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Each time that Sheryl has stolen Ranka's thunder, Sheryl had previously been there encouraging or trying to help Ranka in some sort of way. After all, she's been there for Ranka from day one. I wont go on further than that because I don't quite support the blaming as well.
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2008-07-02, 06:24 | Link #402 | |
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Was Sheryl encouraging or helping Ranka when she kissed Alto? She's supposedly Ranka's friend right? Does this stop her from putting the moves on Alto? She knows Ranka likes him. Did she thinking of Ranka when she joined Alto's school and proceeded to try to monopolize his time? Does Sheryl's support come with the clause that Ranka has to just bend over and take it each time and she can't reciprocate? |
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2008-07-02, 06:53 | Link #404 |
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Yes, Sheryl don't have the right to feel depressed over her failure and powerlessness because Ranka saved the day. She also don't have the right to go after Alto because Ranka is after Alto and she should step aside for Ranka despite the fact they know Alto practically at the same time. She also don't have the right to offer Alto a better present despite the fact that it was his birthday and it was his choice. She also should have told Ranka to her face that her present wasnt good enough.
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2008-07-02, 07:00 | Link #405 | |
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2008-07-02, 07:57 | Link #407 |
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Heh, you know, the source of all these battles between Ranka & Sheryl fans is Alto. We often get caught by the girls that we often forget Alto is not a neutral factor in this discussion.
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2008-07-02, 08:24 | Link #412 |
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You're the one that claimed Sheryl cared about Ranka. I wouldn't claim that Ranka cares about Sheryl beyond the whole fangirl thing, and that's probably over and done with...until we get to the point where they become, gag me, "Best Friends Forever".
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2008-07-02, 08:25 | Link #413 |
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I think he's trying to imply that Sheryl's little chit chat and pep talk to Ranka is meaningless and doesn't amount to concern for her. In other words he's desperately trying to reach for something to counter the "Ranka didn't give a shit about Sheryl" line of thought that has emerged from 12... trying being the key word.
I look forward to seeing more lolexcuses from some fans if they go in the direction I think they will. |
2008-07-02, 08:29 | Link #414 |
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I suppose that depends on who is doing the classifying, then. What might strike one person as meaningless or unimportant might strike another person as significant. In this context, all that matters is the significance that the characters themselves attach to the dialogue, not the viewers.
Both Sheryl and Ranka seem to think the topics of Ranka's career and development important, since it is revisited a number of times during their conversations. |
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I didn't miss the parallel but you might have missed that Sheryl would be Mao. The aggressor who causes Ranka/Sara to become jealous after seeing the kiss with Alto/Shin. Ranka is Sara the one in love but afraid to be the aggressor. Watching from the outside. I dispute the belief that Sheryl didn't know. Her face clearly shows she understand Ranka's feelings in that episode. Quote:
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2008-07-02, 10:51 | Link #418 |
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Once again you miss the point. I'm not trying to defending her character. I'm trying to compare and contrast her to Sheryl so that you can see that her actions in Ep12 are similar to Sheryl actions during the past episodes. So if you feel her actions in Ep12 reflect badly on her character then you're saying that Sheryl's character is just as bad if not worse throughout the series. I guess you prefer one sentence posts that bring that completely miss the point better?
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2008-07-02, 12:47 | Link #419 | |
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This is no way can be compared to not inquire a word about the friend who had fallen sick, collapsed and taken hostage. |
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2008-07-02, 13:00 | Link #420 |
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So Sheryl's unconcern of Ranka's feeling toward Also is worse than Ranka's unconcern of Sheryl's well-being? May be stepping down and letting Ranka have Alto all to herself will make her a better person, you think?
Alto isn't anyone to claim and I say Sheryl works her charm very well. It isn't her fault that Ranka's outshined. Since when two rivals in love have to consider about each other's feeling? The point is, while Ranka's all about Alto, Sheryl on the other hand has other concerns like her works and Galaxy. Ranka did show her concern to Sheryl once in ep7, but in ep12 after meeting Alto she completely forgot about everything else, even her idol. That's not really nice from a friend pov. |
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