AnimeSuki Forums

frodonk · 2013-08-31, 12:13

maybe, but it would be too sudden if they wanted to introduce the time travel capabilities of that gate this late, at least they would've set it up or even hint that it is able to do that.

from what I can see, it was introduced only 2 episodes ago because it is intended as a kind of last boss that would end everything once it is destroyed. I was thinking before that they needed to kill the king, but they showed that destroying the gate would end this instead.

but what do you know, maybe it really is capable of things like that

cyberdemon · 2013-08-31, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by frodonk

maybe, but it would be too sudden if they wanted to introduce the time travel capabilities of that gate this late, at least they would've set it up or even hint that it is able to do that.

from what I can see, it was introduced only 2 episodes ago because it is intended as a kind of last boss that would end everything once it is destroyed. I was thinking before that they needed to kill the king, but they showed that destroying the gate would end this instead.

but what do you know, maybe it really is capable of things like that

Not really. They seem to be thinking of doing another season. so i wouldn't call it too late to use such an idea.

Triple_R · 2013-08-31, 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

They seem to be thinking of doing another season.

What makes you think this? Just curious.

I wouldn't rule out another season, but the potential is there for the narrative to end nice, neat, and tidy within a few episodes if it wants to.

cyberdemon · 2013-08-31, 14:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple_R

What makes you think this? Just curious.

I wouldn't rule out another season, but the potential is there for the narrative to end nice, neat, and tidy within a few episodes if it wants to.

It was mentioned a few pages back that they were considering another season

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micro_Ice

Well a second season for this show is being considered I hope it becomes true since I don't see this ending properly and conclusivly in 4 episodes without it becoming a rush-fest.

Key Board · 2013-08-31, 14:14

I can see it ending in 4~5 episode

If we are taking about priorities, this is Izuru and Asagi's story

4 ~ 5 episode is enough to give them closure

The other characters don't need it.

Triple_R · 2013-08-31, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

It was mentioned a few pages back that they were considering another season

Thanks for that info! I guess I missed it before.

Well, then you could certainly be right about the gate. Having it capable of time travel would open up a lot of interesting possibilities. Heck, I even a wild thought...

Spoiler for Triple_R's Wild Thought:

Key Board · 2013-08-31, 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Thanks for that info! I guess I missed it before.

Well, then you could certainly be right about the gate. Having it capable of time travel would open up a lot of interesting possibilities. Heck, I even a wild thought...

Spoiler for Triple_R's Wild Thought:

No need to spoiler that. It's a just a theory

wouldn't that cause a weird time paradox, though?

considering Asagi and Izuru's genes come from Simon

can you be the progenitor of your own self?

cyberdemon · 2013-08-31, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Key Board

No need to spoiler that. It's a just a theory

wouldn't that cause a weird time paradox, though?

considering Asagi and Izuru's genes come from Simon

can you be the progenitor of your own self?

Philip J Fry is his own grandpa lol. It really depends though. Like say Izuru is Simon. He is born to other parents but his dna is Simon's and is later combined a bit with Teoria's DNA (This later experiment is likely why they had their memories erased when others like Doberman still seemed to have memories) to keep it from leaking out since there would be bound to be backlash). He later goes back in time during the final battle and maybe has a kid, Asagi. Finds his younger self and preps him to go into the past knowing it is necessary for humanity's future. Izuru and Asagi would still have Simon's dna in them. Their DNA was tightly locked down considering she needed permission to access it and it seems even then it was limited to Simon's part and the experiment which wouldn't give them the full view of Izuru's dna.

Cloudedmind · 2013-08-31, 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Clues? someone just threw out the idea that Theoria is Izuru's mom (mostly as a support for Kei back then) without there really being any clues and then we get this confusing connection between them a dozen episodes later. lol. Plus with talks of a season 2 anything is possible.

That's not why I threw that theory out that. I can't even say I really like Kei that much. Heck I like Anna more then Kei and she's only been in 3-4 episodes maybe. Speaking of which, Asagi get with it already, in 10 years she'll probably be smokin' hot. You need to be first in line when that happens....just kidding. xD

Anyway, I originally threw the Thoeria mom theory out there because everyone was so convinced she was Izuru's other love interest citing her placement in the OP/ED, as one of the clues, I don't remember which one. So, I kind of laughed to myself, and thought what if she's his mom. And then I thought about it, and was like, what if she IS his mom, and threw it out there.

In regards to this episode, nice character interaction and development between Izuru, Asagi, and Simon. It's nice to see Simon does seem to care about them even though he still has to keep his feelings somewhat separate from work.

And was I the only person who felt a bit sad that Ange was alone when at s/he's ASHMB. No pit crew to cheer him/her on, but I though his/her line was funny. I would also really like it if they'd finally tell us Ange's gender.

Reality_Breaker · 2013-09-01, 00:40

My god you people really want Izuru to be Simon, in my opinion if the whole time travel thing were real I would believe Asagi to be Simon the most because he already looks similar to the man, Izuru looks more like Teoria. Also Asagi should just wait for Anna to grow up he already has her family's approval.

As long as Izuru x Kei happens i'll be ok with anything else happening. Really glad I kept watching this anime 100x better than Valverave in my opinion.

cyberdemon · 2013-09-01, 02:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reality_Breaker

My god you people really want Izuru to be Simon, in my opinion if the whole time travel thing were real I would believe Asagi to be Simon the most because he already looks similar to the man, Izuru looks more like Teoria. Also Asagi should just wait for Anna to grow up he already has her family's approval.

As long as Izuru x Kei happens i'll be ok with anything else happening. Really glad I kept watching this anime 100x better than Valverave in my opinion.

