Location: Up north where everyone is happy, jolly, and kind.
Wow! Two more days left! I guess I'll have to come up with theory #2 by tomorrow, then.
Spoiler for Recitals:
Like in the original story, Jessica has asthma, and this is somehow significant to the murders.
Eva's plan is the same as Natsuhi's. (This is a stretch, but I don't think anyone has asked this before.)
Rudolph has a plan that is not clearly stated in the story, it is the same as Natsuhi's.
George and Shannon's relationship is somehow related to the murders.
George and Shannon's relationship is somehow related to Eva's or Natushi's plan.
At least one of the servants died naturally.
Any of the servants would be able to drug the family's meal without anyone else noticing.
Pride is part of the culprit's motive.
Revenge is part of the culprit's motive.
Hatred is part of the culprit's motive.
Jealously is part of the culprit's motive.
If the culprit tells or tricks you into doing something, and you do it, you are considered an 'accomplice' whether you are willing or not.
The murder was planned.
If so, the culprit made some sort of mistake while executing the plan.
At least one of the deaths was not originally planned by the culprit.
The culprit or one of the accomplices drugged the tea.
Maria and/or Battler were tricked at least once during the events by the culprit or one of the accomplices.
At least one of the culprit's accomplices died in the course of the story.
-the shadow who was behind nanjo during the 2nd twilight is one of kinzo's children.
-at least one of the deaths is suicide.
-If ever someone committed suicide, the culprit/accomplice/murderer set it up to look like a murder.
-someone is addicted to drugs.
-the stakes did not really kill all of the servants, it was something else.
-maria "sees" the witch when she's drugged.
We can now know for SURE that Genji and Rosa are accomplices that work with Kinzo and Natsuhi. Krauss must have been killed by Kinzo.
Natsuhi has an illness that seems to be able to kill her. She has a plan for the interest of the family and it is related to the fortune. More than likely she wants to split the money evenly between the siblings. Her accomplices include the people of the First Twilight and others;
Hatsuhi
Jessica
George
Hideyoshi
Kyrie
Battler
Genji
Kinzo
HOWEVER, Krauss and Eva are both extremely greedy. Using information regarding Natsuhi's health as blackmail against Krauss, she threatens his control of all his assets. Rudolf doesn't need alot of money but requires a generally large sum.
Under them, they have control over the servants (except Genji and maybe Shannon and Ghoda)
The servants were brided to follow instructions and would later be killed off.
Nanjo is under them and is kept alive inorder to be used as an authority.
Kumasawa DID visit Natsuhi after lunch where she killed her. Jessecia would arrive in to also be killed.
Battler and George were not murdered instead they faked their deaths along with Kyrie and Hideyoshi through use of the drug in their teas. Because of this we KNOW that Rosa did so inorder to help them fake their deaths and decieve Nanjo. Later on Rosa would bring food to the forests for the four.
Eva becomes incredibly paranoid at this time and becomes extremely distrustful of everyone else.
Krauss goes to confront Kinzo with the gun, but is instead shot by Kinzo.
Intending to trace their steps and make it so that Kinzo will not be killed, Genji and Rosa disposes of Krauss' body and brings Kinzo to the place where the rest of the others would be.
For the rest of the twilights, Eva committed them all by drugging the servants first and killing them. Once again Nanjo releases his "verdict" and concludes the death was obvious.
Therefore the Culprit is Eva, her accomplices being Kumasawa, Nanjo and Krauss.
This is only my rough so let's see how much we can get for this.
I wonder, I wonder... how much can we guess before time runs out?
Who will win? The pieces start to connect. ~
Let's try our best and prevail over the witch!
Those last statements were incredibly helpful, and it does give me more to go around with.
