2008-05-25, 23:20 | Link #121 | |
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Regardless, if you look at the historical advertisements for smoking, it's so utterly beating-over-my-head obvious that the message is: smoking is cool. |
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2008-05-25, 23:40 | Link #122 | |
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2008-05-26, 00:23 | Link #123 |
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Symptoms? hm, IIRC, it was primarily anxiety, like I can't stay still and needing to put something in my mouth. I began to eat a lot to calm it., but shortly after deciding to quit I went to visit my grandparents in Osaka, that made it a lot easier. Seeing old friends, being with the grandparents, basically getting away from everything that was stressing me out.
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2008-05-26, 06:21 | Link #124 | |
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Much like asbestos, people really didn't understand what this stuff could do. Of course, asbestos is illegal now. And it's not addictive. Response to second remark - That's an extremely racist comment, and it makes about as much sense as saying that white people created AIDS to kill black people. There are three legal types of drugs in the US - alcohol, tobacco, and pharmaceutical. We fought the alcohol battle and lost. We're hit and miss with tobacco. We rely on pharmaceutical but try and curb abuse. Everything else is illegal, except for medical marijuana (and even then it's only legal in some states). And we're losing our ass on the "war on drugs". Don't try and pin this on whites. Pin this on people who gain profit from preying on someone else's poor decision making. To fight the battle, you can either try and cut down on those who prey, or empower those who make poor decisions with better knowledge. I might be going out on a limb here but I doubt the former is working as well as the latter. That's what makes youth so attractive to pushers though. Start them young and you'll hook them for life, there's always youth to pull from and preying on young people who don't know any better is just too damn easy.
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2008-05-26, 17:20 | Link #125 |
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going slightly off the trend this thread is moving..
im sorry to get a little angry about this, but ive heard a lot of ' i look down on smokers ', or i ' completely dissaprove of smoking ' etc etc. this is exactly the type of thing that i thought i would NOT find on this forum. yes, its dangerous and its bad for health, we know that ( and so do a LOT of other things that we do everyday ), its written on the bloody boxes for heavens sake, and no this doesnt make all smokers freakin retarded either. and no, you dont have to PITY them either! Its peoples choice, let them do as they wish, frankly speaking none of us have ANY right ot say ' oh sorry you shouldnt do this shouldnt do that '. we dont decide whats right or wrong. zz.. ok now ive calmed down a bit. look, we all know the tobacco industry makes billions, and yeah, it drags in a lot of suckers. but for heavens sake, lets try and not make 'smokers' a generalization? ( please dont say after this, no i wasnt etc etc, i DONT mean any offense to any particular person ) and im sorry if anyone meant otherwise, but you cant exactly blame me for seeing it that way either. why im saying this here, or why i did get a little angry about some of these responses, because theres been a big discussion going on on this very forum about how ANNOYING and downright STUPID it is to stereotype people who watch anime. how are we any different if we generalize people as 'smokers' or 'junkies' just because they smoke or take drugs once in a while. hell a lot of my best friends do, and i do stop them when it gets out of hand, but its certainly no reason to look down on them. whether anyone meant it or not, just for future reference, lets not try and sterotype smokers here? cos then were just as bad as those morons who might have stereotyped some of us. Last edited by oompa loompa; 2008-05-26 at 17:37. |
2008-05-26, 18:59 | Link #126 | |
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@oompa loompa Stereotypes are made because they are common. We should not immediately assume people under certain groups fall under said stereotypes, but when you meet people, the stereotype trait is likely to be in them. That's another subject though, and I won't get into it too much. I'll just be a moron in my thinking. I consider it irrational, people tend to act irrationally in life, I feel we should help to protect people form themselves. If there is something wrong with that, then I say just legalize all drugs. People can do whatever they please. @ Solace If that's what you call being racist, well sorry, I guess I'll have to be racist "according to you." Honestly, point out for me what doesn't make sense about it. Tobacco companies are owned by white people, cigarettes happen to be more harmful than say marijuana. I don't think this is any small coincidence.
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2008-05-26, 19:08 | Link #127 |
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Well, life is a balance of rationality and irrationality. Depends on which side you lean to at times. Just don't stay at any one side for too long.
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2008-05-26, 19:13 | Link #129 |
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It's racist because it's a sweeping generalization. It's the same as saying that all illegal drugs are made by non-whites. Do you know, for a fact, that all people who own and run tobacco companies are white? Do you know, for a fact, that the government only allows certain drugs to be legal because they are manufactured by white people?
If you can show evidence to these claims, I'll retract my statements and accept that you are not making baseless racist comments. Until then, I'll assume you've never learned anything about the history of alcohol and drug manufacture and use and the spread of it throughout cultures in history.
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2008-05-26, 19:25 | Link #130 |
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alright guys no need to bring up race in smoking because race has nothing to do with owning a tobacco company. By saying and quote
means that "white" people are can do anything the hell they want, damn those white people (sarcasm) remember Race is still a sensitive subject but back to the original topic people can smoke if they want to and when i see those Stop Smoking AD's i just like to laugh about how smoking can affect you, believe me i was smoking and someone were to ask me to stop i wouldn't and why? I wouldn't want someone telling me what to do, let me smoke i know the risk's |
2008-05-26, 19:37 | Link #132 | |
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Last time I checked, Marlboro was one of the more popular brands in the U.S., and that's not a Korean brand.
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2008-05-26, 19:39 | Link #133 | |
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I was trying to refute Reckoner's possible assumption that most of the world's tobacco is done by the "white" people. |
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2008-05-26, 19:55 | Link #134 | ||
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Now it is not fact that America only legalizes drugs made by white people, it is just one of my speculations that I think holds to be true. And I think it would be kind of funny if I actually was racist against half my heritage, I'm Mexican and Mexico happens to be the king of drug trafficking in Latin America... supplying plenty of illegal drugs in the U.S. @ KSG I should clarify that I mean in the U.S. Sorry about that.
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2008-05-26, 20:07 | Link #137 |
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Umm... Tobacco is grown in most of Latin America (*especially* in Mexico), just the same as marijuana and cocaine. And you'd be fooling yourself if you believed that the people handling the distribution of illegal drugs in the US are Mexican immigrants or otherwise non-white (thus, as I deduct from your post, less powerful) people.
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2008-05-26, 20:10 | Link #138 |
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i'm mexican and i'm not ashamed if what you say IS true but what prove do you have that Mexico is the "King" of drug trafficking in Latin America?
Back to topic we are just talking about smoking here people, drugs can be another topic or added to this one by a thread change but then again i'm not one to ask of that |
2008-05-26, 22:20 | Link #140 | ||
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If it were to be associated with Caucasians, then the reason would have to do with racism that plagued society in the past. Caucasians were on top, and thus they constituted the wealthy and the business makers. Minority groups, until relatively recently, haven't had the resources to form large, powerful companies.
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