Clannad - Episode 9 Discussion / Poll

[Julius Firefocht]

It's good, it's really good. Tears came to my eyes during this episode, and Fuko will long be remembered.

10/10 from me. Any less would dishonour and devalue the excellent work that the artists from KyoAni has done.

[IRJustman]

Originally Posted by X207

were there any major mistakes in sprocket TWH's subs?

I'd like to think there weren't. :)

Originally Posted by Snuffle

And I was lol'ing at the ep 10 preview when Kotomi goes "bully?" and whoever she was talking to replied "yes!".

I smell several quotes patched together out of context. I will be up-front and honestly say that I don' t know the story, so I really don't know what exactly will unfold. The ambiance didn't seem too uniform, neither did the setting. Even though the conversation seemed to flow normally, the aforementioned seemed to suggest otherwise.

Basically, it all boils down to this: They're called "teasers" for a reason. ;) (And in this case, not only is Kotomi being "teased", so are we.)

--Ian.

[Kinny Riddle]

I forgot to add, one thing Kyo-Ani did right where Key didn't was the wedding attire of Kouko-san and Yuusuke.

A wedding gown and suit is what a couple is supposed to wear in a wedding, not your regular clothes, lol.

[TooPurePureBoy]

Man, if any of my friends saw me right now....

I'm a football player sized dude with a big scruffy beard.....I'm crying like a little girl all throughout this episode....

Damn you KyoAni give me my testicles back!

[deathreape98]

great tearjerking episode. 10/10

[Kamui4356]

Overall a pretty satisfying conclusion to Fuko's story. In the end she her feelings were finally able to reach her sister. Fuko really grew on me as her arc progressed, so I'm glad she was able to get a happy ending. She's still in a coma, but at least everyone remembers her somewhat, even if it's really just a vague feeling. Hopefully KyoAni can keep up the good work with the rest of the girls' stories.

[Xiaolang]

I cried again, therefore I gave it another 10. Best episode in the series thus far.

I can now understand why Key used the word "Clannad" for the title. The essence of family and togetherness really shines through in this episode.

By the way, if you didn't cry in this episode, you have no soul. =P

[MaxwellDemon]

Originally Posted by Xiaolang

]By the way, if you didn't cry in this episode, you have no soul. =P

Poor Kaioshin then, he is accused of having no soul.

Anyway, I can't wait to watch this episode... since I am living on campus in my university, I have to wait for direct download. >_<

[taelrak]

Hrm, the conclusion and how it turned out was fairly satisfying, but I actually didn't like KyoAni's handling of the scenes for once. They felt a bit clumsy and contrived compared to what I usually expect from them...

Spoiler for Objections:

On one hand, the build-up was very emotional, but having her "disappear" from various people's memories so many times largely insulated and numbed me to the true effect.

My biggest objection would be the wedding scene where Fuko shows up. It was inevitable that she would be the last one to see her sister off of course, but KyoAni seems to have forced the scene a bit too much. For me, one thing that always makes such "tragic" scenes more effective is the use of the right music and background to set the mood--something KyoAni does to amazing effect usually. However, the harshness of the scene made it feel contrived--even as Ibuki turns to Fuko, the music abruptly starts (on a rather harsh note too), and the scene shifts suddenly--overall it felt too exaggerated and almost as if KyoAni was trying just a bit too hard.

This clumsiness made the entire scene feel a bit out of place and awkward - in fact, it's something I'm used to seeing from anime that parody such tragic scenes by over-exaggerating, such as Hayate no Gotoku or Seto no Hanayome, not from a scene that was actually meant to be moving. It tended to undermine the very touching and moving dialogue and intended effect of this parting reunion.

Contrast this to the Kanata scene in Lucky Star, which started with a subtle build-up and the emotional scene had a very "soft" feel to it that wasn't imposed on the viewer.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by MaxwellDemon

Poor Kaioshin then, he is accused of having no soul.

Anyway, I can't wait to watch this episode... since I am living on campus in my university, I have to wait for direct download. >_<

Eh, whatever, these comments of "Voting Less then 10 is dishonorable" or "You aren't watching properly" are so dime a dozen and I'm so used to it by now that it doesn't bother me much anymore. I just take it for what it is, laugh it off and stick to my guns. I mean after all, it's silly. It's just a number and a show, so why should it mean I have no soul right? No harm done.

[Snuffle]

Originally Posted by Kamui4356

She's still in a coma, but at least everyone remembers her somewhat, even if it's really just a vague feeling.

Didn't she die? I mean, they said her condition got worse in another ep... Wouldn't that be the reason she was dissapearing? I dunno...

Could be also that she is near waking up so her ghost is no longer needed.

