2011-09-19, 07:09 | Link #1 |
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Maybe Magic...
I was browsing TVTropes and saw that there were hardly any anime/manga in an interesting trope called "Maybe Magic, Maybe Not". In this setup, you have a series that certainly seems to be supernatural or metaphysical scifi, but we're left guessing for most if not all of the story whether that's actually the case. Anything that absolutely did happen could be coincidence or explainable within real world parameters. Anything that absolutely couldn't have happened without magic, ghosts, gods, aliens, etc. is very shadowed and questionable, so that it could be a mistake or one of the characters' hallucination/delusions. Preferrably the question of whether it's real or not should be a major point. The most significant example in anime/manga, which is already listed at TvTropes, is Umineko no Naku Koro Ni, which after a couple introductory episodes becomes a near-eternal battle of wits between a man who refuses to believe in magic and a witch who needs to prove to him that there's no other explanation in order to survive.
One scenario I've seen a few times in other media that interests me is criminal investigations dealing with impossible, supernatural defense. In these, the start and/or end of the story contains someone who's been arrested for some heinous crime, and for whom all surface evidence points to his guilt, and his insanity based on his absurd claims. However, some third party is investigating, prosecuting or defending the case who starts to see that once you go below the bare surface, evidence doesn't match up at all, and some evidence or subsequent events are unexplainable unless the accused really was on to something. Again though, for most if not all of the story nothing absolutely supernatural happens that can't be explained with science and psychiatry; all that we have is a certain number of impossible clues. Any examples? |
2011-09-19, 11:01 | Link #2 |
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The only thing close that comes to mind is Ghost Hunt. IIRC some of the hauntings seem like they're real, but in the end there's some complicated natural explanation for them. That doesn't last though; lots of magic towards the end.
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2011-09-19, 15:20 | Link #5 | |
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Not an anime, but this movie sounds like exactly what you're looking for. It's available on DVD and Blu-ray from Amazon.
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2011-09-19, 18:49 | Link #6 |
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Mouryou no Hako comes to mind, save for various sci-fi elements left as is. A hugely underrated yet surprisingly satisfying anime.
This suggestion may come off as odd, but you can view most of the Black★Rock Shooter OVA as a metaphorical representation of the girls' internal/external conflicts and of what's actually going on, at least that's what I did. I never really want to suggest Ookami Kakushi, but it does indeed apply pretty well. Edit: I also want to strongly recommend Gosick, this one fits well, although more in an arc fashion than the entire series.
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2011-09-19, 21:43 | Link #7 |
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I don't know how I could have forgotten Mouryou no Hako. You'll have to look hard to find all the episodes, though. The ones subbed by Aoi have dropped off the regular trackers, but there's a complete version out there on a site I cannot link to.
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2011-09-25, 05:59 | Link #8 | |
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Also, what part of Gosick fits here? Most or all of the "magic" elements seemed to be quickly unraveled and dismissed. Also, I'm looking for anime/manga, I can find American movies easily enough usually. Finally, while I referred to the trope "maybe magic, maybe not", I'm including science fiction in the sort of stuff I'm looking for. It doesn't matter to me whether we're dealing with fantasy magic elements or more scifi-type stuff like alien civilizations, wormholes and psychics. For an example, one semi-movie I saw that made me think of this had a guy find out that his apartment had a gate to a parallel universe, from which a witch was manipulating him and trying to take control of him. Spoiler:
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2011-09-25, 07:08 | Link #9 |
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Occult Academy, Paranoia Agent, and Higurashi no Naku Koro ni? might be a good one, otherwise as people already suggested Denpa Onna to Seishin Otoko.
Gosick, would only loosely fit the bill as if you take account of the political stuggle. Mythical Detective Loki is arguable since the main character is stated as Norse deity Loki as series started despise the way he solves the case involves some unknown element. Though if that series does fit the bill for you then Majin Tantei Nōgami Neuro and Kuroshitsuji (Black Butler) would similar to that. Also if you haven't seen it, Death Note might loosely fit the bell as well. While it's similar to above three title in that there is supernatural character in it, but the main story is how normal cops connects what's happening to the main character and to the supernatural component of it.
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