Finished~ :
Spoiler:
For the first twilight, Natsuhi and Jessica were killed; probably in their room. (I'm having a hard time believing this.) Some of the theories I have are quite interesting, but might be farfeteched as they lack motives. Either way, I believe Rosa is involved. She is definitly the survivor that saw everyone else die, if by survivor Nadeor means one of the 5 that survives in the end. I also think that Genji is involved for the only reason that he was present when the 2nd twilight happened. I might be fixing myself alot in this point, but right now, it's what I've got. Also, if Natsuhi and Jessica were killed, and Natsuhi was working with Kinzo, then either she was betrayed or indeed she died naturally. Unless, of course, they have a plan but someone else, for example Rosa, is playing with the same rules for a different objective. she is surely also working with someone that "died" in the first twilight, we know that Battler and Geroge are fed up with all this story about money, so that could be a reason.
still, I believe that someone was enraged and told something that would sparkle them into killing someone. rosa could have drugged any of the two so they would kill, for example, Hideyoshi, but now I'm being too speculative. I need a motive.
So, for now, someone (battler, hideyoshi, Kyrie, George, Kinzo) murdered Natsuhi. I'm believing that, since Natsuhi has the same plan as Kinzo and as Rosa, that menas she was eithe rkilled by someone else and udes in the first twilight or someone purposedly killed her but in a way it seemed that she died naturally. If this was Rosa, it seems she had her own plans. The plan was the same, sure, but for different motives. Rosa is certainly the most suspicious.
So, let's imagine rosa drugged the people who were in the room. According to Eva, (and a red statement that the ushiromyias were not lying), they all fell asleep, just like that. I don't know if Krauss served them the tea, but I'm supposing that Rosa was around the main house at that time. (She could be with Nanjo, but I'm not counting him in.) Now, as for Kinzo, he wants his siblings to go along well, and so he writes his will, but he also wants to follow the epitaph, for "whatever reason". Rosa knows that the only way to get any kind of money from his greedy siblings is to fall in the good graces of Kinzo. But then she learns about Kinzo and Natsuhi's beliefs, and thinks to use it to her own profit. so, she follows them for a while, and then drugs the tea of the ones that were in the meeting. they fell asleep and then she went to Natsuhi's room, to tell them the plan was already under action.
With Kinzo's help, they drag the bodies of the four, to somewhere in the forest, and keep them there. I've noticed that these 6 that were sacrificed are both the husband or spouse and the children of someone. dunno if this was purposed or not, but let's imagine that one of the deaths was accidental, and then they all just ended dead, and someone thought "this is the epitaph". well, iamgine that these deaths weren't so accidental, but instead, someone was drugged and paranoid and started fighting others. Kinzo figures out this is the curse/epitaph, and that fate has already chosen the six. ....Meanwhile, Rosda laughs for herself, seeing the others suffer.
My main theory is based that most of the things were a mess that were manipulated by someone that amde others believe in what he/she wanted. It makes kinda sense.
Spoiler for asked for recital:
I'll let myself loose on this one.
- The blonde person Krauss saw running had the objective of luring them away from the main house, this person was indeed Jessica.
- It's possible to fake someones's death by drugging them.
- For the first twilight, after the bodies were hanged and the doors were locked from inside, the remaining people left through the window.
- After the gang found the six hanged bodies, Kinzo and Rosa had taken the food in the fridge to the forest.
- Rosa is not being blackmailed at any point in this story.
- The ashes that were in the tray in Najo's room were from something that Rudolf smoked.
- The one that whispered to Najo in Kinzo's room was the culprit and didn't want him to spill out any information; he is being blackmailed.
- Battler killed someone and he was in a state of rage when he did; he was in rage due to the effect of drugs.
- Hideyoshi loves Eva and would not do anything to hurt her, under any circumstances.
- In the course of this story, someone commited suicide.
- Natsuhi and Kinzo are very close and one would not kill the other.
- The one who knows about Eva's plan without her knowledge is not anyone of the servants, and doesn't want it to succeed.
- The following are involved in the motives of the culprit of all the twilights, as the one behind all of them is the same person: love, money, magic, the corruption in the ushiromiyas, the hate between the siblings, a character that is pregnant, rage, paranoia, religion, the wellfare of some of the survivors, and revenge.
I wonder if that's too much, but I'm not holding back. Time is running out. :P
- Maria was in the guest hotel at the first twilight.
- Rosa did not kill anyone, but she did drug people.
- George, Kyrie, Hideyoshi or Battler died naturally.
