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Birdway · 2013-05-16, 16:28

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Tsuchimikado reminds me again why I had hoped he would be the third protagonist. He really should have gone all Liam Neeson on people sooner. Seeing him face off with Kumokawa was like sherlock and moriaty trying to read each other.

I edited the parts with elements about the novel.

(I still think Kamachi shouldn't over complicate Kumokawa and just make it her esper ability.)

Kamachi said through Birdway on Vol.2 that changing the attributes of a character could alter the way they act thus leading them to the wrong outcomes.

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Oh yeah, there's this as well-

So I guess she's now living the hobo life

Wait, an illustration(1/3) just for that?

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Originally Posted by Marina2

Aogami is impossible to be LV5. If he is, he will be in other school not Touma school.

Accelerator doesn't goes to school.

And if I am not mistaken #3 goes to Tokiwadai to be a rol model to other students in the city, right?

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-16, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Birdway

Kamachi said through Birdway on Vol.2 that changing those attributes of said character could alter the way they act thus leading them to the wrong outcomes.

What do you mean?

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Originally Posted by Birdway

Wait, an illustration(1/3) just for that?

It's also a coloured illustration

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Originally Posted by Birdway

Accelerator doesn't goes to school.

And if I am not mistaken #3 goes to Tokiwadai to be a role model to other students in the city, right?

Accelerator is still under the name of a school officially, and they certainly didn't give him some half-assed academy.

But Mikoto's entry into Tokiwadai was never explained, but it's probably just a case of good student into a good school... Heck, there are four other schools she could have gone to that are just as renowned as Tokiwadai.

Sumeragi · 2013-05-16, 16:37

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Heck, there are four other schools she could have gone to that are just as renowned as Tokiwadai.

Are they all middle schools?

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-16, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Are they all middle schools?

Fair point; It doesn't say though so... Maybe

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Marina2 · 2013-05-16, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Birdway

Accelerator doesn't goes to school.

And if I am not mistaken #3 goes to Tokiwadai to be a rol model to other students in the city, right?

What I'm trying to say is Touma's school is the school for low level esper. There are no way that there is a Lv5 in this school.

Tokiwadai is the school that only accept high level esper (Lv 3-4+) that's why Mikoto is there.

Rising Dragon · 2013-05-16, 18:35

Higher level Espers have to deal with higher level calculations and such so they can use their powers, and as a result the Level 5s are conceivably all very excellent students. So even if a Level 5 was hiding out in a school for Level 0s and such, it probably wouldn't be Touma's class, which always did strike me as for lesser-capable students.

Sumeragi · 2013-05-16, 18:43

What better place to hide, though?

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-16, 19:13

Ugh, I can deal with leg and arm ripping, but an eye? Gets me every time

Unfortunately, a fight like Tsuchimikado and Kumokawa would probably not work in Anime since a lot of it is monologue and that would slow down the pacing if they explain everything...

....And you know they're not going to explain everything.

Rovert10 · 2013-05-16, 19:48

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Ugh, I can deal with leg and arm ripping, but an eye? Gets me every time

Unfortunately, a fight like Tsuchimikado and Kumokawa would probably not work in Anime since a lot of it is monologue and that would slow down the pacing if they explain everything...

....And you know they're not going to explain everything.

That's hasn't stopped Touma and his preaching.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-16, 19:53

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Originally Posted by Rovert10

That's hasn't stopped Touma and his preaching.

They cut that down as well- go read vol 10 and see in what great lengths did he and Oriana talk about philosophy.

whitecloud · 2013-05-16, 22:37

Touma sure is being Kept in the dark by everyone..by kumokawa, tsuchimikado, bird way, everyone....it's mile he is some mascot hero...

Acer · 2013-05-16, 23:03

it does not make much sense considering that these same people drag the Touma for their problems (especially Kumokawa brought him to the dark side a situation now), I think that it is right to want to say what they think on keeping it away, but being assholes just dragging it.

of course I say that if you wanted to say that these people want to protect him, and I misread.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-16, 23:33

Knowing Kamijou's personality, do you really want them to tell him every single dark secret they know?

Think about that for a second.

Also they have zero obligation to say anything- whats with this obsession with wanting him to know everything? Its not like this is the first protagonist you've seen being manipulated. Kamijou has come to terms with himself already- even if he is being manipulated, its better than abandoning people he could save.

Daft · 2013-05-16, 23:44

Didn't expect Tsuchimikado to go down like that... neither did Touma though, he was hoping for the usual beat down to give some normalcy to the situation. A hysterical Tsuchimikado is easy to read for Touma. Apparently Touma's going to go hunting for that board member, Yakumi Hisako now.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-17, 00:06

I don't want to say it, but is it just me or are these plot twist moments hard to follow?

The Anime version of NT 3 and 7 would be hard to pull off to say the least.

