[Manga] Would you have all the unpopular characters die or developed?

[Yellowflash221]

Originally Posted by tkdtiger

well characters that I think could be killed off with no significant loss would be

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Anko, Kabuto, Shizune, Yamato, Sai, Karin, Suigetso, Juugo

No no. Kabuto is too mysterious. I want to find out more about him before he dies.

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I want to see what's so special about Karin before she dies.

All the others I agree with.

[tkdtiger]

Originally Posted by Yellowflash221

No no. Kabuto is too mysterious. I want to find out more about him before he dies.

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I want to see what's so special about Karin before she dies.

All the others I agree with.

I didn't noticed that this thread had a manga tag on it : P Ok I can understand seeing alittle more of Kabuto...I like how you said before she dies...atleast you want her dead lol

[Medalist]

Karin isn't special she's just another out of the ordinary standard ninja..she can go hop in an oven for al i'd care.

[Yellowflash221]

Originally Posted by tkdtiger

I didn't noticed that this thread had a manga tag on it : P Ok I can understand seeing alittle more of Kabuto...I like how you said before she dies...atleast you want her dead lol

Yeah as soon as I see why Kishimoto hyped her so much she can die along with the rest of his team.

[raikage]

Originally Posted by tkdtiger

well characters that I think could be killed off with no significant loss would be

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Anko, Kabuto, Shizune, Yamato, Sai, Karin, Suigetso, Juugo

That's exactly why they shouldn't be killed off.

If there's no point to their deaths, then why do it? All it really does, then, is take away pages that could have been going to something else, and come across as a cheap shock-value killing.

Imagine how much it would shake up the Naruto fans if, say, Hinata was killed.
Someone who was finally getting over her problems, starting on the path to becoming something better...killed. A dream denied. And if they're willing to kill the one who seemed to be Naruto's future love interest -- who's safe?

This is not to say that I want her dead, but it would be a meaningful death that impacts the story and the readers.

[epyon96]

Originally Posted by raikage

That's exactly why they shouldn't be killed off.

If there's no point to their deaths, then why do it? All it really does, then, is take away pages that could have been going to something else, and come across as a cheap shock-value killing.

Imagine how much it would shake up the Naruto fans if, say, Hinata was killed.
Someone who was finally getting over her problems, starting on the path to becoming something better...killed. A dream denied. And if they're willing to kill the one who seemed to be Naruto's future love interest -- who's safe?

This is not to say that I want her dead, but it would be a meaningful death that impacts the story and the readers.

LoLz. I forgot about her. I kind of want her to die. I think Naruto needs to cater to more mature audiences. Especially since they went out of their way in the anime to seperate the first Naruto and the Wind Chronicals and given the fact that most of the characters aged and matured.

It may be a cheap attempt at shock value but all the current shonen mainstream anime lack it. Bleach is starting to see some deaths and I believe it facilitates plot movements forward rather than just shock (however, it seems like Orihime may set it back some with her latest development). I think Naruto needs more especially for a supposedly ninja anime that likes to emphasize that people die in combat all the time.

[MobiuS]

Death used to be an audience - captivating tool till Kish decided to misuse it and nail Orochimaru. He fcked up bigtime and my take is we dont need any more deaths till I get some background story and explanations.

[epyon96]

Originally Posted by MobiuS

Death used to be an audience - captivating tool till Kish decided to misuse it and nail Orochimaru. He fcked up bigtime and my take is we dont need any more deaths till I get some background story and explanations.

Your reasoning is strange. You claim Kishimoto messed up one character's death and all of a sudden, characters in the future cannot be killed because you believe Kishimoto will mess them all up? Suppose you are right in your claim that Orochimaru's death was handled poorly. So far, Kishimoto's track record of handling deaths has been relatively positive: Haku, Zabuzza, Sasori, Hidan, Kakuza, Asuma, Sound Ninjas, Kimi, etc. It is generally agreed by everyone that those deaths were done decently and moved the story forward. With that said, why would you want to punish Kishimoto due to one badly staged death?

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My personal opinion is that the death was fine. Orochimaru's character was getting stale and semi invincible. Especially in light of the fight with Naruto where Naruto tore him to pieces and he manages to reassemble himself together.

[Ulquiorra]

Sometimes I wish Kishimoto cut the main "kid" cast in half and concentrate on developing fewer characters. You could get rid of Ino, Chouji, Kiba, Shino, Tenten, Sai and Kankuro and probably not even notice they are gone.

No need to worry about Team Hebi taking up space. Sasuke’s group, with the exception of him, will join the Sound 5 in the dumpster soon enough. The Akatsuki were created to be killed.

[KiNA]

No vote.. because I agree with Hunter.. and Rai

Death to the unpopular ones do nothing.. they are part of the BG, developable but not essential.. Maybe there would be time when they get Shikamaru's treatment later on?

Death to the popular ones.. yes, if done right.. That being said, Sakura (as loathsome she is to some peoples ) are almost immune to death .. Jiraiya, Tsunade, Kakashi... and to an extent IMO, Sai .. isn't. Just dont let they suffer lame death scene like Oro -.-

And I lost my manga thread lurking coat with this post ;-;

[Medalist]

Kill Kakashi, Naruto, and all of Akatsuki...should be fun after that, no?