Izuru x Kei is unlikely to happen. If he doesn't die from his condition then I still say it's likely he's going to sacrifice himself in the end to destroy the gate. Asagi x Kei has a much better chance of happening. Izuru has showed no interest so far.

Tenzen12 · 2013-09-01, 02:26

Izuru will not die, though that doesn't say anything whether he will end with Kei or not.

cyberdemon · 2013-09-01, 03:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Izuru will not die, though that doesn't say anything whether he will end with Kei or not.

I personally think the ending will be him sacrificing himself to destroy the gate but leaving enough hints that he may still be alive. If they do another season it will likely be about asagi rather than izuru.

Izuru has shown no romantic interest in Kei and his relationship with Teoria is confusing and unclear without more info. They sure made that triangle chaotic. Lol

Traece · 2013-09-01, 04:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Izuru has shown no romantic interest in Kei and his relationship with Teoria is confusing and unclear without more info. They sure made that triangle chaotic. Lol

How is his relationship with Teoria unclear and confusing? Is her being his mother that strange?

Have we forgotten that all of the tension between Izuru and Teoria wasn't necessarily romantic as much as implying a strong bond between them of uncertain nature?

BladeEntity · 2013-09-01, 04:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traece

How is his relationship with Teoria unclear and confusing? Is her being his mother that strange?

Have we forgotten that all of the tension between Izuru and Teoria wasn't necessarily romantic as much as implying a strong bond between them of uncertain nature?

Spoken with truth, tension between wasn't necessarily romantic.

In all honesty throughout the episode I was wondering why they don't throw Izuru into a Rhino instead, if piloting a his awakened suit is the problem, maybe a normal suit will work.

Traece · 2013-09-01, 04:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by BladeEntity

Spoken with truth, tension between wasn't necessarily romantic.

In all honesty throughout the episode I was wondering why they don't throw Izuru into a Rhino instead, if piloting a his awakened suit is the problem, maybe a normal suit will work.

Because he doesn't know how to pilot one and he'd probably die twice as fast or faster.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2013-09-01, 05:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traece

Because he doesn't know how to pilot one and he'd probably die twice as fast or faster.

But (looking back at episode 1), weren't the fail-5 rabbits trained using training-Rhinos back in the academy? So, how come Asagi doesn’t know how to pilot one?

Traece · 2013-09-01, 05:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

But (looking back at episode 1), weren't the fail-5 rabbits trained using training-Rhinos back in the academy? So, how come Asagi doesn’t know how to pilot one?

You're using the phrase "know how to pilot" rather loosely here. I wouldn't call that piloting by any means (evidently, nobody else did either).

The ASHMB units make a big difference beyond the JURIA system. They're better in every single way by a large amount. The JURIA system allows them to be piloted to their full potentials. The JURIA system is almost MJP's Newtype, in how it's treated. Sure, Izuru can technically pilot a Rhino, but we already know he's terrible in them and that even if he had matured to a point where he could use it reliably he wouldn't be able to perform well enough to stay alive. There's a point at which man outperforms machine, and as we learned with Team Doberman the Rhinos are well under that point compared to the ASHMBs and the Wulgaru officers. If Izuru had to fight an officer in the Rhino, he'd die. They barely survived an officer in their ASHMBs.

Triple_R · 2013-09-01, 05:36

Izuru in Red 5 is a top-flight Ace, and possibly the only guy that can actually defeat Jiart.

Izuru in a Rhino is an average grunt, at best. In short, he becomes a Red Shirt. So it's not like you improve his chances of survival just by throwing him into a Rhino.

If Izuru is risking his life anyway, it might as well be with him having the capabilities of a top-flight Ace and not just the capabilities of a grunt.

Tenzen12 · 2013-09-01, 05:44

Nope, they are all top notch pilots. Which was mentioned in very first episode, only thing that was bringing them down was lack of teamwork.

2013-08-31, 12:13	Link #1041
frodonk Master of Killing Time Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Makinohara Service Area	maybe, but it would be too sudden if they wanted to introduce the time travel capabilities of that gate this late, at least they would've set it up or even hint that it is able to do that. from what I can see, it was introduced only 2 episodes ago because it is intended as a kind of last boss that would end everything once it is destroyed. I was thinking before that they needed to kill the king, but they showed that destroying the gate would end this instead. but what do you know, maybe it really is capable of things like that __________________ Just my MAL profile, I'm putting this here for no particular reason.

2013-08-31, 14:14	Link #1045
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	I can see it ending in 4~5 episode If we are taking about priorities, this is Izuru and Asagi's story 4 ~ 5 episode is enough to give them closure The other characters don't need it. __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2013-09-01, 00:40	Link #1050
Reality_Breaker Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Puerto Rico Age: 34	My god you people really want Izuru to be Simon, in my opinion if the whole time travel thing were real I would believe Asagi to be Simon the most because he already looks similar to the man, Izuru looks more like Teoria. Also Asagi should just wait for Anna to grow up he already has her family's approval. As long as Izuru x Kei happens i'll be ok with anything else happening. Really glad I kept watching this anime 100x better than Valverave in my opinion. __________________

2013-09-01, 05:36	Link #1059
Triple_R Senior Member Author Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Age: 42	Izuru in Red 5 is a top-flight Ace, and possibly the only guy that can actually defeat Jiart. Izuru in a Rhino is an average grunt, at best. In short, he becomes a Red Shirt. So it's not like you improve his chances of survival just by throwing him into a Rhino. If Izuru is risking his life anyway, it might as well be with him having the capabilities of a top-flight Ace and not just the capabilities of a grunt. __________________

2013-09-01, 02:26	Link #1052
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Izuru will not die, though that doesn't say anything whether he will end with Kei or not.

2013-09-01, 05:44	Link #1060
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Nope, they are all top notch pilots. Which was mentioned in very first episode, only thing that was bringing them down was lack of teamwork.