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And she did crush Orochimaru in one blow, without speaking of using a sword of the size of a building weighing probably some dozens of tons to end a Godzilla-class Summon. We have an example of Gai's strength and we have examples of Tsunade's strength. The examples of Tsunade are simply vastly crazier than Gai's, period. You're the one who can't stop assuming because you don't like what the manga showed or rather because it doesn't go with the point you're trying to defend right now. Quote:
lol if Konohamaru runs into Itachi and bites his leg and that because he's a twisted bastard he uses Tsukiyomi to destroy the mind of the little brat it will not suddenly become a difficult battle. Quote:
None of the jounins were able to land a single finger on Itachi, not a single of them was able to do something at least a little dangerous for him and they were already pushed at a complete disadvantage in no time before Itachi decided alone and not even in response of one of their attack to use the Tsukiyomi and you ask and? Neither Asuma, nor Kurenai nor Kakashi showed a single thing which could worry Itachi, actually Kakashi was praised to be able to do nothing but defend himself during barely 30s and you would call that a difficult fight? It was simply easy, as much as you would like to twist that, the battle was completely one sided. Quote:
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2004-09-17, 23:53 | Link #64 |
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I agree with Hunter that Itachi had a relatively easy fight against the jounins. It doesn't matter if one of his top jutsus tired him. He used that to drive a point home with Kakashi about who is the true master of the sharingan. If a rabbit blasts as fast as it can to the finish line, and is breathing hard at the end, that doesn't mean it had a hard match against a turtle--it just means the rabbit is arrogant as hell and wanted to drive the turtle's self-esteem into the ground.
Hmm, as to the comparison of strength between Gai and Tsunade, I think it's obvious that Tsunade is significantly stronger, probably on a magnitude of at least ten (of course that's a little bit manufactured.) As to whether Gai is a bug compared to Tsunade, that's just a matter of opinion. Surely she's not millions of times stronger, but she's certainly quite a bit stronger, and could wipe the floor with him with just one hit. |
2004-09-18, 00:08 | Link #65 |
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I also think Tsunade is Stronger there are several things i believe are so.
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(i'll stick to the manga here because the anime made big mistake with Tsunade's strength, has been discussed before so let's not start that again) Kisame? how did he get in this discussion? I might be missing something but explain to me what prove we have of Kisame's physical strength (any twat can hold a big sword so I doubt you mean that) Quote:
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Yeah Gai is around the same strength of Tsunade and Kisame wasn't phased by his kick because he's an invincible monster. Right. You just prove again and again at each of your post that you have no point, you refuse to admit that Tsunade showed a vastly stronger strength level than Gai : to hide that you just can't say the opposite you invent stupid comparison like 'and ant to the Hulk' as if I made a comparison like that. Gai isn't an ant but he's not as strong as Tsunade and to keep stating the obvious start to be tiring. Lee doing more damage than Gai? Barely and he has opened the 5 Gates, and I also wonder how Gai dispersed like it was nothing the Sand attack of Gaara against which Lee was hopeless whereas Lee is supposed to have showed more strength Quote:
At least you admit that Gai isn't even nearly as strong as Tsunade so now why did you feel the need to discuss that since it's my point from the beginning? Quote:
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Oh he was 50m behind at least but it wasn't an easy victory because I was tired a tiny bit! Your definition differs from what this word means. Quote:
Btw and for the second time how Gai can fight against an explosive Kage Bunshin with Taijutsu? Animizzle there is somewhat an example of Kisame's strength, when Asuma said that he could easily pressure him with the top of his sword |
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2004-09-18, 12:04 | Link #69 | |
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About Kisame's strenght. Well he used the tip of his sword and only 1 hand(really really at a disadvantage) and overpowerd Asuma who has probably #2 stats in strength of the jounins. SO I guess it's enough to assume that he has incredble strength, we don't know much else about him for Itachi told him not to use any of his flashy jutsus for they would draw attention. |
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2004-09-18, 12:28 | Link #71 |
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I don't think Gai would stand more of a chance against Itachi.
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Gai also just doesn't have the eyes for it. Kakashi's eyes helped him out against Itachi, but Gai doesn't have this advantage. I'm not saying we know Gai would be crappier than Kakashi against Itachi, it's just that it's not likely he'd be any better, with the current data we have. Oh, and UserName, it seems that for you to define 'easy' as 'exhibiting little effort' is at odds with how you originally used the word 'easy' to drive home a point. The point is that it didn't require any effort on Itachi's part, not that he exhibiited it. |
2004-09-18, 13:04 | Link #72 | |
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The Tsukiyomi requires effort and that's the only one that hit Kakashi. It was an easy fight but no walk in the park. |
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2004-09-18, 14:45 | Link #74 | |
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Even though it is never stated or really shown who is the faster of the two (Gai or Itachi)... Spoiler:
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2004-09-18, 15:19 | Link #78 | |
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2004-09-18, 15:22 | Link #79 | |
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1. Like Itachi, Sasuke is a "true" Sharingan inheritor, who possesses a body that is suited for the Sharingan. Kakashi on the other hand can't use the Sharingan to its maximum potential due to the fact that he is not of the Uchiha Clan and also, the Sharingan puts tremendous strain on his body. 2. Sasuke has the Sharingan in both eyes as opposed to Kakashi's one. But, Kakashi definitely has more experience with the Sharingan, which is why Jiraiya advises him to continue Sasuke's training. Sasuke may have "better" eyes, but it would be reasonable to believe that he does need more training using them. |
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2004-09-18, 15:27 | Link #80 | |
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