2011-06-07, 20:13 | Link #21 | |
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Even tho Ive never seen that serious bulling, I would have no doubts hearing a story like that in real life.
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2011-06-08, 01:57 | Link #22 | |
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I'm not trying to claim that typical bullying isn't cruel, I'm claiming that bullying of the level Aeka suffered is highly unusual and it would be even rarer for some authority figure to not notice that something was odd, or that some student wouldn't contact an authority figure. School counselors exist for a reason. Destroying rather than spending stolen money and tasing people in the middle of class strike me as the sort of thing that would never, ever happen. |
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2011-06-08, 03:47 | Link #23 |
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I think you're confusing the way things are with the way things should be. Not trying to start a debate or anything, but the way we think during times of comfort is completely different than how we think when these things are happening right in front of us. People begin making up excuses that seem logical and probably are, but have them doing nothing as the end result.
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2011-06-08, 08:36 | Link #24 | |
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I would have no doubts since Ive read about similar stuff, liked knifed during the class and then hospitalized.
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2011-06-09, 00:15 | Link #26 |
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One part I found strange in Aeka's route was the tasers/stunguns. Is it really that difficult to spot one?
I also found Nekoko's route to be the highlight of the VN. Also considering the title, I feel that Nekoko is the main heroine of the series (no pun intended). |
2011-06-09, 10:10 | Link #28 |
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It was in the shape of a pen IIRC. I've actually seen one in real life; it's shaped like a normal click pen, but when you push the button in, it gives you a nasty shock. It's kind of a gag toy, like a hand buzzer. Luckily when my friend asked me to click it open, it either ran out of batteries or misfired.
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2011-06-09, 10:25 | Link #29 | |
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2011-06-09, 18:12 | Link #30 | |
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Anyway... no love for Nekoko and her story? |
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2011-06-09, 20:22 | Link #32 |
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^Agreed, but only by a bit imo. The characters were pretty balanced in YMK (having only 3 of em probably helped).
I don't remember the specifics of what happened with the stunning, but if she fell out of her seat then you're probably right about it being a real stun pen. But even if they did see it, it's not like their bullying was a secret in the first place. The teacher could've conceivably not seen the spark since she was attacked by behind and it conveniently left little mess. |
2011-06-10, 03:34 | Link #33 | |
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Tragic stories only work if they're believable. |
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2011-06-10, 17:50 | Link #34 |
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In Japan, it is common for the whole class to bully a victim (if there is one), whether actively or passively. The suicide rates of these students are worryingly high, suggesting worryingly horrible bully.
One factor that could make a difference (and possibly their savior) is the teachers. However you could see in GTO that teachers are by no means safe from student bullying either, so teacher intervention could actually worsen the situation. The fact that the whole class is involved, only means that calling the police would mean little. Sure, the Alpha Bully could be taken care of by calling the police, but there's a chance other less dominant bullies will start to emerge. Unless the police dared pressing charges to the whole student and the school staff. Not to mention the bully's parents attempt to defend their child anyways. Aeka's case was worsened by child neglect and abuse, so it really is a miracle she didn't suicide faster than she would. The taser though I agree could be pushing it a bit too far. However, human never ceases to amaze me so far, so...
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2012-01-07, 08:23 | Link #35 |
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Just finished Nekoko's route. I'll rate it just slightly lower than Aeka's route because it just didn't have the same roller-coaster of emotions, but it was a lot better than Mizuki's route. The whole fairy nonsense and antics annoyed me a bit, but the route steadily improved for me until it reached a jaw-droppingly beautiful and heartwarming conclusion.
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2012-04-19, 06:10 | Link #38 | |
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As for this game, I felt it was superbly done. My emotions were indeed under the spell of the game throughout all 3 routes of the game. Its hard for me to pick which one I enjoyed the most since i loved them all, but Mizuki's would have to top them all, simply because she had your kid and they showed a positive, happy epilogue where you're seen to have a family. Nekoko's was left open and Aeka's simply depicted as her being completely dependent on you and doesnt really conclude much except that you hope she will be happy with you for now on.
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yeah, yeah, its just a game. but it gave me all the feels. |
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