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Old 2012-08-14, 23:13   Link #3341
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Well, this is certainly something I'd like to see when I get my hand on a brown item.
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Old 2012-08-14, 23:41   Link #3342
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I have managed to get half a dozen brown items in my playthroughs. If they are going to be usable in future drops I would be happy.

But the first thing I would do after the next patch is to finally finish leveling my Witch Doctor. I love the pet class.
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Old 2012-08-14, 23:44   Link #3343
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if all dropped legends will be beastly like that, people would be happy. but if those are the perfect rolls that rarely happen then its still gonna be crap for most people.
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Old 2012-08-14, 23:44   Link #3344
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The fastest legit way to sell gold is not directly via AH. The market sell price of gold is lower than Blizzard allowed. You only get around that by buying gems and then sell the gem in the RMAH. (This is why gems are actually cheaper than the crafting cost. This is used as a foreign exchange medium. Gems will sell instantly while gold will NEVER sell.)

This is why gold isn't selling on the RMAH at all; no one will buy it at the minimum price.
hmm, what gems in particular do u suggest?
star?
emeralds?
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Old 2012-08-15, 00:57   Link #3345
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hmm, what gems in particular do u suggest?
star?
emeralds?
It doesn't really matter, if you just want to change your gold into money. Just look up the RMAH price of gems and make sure the gold price for them in the normal AH isn't too out there.

All levels of high quality gems sell instantly at recommended listed price. It depends on how much gold you got. You should be able to work out the loss from taxes yourself. Just remember that you are trying to sell the gold less than the RMAH allow you to, because that's what they are really worth in the real world. Inflation is really bad.
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Old 2012-08-15, 01:03   Link #3346
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Do not cash out right now.

If you wanted to cash out, you should have done it a few weeks ago. Now the economy is utterly crapped and items are worth a lot less. The main thing was when Gold sold on the RMAH, that it really did sell for 0.25 for 100k. That was nice, but that opportunity is clearly gone now.

I recommend holding out until 1.04.

Also, socketed a high end item with a high end gem can sometimes get around those nasty commodity RMAH fees, depending on how well you're selling.
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Old 2012-08-15, 01:07   Link #3347
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Yeah, if the market revives by the new patch, it would certainly be a good idea to cash out then. Right now people like me are just waiting and not playing, so there are less buyers.
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Old 2012-08-15, 01:15   Link #3348
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damn, i basically stoped a while ago, had all the gold just sitting around.
was thinking of cashing out but never did.

so i should just sit on the gold i have for now?
do u guys think the gold price will recover?

ps - how much is gold really worth now?
someone told me $1.3 for 1mil
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Old 2012-08-15, 02:06   Link #3349
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im sure there are still people buying via rmah? you'll get 18usd/10m. it might not sell the first time, but it should sooner or later.
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Old 2012-08-15, 02:18   Link #3350
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im sure there are still people buying via rmah? you'll get 18usd/10m. it might not sell the first time, but it should sooner or later.
My point was that you can't LIST the gold for that much real money. Blizzard mysteriously forced a minimum bid for Gold to 25 cents per 100,000. You can't go lower directly.
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Old 2012-08-15, 04:10   Link #3351
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and why would you want to sell for 10usd/10m when you can sell for 25usd/10m (18usd when it arrives in your paypal after the 2 15% tax)? its just a matter of luck/time when your 10m gets sold over the billions if not trillions of gold out there at 0.25/100k.

im sure a good portion of buyers still prefer the RMAH over 3rd party sellers.
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Old 2012-08-15, 04:32   Link #3352
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and why would you want to sell for 10usd/10m when you can sell for 25usd/10m (18usd when it arrives in your paypal after the 2 15% tax)? its just a matter of luck/time when your 10m gets sold over the billions if not trillions of gold out there at 0.25/100k.

im sure a good portion of buyers still prefer the RMAH over 3rd party sellers.
hey why is it 2 x 15%?
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Old 2012-08-15, 05:32   Link #3353
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Well, that was quite an experience. After helping Archon Wing with Siegebreaker, we tried Inferno Whimsyshire again and encountered... four TINY boss unicorns. Which proceeded to kick our arses, as it seemed that they REALLY were a team (aptly labeled Team Unicorn) of four boss/gold monsters.
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Old 2012-08-15, 05:51   Link #3354
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Indeed. Got my resists up to 940 but against desecrator/waller it might as well be -1000

Though base armor is a mere 5900; I need to improve that, but that looks expensive.

Also, I got owned. I bought a 700k ammy and didn't found out it didn't really help, so I tried to sell it back. Unfortunately I was also planning to sell another crappy amulet for 150k, and accidentally swapped the prices. So the good ammy sold for 150k and the crappy ammy is still here. >.>

So now I only have 300k left and nothing.
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Old 2012-08-15, 06:05   Link #3355
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and why would you want to sell for 10usd/10m when you can sell for 25usd/10m (18usd when it arrives in your paypal after the 2 15% tax)? its just a matter of luck/time when your 10m gets sold over the billions if not trillions of gold out there at 0.25/100k.

im sure a good portion of buyers still prefer the RMAH over 3rd party sellers.
That depends on how long you are willing to wait. People who just want to cash out and never touch Diablo again would want to do it ASAP.
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Old 2012-08-15, 06:16   Link #3356
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There's just too many suppliers and not enough buyers atm. I think it'll get worse as time passes.

Without a proper gold sink, only a fool is going to pay 0.25 per 100,000 gold. The inital burst in gold sales pretty much went bust-- now people know better.
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Old 2012-08-15, 07:23   Link #3357
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4 yellow/rare unicorns...? never heard of it. that's overkill. 4 champs is bad enough.

you sell it at 10m for 25usd.
someone buys it. blizz tax 15% for the sale since gold is considered commodity.
21.25 usd is left, if you put it in battle.net balance you get this.
if you want to cash out to paypal, you pay another 15%.
so in your paypal the amount you finally receive is only 18.06.
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Old 2012-08-15, 15:12   Link #3358
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But like I said, the thing is that the minimum price isn't sustainable at all. Let's take an extreme example-- essences. They sell for a minimum of 0.25-- when you ask for a price that's too high, some people may do it at the start out of curiosity, but it's not something you can rely on.

Also, I improved performance by finding movement speed. I didn't before since finding my original monk boots was a pain, and it was a pain here with only 3 filters. But yea, with my current budget of "whatever you can find", it just goes without saying that facetanking act 3/4 is a a pipe dream, so a lot of stats (resists/damage) were sacrificed for the boots but at least the new ones have fancy life regen and a tiny bit of life with the movement speed. I also lost a good deal of gold find, but then again boots with gold find and no movement speed is just sort of an oxymoron anyways.

At this point it's now about finding more dps (most likely crit) and armor rating. Sadly, I'll need some actual gold to do this.

Also this dropped in Act 3. Intrestingly, the eite guy was called "Alot" though he sadly this isn't alot.

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Old 2012-08-15, 15:37   Link #3359
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I've found that legendary as well. But since the legendary changes are coming, I've salvaged all of mines into fiery brimstones.
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Old 2012-08-15, 18:32   Link #3360
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I don't think you can get a brimstone from that; it's not high enough. :S
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