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View Poll Results: Fate/Apocrypha - Episode 14 Rating
Perfect 10 1 9.09%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 2 18.18%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 6 54.55%
7 out of 10 : Good 2 18.18%
6 out of 10 : Average 0 0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
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Old 2017-10-08, 07:34   Link #1
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Old 2017-10-08, 07:57   Link #2
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Old 2017-10-10, 00:56   Link #3
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Avicebron had a dream to re-create life after witnessed the carnage & destruction the war has brought in his time. But with Eden the Golem? That was too twisted for his "noble cause", even more so by sacrificing Roche as Eden's vessel. Now that he died with Eden, all of his noble wisdom to create life... wasted.

Great episode of the week, btw. Pretty much it's officially Team Jeanne vs Team Shirou instead of Black vs Red. Really like how Sieg & Mordred tag along to defeat Avicebron/Eden.

Jeanne is developing feelings for Sieg, the ship is sailing now! Whilst I'm getting a diabetes from Sieg x Astolfo.

The 2nd half of Apocrypha - Battle of Rulers:
Team Jeanne: Sieg, Astolfo, Mordred, Kairi, Chiron, Fiore, Claudis, Gordes
Team Shirou: Semiramis, Shakespeare, Karna, Avicebron
Rouge: Atalanta, Achilles, Jack, Reina
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Old 2017-10-10, 07:39   Link #4
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LOL Mondred was like a school yankee negotiating with the school council president in order to wipe out the local delinquents
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Old 2017-10-10, 08:05   Link #5
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LOL Mondred was like a school yankee negotiating with the school council president in order to wipe out the local delinquents
Jeanne the school kaichou/fuuki iinchou summoned a bully for hire, while Sieg is the ordinary boy in trouble & Astolfo's Sieg's girl.

Let's give birth to the new meme!
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Old 2017-10-10, 10:41   Link #6
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While demanding for Jeanne's lunch money (command seals) for payment. xD
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Old 2017-10-10, 11:20   Link #7
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Review recap.

You can tell why Avicebron sided with Shirou in the opening of the episode. Just like him, his goal is to save the world, so why wouldn’t he side with the person who will give him a chance at bringing Eden to the world. He was a misanthropist, something that Shirou also seemed to be given that he considered Sieg becoming more like a person or Servant as a downgrade, but they both seemed to have the same idea in mind, fulfilling it in their own ways.

Mordred also seemed to share some kinship with Sieg in this episode, being pretty buddy-buddy with him despite trying to kill him a few episodes ago. Then again, she can probably relate to him considering her backstory. Her MVP status remains unsullied though, and it’s looking like she’s going to be in it for the long-haul.
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Old 2017-10-10, 11:34   Link #8
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You know if Red never showed up Black would have wiped itself out two times over so far.

If I lived on one of the Fate worlds I would find it incredibly depressing how all of these world shattering events are set up and ran by idiots.
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Old 2017-10-10, 12:13   Link #9
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You know if Red never showed up Black would have wiped itself out two times over so far.

If I lived on one of the Fate worlds I would find it incredibly depressing how all of these world shattering events are set up and ran by idiots.
That is the Point, the actors(magicians et al) arrogance is what drive the plot in the way heroes is far different legends tell us.

Loved those comparation of mordred as a yankee and others, was pretty funny.

We're in the 'servant of the week' phase till we face again Red Ruler for the grial, still what a chapter.
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Old 2017-10-10, 12:15   Link #10
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If Sieg needs to use a command spell when he wants to transform, then that means he can only transform one more time. And if he does, it will cost Astolfo his life since he won't have a master anymore. I guess Jeanne could give him more command spells, but she seems surprisingly stingy (then again, I have no idea how many she carries)

Mordred seems to have changed her mind about Sieg, even being willing to work with him. I like her better when she acts this way.
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It's a good thing Caster was pretty stupid and just walked into a death trap. I mean seriously if he just needed to wait for his golem to become invincible....just stand around quietly. No one will make a move in time! I'll just presume that Caster's master somehow influenced the golem to walk somewhere where it could be killed. He didn't seem that determined when his consciousness disappeared, but at least it's a theory.

