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Chaos2Frozen · 2013-06-22, 22:44

Even in the manga I never liked this part- Do we REALLY need Eren of all people to go through a shounen motivational moment in the midst of battle

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Puu · 2013-06-22, 23:09

I think part of the show's "flaw" - if it could be said as that - is the need to leave at cliffhangers. They just seem to pad things out to get to the cliffhanger point. I think, eventually, they'll have to let go of that and learn to end the episode at less-than-cliffhangery points.

I really liked this episode more than last episode, though. Last ep, the drag was a lot more noticeable with so many recycled scenes used for long speeches.... At least, this time, while we have a lot of stills, stuff happened at least.

I can't wait to see more Jean... and just who'll save him... assuming he doesn't save himself on his own...

Rennir · 2013-06-22, 23:11

Yeah the exact same scene's pacing felt a lot faster for some reason during the manga.

VTHokiePride · 2013-06-22, 23:37

The best part of this episode was Mikasa blushing when Ian said, "Defend your boyfriend."

This episode seemed a little too slow, was hoping for more action. Guess I have to wait another week.

RobotCat · 2013-06-22, 23:56

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Originally Posted by Rennir

Yeah the exact same scene's pacing felt a lot faster for some reason during the manga.

It's because you can read much faster than a person can narrate, so you can quickly go over scenes that would take much longer when animated. It's like those internal monologues in Naruto where they'd pause in the middle of battle to think about battle strategies. Works in the manga where you can read the entire page in like a minute but when it takes 5 minutes in the anime it just completely kills the tempo of the fight.

hyper_oats · 2013-06-23, 00:07

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Even in the manga I never liked this part- Do we REALLY need Eren of all people to go through a shounen motivational moment in the midst of battle

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It's not so much a motivational speech as it is additional insight into what Eren's fundamentally about. The hallucinations also reveal what's happening inside of him when his titan form is out of control, namely, he's in a happy and ignorant stupor.

ReddyRedWolf · 2013-06-23, 00:15

From the looks of it with Eren being a Titan the person inside is in a state Lotus Machine hallucination , if we take Armin's supposition of the neck part.

The person's desire is a factor. Eren dreamed of killing Titans he wasn't conscious of what he was doing. Hence mumbling he'll kill them all even after he is extracted.

Here he was dreaming of his parents and Mikasa. His Titan form responds by trying to kill Mikasa.

If Titans were humans they'd seek human company in their heads. But outside their Titan forms are hunting down humans and eating them.

SoldierOfDarkness · 2013-06-23, 01:41

Good lord this is moving at a snail's pace.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

From the looks of it with Eren being a Titan the person inside is in a state Lotus Machine hallucination , if we take Armin's supposition of the neck part.

The person's desire is a factor. Eren dreamed of killing Titans he wasn't conscious of what he was doing. Hence mumbling he'll kill them all even after he is extracted.

Here he was dreaming of his parents and Mikasa. His Titan form responds by trying to kill Mikasa.

If Titans were humans they'd seek human company in their heads. But outside their Titan forms are hunting down humans and eating them.

So in other words the Titans is like the Pyro from Team Fortress 2

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...15-d558k0j.png

It would explain why they have those disturbing faces.

MasterVampire · 2013-06-23, 01:42

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Originally Posted by jeroz

Keep in mind that this series is already confirmed to be 25+1 episodes, so e.

25+1?

Whats that mean?

Its supposed to be 25 but since there is going to be a recap episode they will make one extra being 26 total to make up for it?

yankky5 · 2013-06-23, 01:59

huh? was there a pixis titan at the preview??

darklegends8 · 2013-06-23, 02:04

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Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

From the looks of it with Eren being a Titan the person inside is in a state Lotus Machine hallucination , if we take Armin's supposition of the neck part.

The person's desire is a factor. Eren dreamed of killing Titans he wasn't conscious of what he was doing. Hence mumbling he'll kill them all even after he is extracted.

Here he was dreaming of his parents and Mikasa. His Titan form responds by trying to kill Mikasa.

If Titans were humans they'd seek human company in their heads. But outside their Titan forms are hunting down humans and eating them.

I actually didn't think of it that way, that's interesting speculation. So, in a way maybe the other titans that exist are humans that failed to "wake up" and their actual bodies "dissolve" into the titans?

Tranhieu · 2013-06-23, 02:27

I still don't get why they have to give a recap at the beginning of every episode, unless it's because there's not enough manpower to draw new material and they have to fill it up with something else.

About this episode... well... it started out quite ok, but seemed quite dragged on towards the end. I actually expected to see Eren standing up carrying that huge boulder around before the credit rolled in but the director disappointed me. Why not cut the recap to have more time for a better end? Or do they HAVE TO end the Trost arc in 13 eps?

Episode 1 is still the best so far.

mistress_kisara · 2013-06-23, 03:53

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Originally Posted by MasterVampire

25+1?

Whats that mean?

Its supposed to be 25 but since there is going to be a recap episode they will make one extra being 26 total to make up for it?