[MaxwellDemon]

Originally Posted by Snuffle

Didn't she die? I mean, they said her condition got worse in another ep... Wouldn't that be the reason she was dissapearing? I dunno...

Could be also that she is near waking up so her ghost is no longer needed.

When they mean worsening, it means that the chances that she'll stay in coma is higher now.

[Klashikari]

Her ghost state was primarly so she can fulfill Kouko's happiness.
Now that she managed to greet her a happy weddings with tons of people, her wish is granted, so she is already happy, and her ghost form is no longer required.

Medically, there are instances when the patient is in coma, but can no longer wake up at all, except improbable miracles (it does happen, but most likely, they can be considered brain dead, while their vital activities are working fine)

[Mirrinus]

Wow, that was a rather powerful episode. The tears started flowing around the 13:40 mark, and they just didn't seem to quit until the credits. Fantastic conclusion to this arc. I'm definitely well-pleased. Not only did we wrap up Fuuko's story admirably, but I felt we made marvelous progress on the whole Tomoya/Nagisa relationship (the part where Fuuko makes them call each other by their first names, I was totally cracking up).

Although, does anyone else think the Engrish in the second insert song at the end was really funny?

[KaneDragon]

Plenty of good points about this episode, so I'll just pick two random ones.


Yay for Fuko getting Tomoya to call Nagisa by first name. o/ Though Nagisa still needs more time...


Kyou "asking out" Tomoya == ;_;

[Divini]

I don't know about you guys, but I had tears in my eyes for almost half of this episode. Everytime I thought they might dry out, another scene would bring fresh ones...

Maybe I'm just too emotional for these things.

I think I figured out the reason though. The four main feelings that would elicit tears from me in an anime would be:

Pain
Sorrow
Happiness
Hope

.... and this episode brought forth all four of them in such a great way. Sayonara Fuuko, even if we forget all about you, we'll never forget these feelings you have touched us with.

And lastly of course:

Spoiler for Ep9 Screentime:

Main Char / Supporting Char
Okazaki Tomoya Furukawa Nagisa Ibuki Fuuko Ibuki Kouko Fujibayashi Kyou Yoshino Yuuske Furukawa Akio Furukawa Sanae Fujibayashi Ryou Sunohara Youhei Botan Koumura Toshio Sagara Misae Mitsui Sakagami Tomoyo Miyazawa Yukine Ichinose Kotomi	20:00 18:03 13:15 3:30 2:42 2:21 2:01 2:01 2:01 1:34 0:47 0:24 0:03 0:02 0:02 0:02 0:02

*Almost everyone had at least a camo this episode

Spoiler for Series Total Screentime:

Main Char / Supporting Char
Okazaki Tomoya Furukawa Nagisa Ibuki Fuuko Sunohara Youhei Fujibayashi Ryou Fujibayashi Kyou Ibuki Kouko Furukawa Sanae Sakagami Tomoyo Furukawa Akio Yoshino Yuuske (Mysterious World) Ichinose Kotomi Botan Miyazawa Yukine Mitsui Koumura Toshio Sagara Misae Okazaki Naoyuki	3:00:56 2:02:55 1:23:10 46:10 17:37 17:01 16:44 15:42 12:08 10:46 4:58 4:46 4:21 3:21 2:40 2:31 2:02 1:47 1:05

*All in all, this arc gave Fuuko more than ample screentime -- almost half of Tomoya's total so far.

*Yes you have now seen 3 hours of the blue-haired guy (and 2 hours of the cute, ahoge girl)

[Ashlotte]

Well even if the arc's tone felt alittle uneven atleast they ended it pretty well. Nagisa and tomoya still hogged up the spotlight though...

But more importantly...KOTOMI next.


P.S. I thought it was kinda wierd to talk about the girl like she was dead during a few parts there...Coma =/ Dead.

[MaxwellDemon]

Whoa... just whoa.

As many said, tears just start flowing at half way point.

I am giving this a 9 just as taelrak said, the music execution and, in my opinion, the song choice could have been better.

Gotta laugh at the preview though. XD

Kotomi - Ryou is a bully?
Ryou - Hai!
Kotomi - Is she bullying?
Ryou - Hai! If you don't mind!
Kotomi - Is Nagisa a bully?
Nagisa - Hai!

[Yushi]

I remember people hinting on how there's a 'mysterious glow' thingy during the 'titles' (forgot the term for it) And now that the arc is over...I STILL don't understand that glow... can anyone explain it to me?

[minhtam1638]

Originally Posted by Yushi

I remember people hinting on how there's a 'mysterious glow' thingy during the 'titles' (forgot the term for it) And now that the arc is over...I STILL don't understand that glow... can anyone explain it to me?

I assume it's for an arc completion, but I am not entirely sure...