Mordred really seems to flip flop between being a pretty good person and not really being that. Agree that she sure got over her issues with Sieg pretty quickly after they fought. But hey, appreciate it when she's got entertaining spunk to her. Probably a good idea to try and negotiate for some command spells since her master was using them like crazy last time.
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Old 2017-10-10, 14:12   Link #12
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LOL Mondred was like a school yankee negotiating with the school council president in order to wipe out the local delinquents
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Jeanne the school kaichou/fuuki iinchou summoned a bully for hire, while Sieg is the ordinary boy in trouble & Astolfo's Sieg's girl.

Let's give birth to the new meme!
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While demanding for Jeanne's lunch money (command seals) for payment. xD
Astolfo the genki aho goodie too shoes very close friend of Sieg who is mistaken for a girl.

Chiron is the gym teacher.
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Old 2017-10-10, 15:04   Link #13
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You know, the Fuyuki grail war only had one event threatening to end the world. This one had a Vampire and a Golem, and we're only a little over halfway through the series. Both from the same side. What next?
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Old 2017-10-10, 15:49   Link #14
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You know, the Fuyuki grail war only had one event threatening to end the world. This one had a Vampire and a Golem, and we're only a little over halfway through the series. Both from the same side. What next?
Well, that's what happens when you have more than double the number of servants. Technically, Caster was a red servant.
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Old 2017-10-10, 16:06   Link #15
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Maybe there is a bit of kingly and diplomatic side to Mordred. She knew exactly when to take advantage of a situation to extort Jeanne. She also seems to have gotten over her problems regarding Sieg.
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Old 2017-10-10, 17:57   Link #16
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It was kinda sweet how Jeanne was so worried about Sieg. I wanna ship them now. ^^
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Old 2017-10-10, 20:51   Link #17
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Not gonna lie, I felt a little bad for Roche there. Maybe it's because Miyuki Sawashiro really brings out the energy in the roles she plays or just the situation genuinely demanding "all the help you can get wherever it comes" otherwise, I'd be annoyed at the constant flip-flopping of Mordred's character.

Aw well, the overall bargaining scene and Sieg's comment at the end was gold.
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Old 2017-10-10, 22:31   Link #18
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You know, the Fuyuki grail war only had one event threatening to end the world. This one had a Vampire and a Golem, and we're only a little over halfway through the series. Both from the same side. What next?
What's coming next, and possibly not from the same side but from a standalone faction, is a cute, little girl walking with her mommy on a serial killing spree around town while having for lunch the literal hearts of magicians, townspeople, homunculi, etc. or whatever being that nourishes her mana happening to cross paths with her.
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Old 2017-10-11, 09:08   Link #19
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Wow, Malkuth might be one of most broken Noble Phantasms in the Fate short of Ea. The whole thing is just one huge self perpetuating Reality Marble you probably need a conceptual weapon to destroy at it's completion.

I really don't understand how Grail Wars get downplayed in Nasuverse when you have things like this can change the nature reality it self. That not even get into the Grail itself. If this is what a minor ritual looks than major one beyond nuts.

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Old 2017-10-11, 23:59   Link #20
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Really happy about the episodes, felt things in the beginning was slow, but that motives are up and about, finding it entertaining in a way that I only see in Fate-stuff.

What was the point of Caster neogiating the safety of his master when he just used him as the core 5 minutes later
Lol @ Ruler's like "Don't believe a boy when he says 'i'm fine'" She knows type-moon males well.

Wonder how many command spells does Ruler have.
Thought it was amusing that Mondred gets teleported by Ruler and fights along with all the ones she fought against 1v1 (minus that loli assassin of course)
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