2011-08-19, 14:26 | Link #23801 | |
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But, if Yasu's indeed female wouldn't that invalidate the "Battler is the culprit" theory formulated in End of the Golden Witch? Then, this is my bet: AuraTwilight say it in red that Yasu's a female. P.S. I've always wanted to say that quote. *lol* |
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2011-08-19, 15:20 | Link #23802 |
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I think people just say ''She'' for reference, saying ''he/she'' every time would get really annoying, and while I personally think Yasu IS female(although maybe she started off as a male, point being she lacks a penis), I can't prove it, so I just use ''she'' most of the time. Also, do Yandere's have to be female? Confused at what you said there.
But I still like the idea that Yasu looks like Kanon physically, and can disguise herself as Shannon due to his girlish figure, fake breasts. Due to Kanon's looks, the gender issue can still be there, I mean she can still be female even if she looked like Kanon. Last edited by cronnoponno; 2011-08-19 at 16:05. |
2011-08-19, 15:37 | Link #23803 |
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What bothers me the most about Yasu being originally male is the fact that then he'd be the victim of a forced feminization by the hands of Genji.
But I guess I shouldn't be that surprised considering we already have a rapist (Kinzo) a murderer (Natsuhi) and a child abductor (Rudolf).
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2011-08-19, 16:12 | Link #23805 | |
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Why does Lion only exist in a world where "Natsuhi accepted" him? Because she would've been holding the damn baby herself, probably indoors, with toys, away from any conveniently unsteady cliffside path. XD |
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2011-08-19, 16:35 | Link #23806 | |
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2011-08-19, 16:45 | Link #23807 | ||
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I think an attorney would have a hard time making it pass as manslaughter, it's more like a non premeditated murder, I'm not even sure you could say Natsuhi was insane, she was just stressed. Quote:
As for Rudolf, he took Battler away from his real mother. This is no joke, it's a serious crime. This was also confirmed in EP8 when you solve Rudolf's riddle... or was it Kyrie's? Well either one.
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2011-08-19, 16:45 | Link #23808 |
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I believe the ''acceptance/denial'' life-or-death is critical to the point of the story. If Lion could survive while being rejected by Natsuhi then it'd destroy the whole meaning of a lot of things I believe, logically yeah, Natsuhi hating her baby isn't grounds for an immediate death, but what if it didn't happen?
I also agree that the baby incident was an accident on Natsuhi's part, I'd like to believe that she hasn't actually ''murdered'' anyone and that she's probably the most faithful character in this series. How is telling a servant to fuck off and then the servant ending up dead after that mean she was the one at fault? Did she literally shove them off or something? Almost positive she didn't even though she wished it. EDIT: Oh yeah, Rudolph did do that. |
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2011-08-19, 17:52 | Link #23812 |
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Well you can have your own interpretation, but would you say my interpretation is far fetched?
Natsuhi said it outright and Beatrice said it was true. That's more than enough for me.
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2011-08-19, 17:59 | Link #23814 |
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I'd wish Natsuhi didn't do that myself, but I'm used to try my best at ignoring my biases when I try to assess a situation.
It frankly seems a lot strange that Natsuhi would actually do that since she wasn't depicted as a person capable of murder, but then again I realize that's something Ryuukishi can do. Just like how everyone happily help Rena hiding a corpse with smiles on their faces in Higurashi. I think Ryuukishi... well... I think he undervalues a bit the gravity of some crimes if compared to what normally society does. Then again maybe it's because it's just fiction.
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2011-08-19, 18:14 | Link #23815 |
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Hi, dropping by a bit, just wanting to let something off my chest that I just realized recently.
I didn't really think about it at first, but if Kinzo is both Beatrice3/Yasu's father AND grandfather, that means Beatrice2 was both Yasu's mother AND older sister right? It also means Yasu is the youngest of the siblings AND the cousins' uncle/aunt. My God, Kinzo is awesome.
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2011-08-19, 18:24 | Link #23816 | ||
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2011-08-19, 18:50 | Link #23817 | ||
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Personally, I do not lack for love of Natsuhi. She's one of my favorite characters and, the horrible 1986 result notwithstanding, I don't think she should be "brought to justice" for her crime because she already bears the full weight of her sin. It would only cause unneeded strife to those around her. Quote:
Yes, Yasu's gender is female. I think her sex is male, because if Yasu's sex was female then there wouldn't be so much gender confusion in the first place. |
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2011-08-19, 19:08 | Link #23819 | |
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Just because Natsuhi-as-a-character admits something doesn't mean Natsuhi-the-person ever did, if indeed there was even anything to admit to.
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2011-08-19, 19:17 | Link #23820 | ||
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I go with the assumption that since this is the last episode and those scenes are a reward it's basically Ryuukishi himself talking through his characters. You have to admit that if all that stuff never happened it wouldn't have any narrative value whatsoever.
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