There's only 25 episodes plus 1 OVA

ReddyRedWolf · 2013-06-23, 04:01

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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

So in other words the Titans is like the Pyro from Team Fortress 2

Yeah it does doesn't it?

Allium · 2013-06-23, 04:16

I felt this episode was better than the previous one, but Eren's hallucination sure took up some time. I think it wouldn't have felt that slow if I watched them all at one go, instead of having to wait for the next week. Anyway, since we're nearing the end of the first cour, I hope that the coming episodes will make up for the recently slow-paced ones.

yankky5 · 2013-06-23, 04:27

I just rechecked the wall scene where the titans were piled up on the corner of trost and i must say I almost thought they were gonna do a world war z wall climb

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Haak · 2013-06-23, 04:43

I felt like this show has lost a of steam in the past few weeks. Watching the trio try and get out of being killed by their own was at least a little more interesting due to it being a novel situation that could go many ways but this has so far been pretty damn predictable and I can only really see it going one way so I just hope they hurry up soon.

cyth · 2013-06-23, 04:54

Yeah, the show has crawled to a DBZ's pace. Seems like noone really cares about what's going to happen because all they want is Mikasa blushing and gushing, fuck if the story doesn't move an inch. It's Defense of Trost PART 9 and only one remarkable thing happened all this time. This show's a huge disappointment and I'm thinking about dropping it.

Blaat · 2013-06-23, 05:08

I'm still enjoying this immensely and I have no problem with pacing of this series.

ArturEngel · 2013-06-23, 05:14

Is there a confirmed info, that episode 13 would be the last one in Trost arc? If so, they have to animate a lot of action. And if i understand correctly, they didn't want to split Eren carring the rock into two episodes.

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Rennir Quietly Lurking Graphic Designer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Beneath the prodigious sky...	Yeah the exact same scene's pacing felt a lot faster for some reason during the manga. __________________ Gallery \| Anime List \| Manga List

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VTHokiePride Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Washington DC Age: 29	The best part of this episode was Mikasa blushing when Ian said, "Defend your boyfriend." This episode seemed a little too slow, was hoping for more action. Guess I have to wait another week. __________________

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2013-06-22, 23:09	Link #42
Puu Senior Member Join Date: May 2013	I think part of the show's "flaw" - if it could be said as that - is the need to leave at cliffhangers. They just seem to pad things out to get to the cliffhanger point. I think, eventually, they'll have to let go of that and learn to end the episode at less-than-cliffhangery points. I really liked this episode more than last episode, though. Last ep, the drag was a lot more noticeable with so many recycled scenes used for long speeches.... At least, this time, while we have a lot of stills, stuff happened at least. I can't wait to see more Jean... and just who'll save him... assuming he doesn't save himself on his own...

2013-06-23, 00:15	Link #47
ReddyRedWolf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	From the looks of it with Eren being a Titan the person inside is in a state Lotus Machine hallucination , if we take Armin's supposition of the neck part. The person's desire is a factor. Eren dreamed of killing Titans he wasn't conscious of what he was doing. Hence mumbling he'll kill them all even after he is extracted. Here he was dreaming of his parents and Mikasa. His Titan form responds by trying to kill Mikasa. If Titans were humans they'd seek human company in their heads. But outside their Titan forms are hunting down humans and eating them.

2013-06-23, 02:27	Link #52
Tranhieu Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013	I still don't get why they have to give a recap at the beginning of every episode, unless it's because there's not enough manpower to draw new material and they have to fill it up with something else. About this episode... well... it started out quite ok, but seemed quite dragged on towards the end. I actually expected to see Eren standing up carrying that huge boulder around before the credit rolled in but the director disappointed me. Why not cut the recap to have more time for a better end? Or do they HAVE TO end the Trost arc in 13 eps? Episode 1 is still the best so far.

2013-06-23, 04:16	Link #55
Allium Keep on keeping on Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: The pale blue dot...	I felt this episode was better than the previous one, but Eren's hallucination sure took up some time. I think it wouldn't have felt that slow if I watched them all at one go, instead of having to wait for the next week. Anyway, since we're nearing the end of the first cour, I hope that the coming episodes will make up for the recently slow-paced ones.

2013-06-23, 04:27	Link #56
yankky5 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Between a dragon(China) and a kangaroo(Australia)	I just rechecked the wall scene where the titans were piled up on the corner of trost and i must say I almost thought they were gonna do a world war z wall climb Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________

2013-06-23, 04:43	Link #57
Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	I felt like this show has lost a of steam in the past few weeks. Watching the trio try and get out of being killed by their own was at least a little more interesting due to it being a novel situation that could go many ways but this has so far been pretty damn predictable and I can only really see it going one way so I just hope they hurry up soon. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

2013-06-23, 04:54	Link #58
cyth Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Age: 38	Yeah, the show has crawled to a DBZ's pace. Seems like noone really cares about what's going to happen because all they want is Mikasa blushing and gushing, fuck if the story doesn't move an inch. It's Defense of Trost PART 9 and only one remarkable thing happened all this time. This show's a huge disappointment and I'm thinking about dropping it.

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