- Jessica has asthma
- The murderer who killed everyone at the first twilight hated them.
- One of the servant killings were a suicide.
- Kumasawa is a man <v<
Like in the original story, Jessica has asthma.
Eva's plan is different than Natsuhi's
George and Shannon's relationship is somehow related to the murders.
Any of the servants would be able to drug the family's meal without anyone else noticing.
If the culprit tells or tricks you into doing something, and you do it, you are considered an 'accomplice' whether you are willing or not.
The murder was planned.
At least one of the deaths was not originally planned by the culprit.
The culprit or one of the accomplices drugged the tea.
Maria and/or Battler were tricked at least once during the events by the culprit or one of the accomplices.
At least one of the culprit's accomplices died in the course of the story.
-someone is addicted to drugs.
-Again, No Stakes exist
- It's possible to fake someones's death by drugging them.
- After the gang found the six hanged bodies, the food in the fridge remained untouched.
- Maria was in the guest hotel at the first twilight.
- Rosa did not kill anyone
- Jessica has asthma
- The murderer who killed everyone at the first twilight hated them.
Well, I'm really sorry, but I woon't be able to do anything much, because I'm speanding the weekend over at a friend's and I don't have any time.
So, I'm counting on you guys.
either way, here goes one of my last stands:
Spoiler:
Rosa is the culprit. she' tricking everyone that is aprt of her plan (the epitaph believers) to thin that she has good motives. but, she's tricking everyone else.
for starters, Battler is the one addicted to drugs. ...that's a way to blackmail him, or by giving him drugs, that are actually rege-induncing drugs, he kills the others.
as for Jessica, she could have been threatened that her mom would be killed or something and so she lured everyone to the woods so the first twilight could be prepared. Then she was killed.
Also, someone could have been drugged so they would kill Krauss after, in the second twilight.
Anyway, I believe that Rosa is tricking everyone into making them think something, where she has other motives.
Nadeor, I'm leaving the decision of what to recite based on what I said to you, because I really don't have the time :P
too bad that I can't give it my all in these last days, but good luck everyone!
Hehehe...The last day, to have some mercy from the Witch-sama, this game will conclude at 23:59 of tomorrow at night
that means all posts after 23:59 will not be accepted~
I will go see what I can do to help you guys this time
-For the six of the first twilight, they did not die at the place where their bodies were found(living room). They did not even die within the building (Main building).
Don't tell the witch I told this to you guys >.<
And here's another one to boost up you guys, keep on going! I'm in Canada so don't make me look bad for supporting you guys (>v<)/
The Cigaratte Ashes found by Nanjo is somewhat relating to the first twilight
- The forest is somewhat related to the first twilight.
- Someone was hiding in the woods when Genji noticed something.
- Rosa is tricking someone.
- The food that disappeared from the fridge was used to feed people.
- There are no secret rooms in this story, be it in the main house or the guest building.
- During the first night, all the servants were togheter.
- It's possible for Rosa to leave the guest house through her window without anyone noticing.
- Nanjo did not leave his room in the guest house. Even if he did, he did not leave the guest building itself.
- Some servants are oblivious as to what's going on.
- The only way to enter the meeting room in the guest hotel during the 4th-8th twilights was through the only door.
- The one who put the keys of the servants room in the meeting room after the final twilight was one of the servants.
- Rudolf and Krauss did not enter Nanjo's room in the guest hotel during this story.
Ugh, not being able to be around in the final day is complicated. Hurry up, Nadeor xD
Kyaaa! I have to be in bed before 23:59 OwO My brain is empty -w- Where are all my good moe theories?! (Well, not so moe... But still...) Hmm... Let's see...
Spoiler for Recitals:
- Noone wrote down the whole accident on a paper, put it in a bottle, and put it in the sea.
- The cigarette ashes Nanjo found was from Krauss, Hideyoshi or Rudolf.
- All the servants were killed in the guest hotel.
What the results explained at the end of the story were true, those who are listed as died, died. Those who disappeared, disappeared. Those who stayed alive, stayed alive.
K, right on~
Spoiler for Recitals:
- The forest is somewhat related to the first twilight.
