guy in your picture should be Louise's dad, if i am not mistake. That is not the official ZnT novel, this is the 烈風の騎士姫........a seperate novel about Louise's mother (the pink-haired girl you see in the pic).........

lol i see the Chinese words too, you bought it from China or did you get the screenshots from BT?


Tiffa was not really a member of Saito's harem, but after volume 19 she is not OFFICIALLY Saito's harem......



Please notice the elf ears in the picture:



He is a different person.....

Sorry my bad

[azziz]

Originally Posted by AlaAlba

Chinese surely does it fast.

and I wanted to see the guy's lover to become Saito's harem too, too bad it werent to be.

in the anime Louise's dad have a blonde hair I think, this guy's is grey. and they re totally different too ^^

so no elf fell for saito,what a shame;if it was negima-even tough he's only 10 years old...
can you at less be more specific about his progress with tiffa feeling,if saito did anything to support or protect her?