2010-09-12, 07:14 | Link #1261 | |
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And, considering how much trouble that closed room gave Battler, there isn't all that much red about it. |
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2010-09-12, 10:49 | Link #1263 | |
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I also think you'll have a hard time arguing for the existence of Weapon Hiding Device X when Battler found no evidence of such a thing.
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2010-09-12, 11:44 | Link #1264 | ||
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In any case, it's much easier to argue about some rubber band than about how the stakes ended up in their places in another way, especially if you don't want to accept suicide. |
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2010-09-12, 12:49 | Link #1266 | |
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As for the death of Shannon, I maintain it was a physical suicide. |
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2010-09-12, 13:53 | Link #1269 | ||
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If you want another explanation, how about someone locking the door after being mortally wounded? Either George or Gohda could have done it. EDIT: Additionally, didn't Beato repeatedly tell Battler that Device X was a worthless argument? She doesn't like them, so why would she include them in her story?
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2010-09-12, 13:57 | Link #1270 | |
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If my theory is correct,then if something in the anime is shown differently in the VN,then that is to make sure you know that it could have been done either way. |
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Shannon (or should I say Beatrice) killed the other two, staked them properly, shattered the mirror (nowhere it says that it was shattered by the stake), put the stake on the dresser, tied one end of some rubber band or something similar ("spiderweb" against the witch, stealing things) to a back of the dresser, or under the bed, or somewhere else and another end to the gun. Shot herself in the head. The gun slided somewhere. Quote:
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2010-09-12, 16:16 | Link #1272 | ||
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And Again like I said 'all deaths were homicides' has been proclaimed with the red truth. Quote:
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Strictly speaking she always uses suicide as her last measure, because she always sets up the bomb, which kills her in ep1, for example. Quote:
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Now, if he didn't see it, why would he imagine that the stake had fallen from her head? It's natural to assume that the stake wound be stuck in her head, and not lying nearby, but he clearly "imagines" that it had fallen. Quote:
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2010-09-12, 19:32 | Link #1277 | |
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I mean.. "the closed room is a coffin", "there are no persons that can give problems", or whatever... I don't understand what exactly Will is telling us, how does it explain the closed room?
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2010-09-12, 20:02 | Link #1278 | |
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"Dust to dust. ...There is no one who would argue against a coffin being a closed room." There's two ways to interpret that.
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2010-09-12, 20:28 | Link #1280 |
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Right, I would definitely argue against the statement that a coffin is a closed room. A coffin can't possibly be a closed room if according to the definition it must be closed from inside.
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