- Rosa is tricking someone.
- The food that disappeared from the fridge was NOT used to feed people.
- There are no secret rooms in this story, be it in the main house or the guest building, no trap door existed either, that means do not relate this story to some James Bond stuff.
- During the first night, all the servants were togheter.
- It's possible for Rosa to leave the guest house through her window without anyone noticing.
- Nanjo did not leave his room in the guest house when not explained within the story. Even if he did, he did not leave the guest building itself.
- Some servants are oblivious as to what's going on.
- The only way to enter the meeting room in the guest hotel during the 4th-8th twilights was through the only door, and the windows were locked.
- The one who put the keys of the servants room in the meeting room after the final twilight was one of the servants.
- Rudolf and Krauss did not enter Nanjo's room in the guest hotel during this story.
- No one wrote down the whole accident on a paper, put it in a bottle, and put it in the sea, the only way that we knew how this all happened was through the tales of those who survived.
- The cigarette ashes Nanjo found was from a man.
- All the servants were killed in the guest hotel.
Well, 20 mins left.
And so, I'm ready for my final stand! I hope I get at least some things right.
Spoiler:
Rosa is the mastermind behind all the twilights. Her motive is quite simple: she just wants to survive with her daughter. Based on this, and her hate for her siblings, and her need for money, she just tricks everyone into thinking she is on their side.
First off, Kinzo believes in the epitaph, but he doesn't believe that it will be put on motion. Same as Natsuhi, she is very close to Kinzo and believes in what he says. Their "plan", so to say, is to "save" the family. Rosa knows of this, and uses it to her own advantage. And so she plans the twilights, knowing that Kinzo and Natsuhi will deliberately agree with her that the witch has returned. She also knows about Eva's plan and tries to use it to her own benefit.
For the first twilight, almost everything went according to plan. She left through her window, then she drugged the tea Krauss was serving, watching all of them fall asleep. Next up, she woke up Battler (this is a possibility), granting him drugs if he would help her. He doesn't have any knowledge on narcotics, so he needs someone to provide him with it. She could have also woken up George, informing him that Eva wants to end his marriage with Shannon (tricking him), and that she can help them both. Who's awake agrees to this, and they start dragging the bodies, collecting white linens in the way. They go to the forest, and Krauss, Eva and Rudolf are left. Rosa remembers about Natsuhi and Jessica, and tells Battler to go get them. Battler tells Jessica and Natsuhi that the others have decided to go to the forest, (for whatever reason), and they both come.
It's almost morning, and Rosa ties up Natsuhi who is weak, and leaves Battler taking care of everyone. she tells Jessica her beautiful mother will be cured if she can help them. So, Jessica goes and lures the others; meanwhile Rosa has injected Battler with a paranoia-inducing drug, and then he comes to the guest hotel, where he smokes. Rosa tells him about the epitaph and that he can redeem himself, if he does as she says. He kills Natsuhi, Kyrie, George, Hideyoshi and Jessica, . Togheter, they transport the bodies to the main building, and prepare the twilight. Battler suicides making for the first six victims of the epitaph.
For the second twilight, Rosa was in the main house when Krauss and Kinzo were fighting. she appeared from behind, and knocked Krauss out. She then conviced them that this was the doing of thw witch, and that probably Krauss and Kinzo were the next two. So, Kinzo took Krauss with him to somewhere unknown, and shot him and then commited suicide, while Rosa and Genji left the guns there, with rosa saying Beatrice had told her to elave the letter there. Genji believes this.
for the final twilight, Rosa tells the servants that to redeem themselves and save all of them, they could be aprt of the final twilight. they all agree to this has each one has lost someone special to them, and then they all die, killed by each others. Rosa locked the door, and waking up Maria, she proceedeed to the main house as if nothing had happened.
She had left no witnesses, and she had not killed anyone.
No one knew... she was the one behind it all.
Rosa... was Beatrice.
wait...No need to worry
What I meant was, the game stops when the entire world exits the 20th
So don't worry, you have at least 7 hours left
try maybe do some revise if you want
2008-10-17, 13:06
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