Acer · 2013-05-17, 00:15

strange that the spoiler said that Touma lost, at least we have seen that he has real skills of fighting, although Motoharu not in a good day, Kamijou-chan cried, how cute, I also agree with the difficulties of adapting these scenes anime, and director index is not the best.

Daft · 2013-05-17, 00:16

The plot itself seems pretty simple. I'd say the fact that the Agitate Halation project can control the fates of people without them knowing is what is making things confusing. Point in case being, the project is what made Seria call Touma, she wouldn't have thought to involve him if she wasn't compelled by whoever is controlling it.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-17, 00:20

Its not so much of the overall plot, but rather the individual scenes for each 'surprise' reveal seems hard to follow.

Remember, we aren't suppose to know what AH does yet.

Daft · 2013-05-17, 00:27

Kaizumi and Tsuchimikado's analogy to billiards spelled it out though, didn't it? Different people are pretty much being compelled to fight against other in a convenient manner for whom is in charge (hit them into the pockets). I wonder if this means that Gunha's appearance will completely disregard AH's scheme due to his sheer craziness/stupidity.

R.LocK · 2013-05-17, 00:38

Actually, it's kind of funny that Kamachi used the same trick as in NT06 to bring Kumokawa down.

And hell, if the second chapter was not as epic as Accel's POV in vol.13.

2013-05-16, 18:35	Link #426
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Higher level Espers have to deal with higher level calculations and such so they can use their powers, and as a result the Level 5s are conceivably all very excellent students. So even if a Level 5 was hiding out in a school for Level 0s and such, it probably wouldn't be Touma's class, which always did strike me as for lesser-capable students. __________________

2013-05-16, 19:13	Link #428
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	Ugh, I can deal with leg and arm ripping, but an eye? Gets me every time Unfortunately, a fight like Tsuchimikado and Kumokawa would probably not work in Anime since a lot of it is monologue and that would slow down the pacing if they explain everything... ....And you know they're not going to explain everything. __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2013-05-16, 23:33	Link #433
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	Knowing Kamijou's personality, do you really want them to tell him every single dark secret they know? Think about that for a second. Also they have zero obligation to say anything- whats with this obsession with wanting him to know everything? Its not like this is the first protagonist you've seen being manipulated. Kamijou has come to terms with himself already- even if he is being manipulated, its better than abandoning people he could save. __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2013-05-17, 00:06	Link #435
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	I don't want to say it, but is it just me or are these plot twist moments hard to follow? The Anime version of NT 3 and 7 would be hard to pull off to say the least. __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2013-05-17, 00:20	Link #438
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	Its not so much of the overall plot, but rather the individual scenes for each 'surprise' reveal seems hard to follow. Remember, we aren't suppose to know what AH does yet. __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2013-05-16, 18:43	Link #427
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	What better place to hide, though?

2013-05-16, 22:37	Link #431
whitecloud Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Touma sure is being Kept in the dark by everyone..by kumokawa, tsuchimikado, bird way, everyone....it's mile he is some mascot hero...

2013-05-16, 23:03	Link #432
Acer Death to the infidels! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: in a world of pain!	it does not make much sense considering that these same people drag the Touma for their problems (especially Kumokawa brought him to the dark side a situation now), I think that it is right to want to say what they think on keeping it away, but being assholes just dragging it. of course I say that if you wanted to say that these people want to protect him, and I misread.

2013-05-16, 23:44	Link #434
Daft Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Age: 33	Didn't expect Tsuchimikado to go down like that... neither did Touma though, he was hoping for the usual beat down to give some normalcy to the situation. A hysterical Tsuchimikado is easy to read for Touma. Apparently Touma's going to go hunting for that board member, Yakumi Hisako now.

2013-05-17, 00:15	Link #436
Acer Death to the infidels! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: in a world of pain!	strange that the spoiler said that Touma lost, at least we have seen that he has real skills of fighting, although Motoharu not in a good day, Kamijou-chan cried, how cute, I also agree with the difficulties of adapting these scenes anime, and director index is not the best.

2013-05-17, 00:16	Link #437
Daft Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Age: 33	The plot itself seems pretty simple. I'd say the fact that the Agitate Halation project can control the fates of people without them knowing is what is making things confusing. Point in case being, the project is what made Seria call Touma, she wouldn't have thought to involve him if she wasn't compelled by whoever is controlling it.

2013-05-17, 00:27	Link #439
Daft Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Age: 33	Kaizumi and Tsuchimikado's analogy to billiards spelled it out though, didn't it? Different people are pretty much being compelled to fight against other in a convenient manner for whom is in charge (hit them into the pockets). I wonder if this means that Gunha's appearance will completely disregard AH's scheme due to his sheer craziness/stupidity.

2013-05-17, 00:38	Link #440
R.LocK My turn Join Date: Feb 2012	Actually, it's kind of funny that Kamachi used the same trick as in NT06 to bring Kumokawa down. And hell, if the second chapter was not as epic as Accel's POV in vol.13.