[Yellowflash221]

Originally Posted by epyon96

Your reasoning is strange. You claim Kishimoto messed up one character's death and all of a sudden, characters in the future cannot be killed because you believe Kishimoto will mess them all up? Suppose you are right in your claim that Orochimaru's death was handled poorly. So far, Kishimoto's track record of handling deaths has been relatively positive: Haku, Zabuzza, Sasori, Hidan, Kakuza, Asuma, Sound Ninjas, Kimi, etc. It is generally agreed by everyone that those deaths were done decently and moved the story forward. With that said, why would you want to punish Kishimoto due to one badly staged death?

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My personal opinion is that the death was fine. Orochimaru's character was getting stale and semi invincible. Especially in light of the fight with Naruto where Naruto tore him to pieces and he manages to reassemble himself together.

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Hidan, Kakuzu and Sasori's deaths were messed up. IMO
Akatsuki is supposed to be an organization of S-Ranked shinobi's yet Hidan got beaten so easily and didn't show anything that made him exceptional at all.

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Kakuzu got pwned by Naruto is no time. Kakuzu should have been able to keep up with Naruto and although I agree it was his time to die Kakuzu should have gotten a much better death.

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Sasori had a somewhat good death in my opinion but Kishimoto shouldn't have let him just stand there and get hit by the puppets. It just seems so wrong that he didn't avoid the puppets if he could. Aww....poor Sasori. Why do the good die young?

[epyon96]

Originally Posted by Yellowflash221

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Hidan, Kakuzu and Sasori's deaths were messed up. IMO
Akatsuki is supposed to be an organization of S-Ranked shinobi's yet Hidan got beaten so easily and didn't show anything that made him exceptional at all.

Spoiler for Read it:

Kakuzu got pwned by Naruto is no time. Kakuzu should have been able to keep up with Naruto and although I agree it was his time to die Kakuzu should have gotten a much better death.

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Sasori had a somewhat good death in my opinion but Kishimoto shouldn't have let him just stand there and get hit by the puppets. It just seems so wrong that he didn't avoid the puppets if he could. Aww....poor Sasori. Why do the good die young?

Do we still need these stupid manga tags given the manga heading in the topic?

Anyways, I thought those deaths were handled fine. They have to die somehow. Shikamaru is not your average ninja. He is genius beyond genius. Kakuza fight could have been handled a bit better but Naruto did pull something quite unexpected.

Bare in mind that the last time Naruto hit someone with the Rasangan head on - Kabuto - the other party was still able to heal. Kakuza might have felt something similar especially given his ability to reconnect limbs and organs, etc.

[kikko_s]

IMO, Neji and Chouji should already be dead. That would be more consistent with the world of ninja that was introduced in the very beginning of Naruto. I mean, new characters are being introduced anyway, and it's getting too crowded. It would've made the show better, I think.

[Yellowflash221]

Originally Posted by epyon96

Do we still need these stupid manga tags given the manga heading in the topic?

[sarcasm]Lol. I totally saw that.[/sarcasm]

Originally Posted by epyon96

Anyways, I thought those deaths were handled fine. They have to die somehow. Shikamaru is not your average ninja. He is genius beyond genius. Kakuza fight could have been handled a bit better but Naruto did pull something quite unexpected.

I'm not saying Shikamaru shouldn't have defeated him but for an S-Ranked ninja Hidan didn't seem that exceptional.

Originally Posted by epyon96

Bare in midn that the last time Naruto hit someone with the Rasangan head on - Kabuto - the other party was still able to heal. Kakuza might have felt something similar especially given his ability to reconnect limbs and organs, etc.

Eh whatever Kakuzu should have put up a good fight before getting pwned.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by raikage

That's exactly why they shouldn't be killed off.

If there's no point to their deaths, then why do it? All it really does, then, is take away pages that could have been going to something else, and come across as a cheap shock-value killing.

There is a point even for useless junk like Ino & Chouji sadly proved to be : once they're dead they don't waste time anymore and then you can use their death to build additional background for the living ones. Two birds with one stone.

[KiNA]

As of right now, Shikamaru have already get his power up, so I think Chouji is pretty safe from being killed off to build off Shika's character.

Ino on the other hand, do Sakura need more flesh out? ... Actually, I dont mind that at all, seeing how Sakura are connected very close to her

[epyon96]

Originally Posted by Kira_Naruto

As of right now, Shikamaru have already get his power up, so I think Chouji is pretty safe from being killed off to build off Shika's character.

Ino on the other hand, do Sakura need more flesh out? ... Actually, I dont mind that at all, seeing how Sakura are connected very close to her

Easy solution is to have Diedara throw one big bomb that takes out both Sakura and Ino

They fullfill their destiny to not lose to each other.

[Yellowflash221]

Originally Posted by epyon96

Easy solution is to have Diedara throw one big bomb that takes out both Sakura and Ino

They fullfill their destiny to not lose to each other.

Deidara's big bomb takes out a village. It might kill more than Ino and Sakura.>_<
Hmmm.....unless he lured them to a secluded area. Yes that would work..... >_>

[MobiuS]

Originally Posted by epyon96

With that said, why would you want to punish Kishimoto due to one badly staged death?

The manga plot has been spiraling downwards like crazy. Back then, he did a good job balancing characters, doing the right things at the right time and any problematic stuff he clearly avoided it so we forget them. That is ... until recently. Him trying to tie up loose ends is actually ripping the story apart even further.