2010-08-16, 20:52 | Link #141 | ||
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However, I still don't know if I want to roll on the whole "since Lyon exists and doesn't exist at the same time, s(he) can be see along with ShKanon". If we go by the idea that ShKanon is Yasu's creation, then: If happy world Lyon exists, then ShKanon shouldn't, and if happy world Lyon doesn't exist then Shkanon should. So, if this is a mixture of both worlds, then the person we're looking at should be happy world Lyon and sad world Lyon (i.e. Yasu) at the same time, thus this person shouldn't be able to be seen around ShKanon, no? I guess I'm just over-thinking it.
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2010-08-16, 22:03 | Link #146 | |
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This is my problem with the tea party and Kyrie's comments. We are never led to believe in the past episodes that Kyrie hated Ange, only that she held resentment towards Battler. So this game suddenly turning around and showing that doesn't make sense to me. Rudolf is even more confusing because how he seems to be okay with Kyrie slaughtering people, but in EP 6 he was crying because he thought Kyrie and Battler were dead. |
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2010-08-16, 22:16 | Link #147 |
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Well in the Sea of Kakera their maybe a world where Kyrie and Rudolf resent everyone, after all Bern takes the smallest possibility and turns it into a reality for her own amusement. They may only have a 0.00001% chance of happening but that's all she needs.
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2010-08-16, 22:19 | Link #148 |
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Notice that this still requires for Bernkastel to break the starting condition boundaries commonly believed to be imposed on Beatrice's game.
After all, they don't just have to start hating everybody now, they need to have always hated everyone.
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2010-08-16, 22:26 | Link #149 |
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Maybe they have always hated everyone, but this motive is suppressed in the other episodes out of fear (that others are dying around them first, or for other reason X). Perhaps Bern's world without love has the conditions needed for their hatred to boil over.
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2010-08-16, 22:29 | Link #150 | |
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If they aren't, well, that changes a bloody lot.
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2010-08-16, 22:30 | Link #151 | |
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2010-08-16, 22:33 | Link #152 | |
do you know ベアトリーチェ様?
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2010-08-16, 22:35 | Link #153 |
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Yes, after all this is Bern we are talking about and it's something she would do if she got some amusement out of it. Nothing like making a girl think her parents where sick bastards who hated her and her brother and couldn't wait to kill her family and then try and pass it off as the Absolute Truth of what went down on Rokkenjima.
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2010-08-16, 22:41 | Link #154 | |
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If the starting conditions are not identical up until a certain observable point in time, the game records cannot be used jointly to solve the mystery, as they refer to worlds which diverge at an unknown point of time in the past, and none of them contains sufficient information to be solved alone. So for it to be solvable we have to assume they diverge no earlier than a certain time that is shown as something other than a flashback - which is early morning of the 4th. Leon's world very clearly disregards this rule, and even though it is mostly used as a storytelling device, breaking this rule at all casts doubt on the rest of the testimony.
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2010-08-16, 23:03 | Link #156 |
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Oliver, wasn't it already assumed that EP6 wasn't even a real game (Battler had discovered the truth in EP5), but just Battler giving Erika a chance to redeem herself? If so, then perhaps Bern hasn't "stolen" Beatrice's game board at all, but just created her own version. If so, she has access to create a point of divergence at any point in time...
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2010-08-17, 00:15 | Link #159 | |
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Naw, it couldn't of been the chubby man. Too obvious. XD
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