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Old 2017-07-05, 11:11   Link #41
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Tried my best to keep awake, but failed. Sorry fans.

Though the OP is energetic enough. Indeed May'n + Wake Up Girls (though I'm only familiar with 2 of them since I didn't watch their anime)
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Old 2017-07-05, 12:08   Link #42
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Tried my best to keep awake, but failed. Sorry fans.

Though the OP is energetic enough. Indeed May'n + Wake Up Girls (though I'm only familiar with 2 of them since I didn't watch their anime)
There are shows that winds you up, and there are shows that winds you down. Nothing wring with either.

This show is for winding down.

If you want excitement, then yes, you are better off elsewhere.

EDIT: Just want to add that this episode got me trying some Japanese style corn Potage.
It is really just a variation of the Chinese style corn soup, with the addition of milk being the main thing. I do enjoy it very much, and can understand why the waitress drank the whole pot. The use of sweet corn instead of corn-corn is what made it sweet for her. In Japan most corn used are sweet corn.
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Old 2017-07-05, 15:30   Link #43
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She's a dragon. She has gold in abundance. Besides, she considers the restaurant to be a part of her treasure, so it's not like the money's actually gone from her perspective: she just put it in a different place.

I suspect the master gets away with his prices because, as far as the residents of that world are concerned, his food is excellent beyond compare. You get what you pay for, basically. In their world I imagine if a master chef were to set up business somewhere he or she would be able to basically charge whatever they want: there probably aren't any regulations about business practices over there. People in that world would just expect that, so if this restaurant comes across as being somewhat pricey, well, they're paying for quality.
I wonder what that means about his other customers. They don't look like nobles, are they all elite adventurers who need a train of pack animals for their loot?
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Old 2017-07-05, 16:10   Link #44
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I wonder what that means about his other customers. They don't look like nobles, are they all elite adventurers who need a train of pack animals for their loot?
Well the thing is the restaurant had been around for a longtime, predating the current owner. So it isn't like people just randomly walk in, it is already a renowned place to eat. One assumes that successful adventurers would have the money to enjoy themselves, even if most adventurers just fail and die in a ditch somewhere. We are selectively seeing the most successful people in the world, coming to eat at a magical restaurant that only appear once a week.

It been only available once a week means it was never going to be a place you drop in for a beer for.
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Old 2017-07-05, 16:25   Link #45
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Another thing I wonder: would he get away with serving them micro waved frozen food? Would the guys from another world know better?

Though I don't think I'd dare cut corners with the dragon... And it's not like he isn't paid very well, so if he needs a break, he could just cut back on his involvement with the normal days operations...
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Old 2017-07-05, 16:53   Link #46
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Isn't the answer simple? It's magic!

See, easy.

Honestly, I don't see how the 'why' does matter (in this or any other case).
It's less about explanation of the magic more to the point I want the Owner to be more of a character rather than some cipher. Mystique is fine, but not at the complete absence of a character's being beyond their surface role. Doesn't have to be in your face it as can be hinted at through relationships with others, like with comments from the Red Dragon in this episode.

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Tried my best to keep awake, but failed. Sorry fans.

Though the OP is energetic enough. Indeed May'n + Wake Up Girls (though I'm only familiar with 2 of them since I didn't watch their anime)
I don't blame you, this one of those shows you need be in certain mood to watch. Plus some parts of were a fairly dragged.

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Old 2017-07-05, 16:54   Link #47
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Another thing I wonder: would he get away with serving them micro waved frozen food? Would the guys from another world know better?
The thing here is that the man has pride, and would consider it beneath him. As you see, he even cook his own meals properly, even though it is something he considers too plain to serve to paying customers. This is done as a hobby, and most people take their hobbies more seriously than their normal day jobs.
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Old 2017-07-05, 18:21   Link #48
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i gonna let my "theory about "how things started" since i'm anime only watch and based on the few clues let's start to make some "theory"

A long time ago one of his ancestor(probably his grandfather) which was a great chief, meet the dragon godness in past, she somehow have a deadly battle with another deity and ended wining but get heavy wounded and due to something she needed to open a portal to leave the battleground but due to her big injuries and heavy tired she ended opening a portal to "our realm" and meeting his ancestor which helped her (she probably appeared on her human form) helping her healing from the wounds and providing his masterpiece food ended making her "fall in love with... his food" then as her form to pay him for his kidness and "food" and also wanting to have a "forever source of good food", she made a deal using her power to bless his family and restaurant with "powers" making his restaurant a "bridge to others realms" for him can provide food for her and others peoples and get payed and also some magical protection which make anyone to never be able to "harm him, his place or anything she recognize as part of her "treasure", this my theory about how things work, ofcourse is just a theory and opnion and i can be totally wrong.
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Old 2017-07-06, 06:59   Link #49
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I think I have my feel good seriea of the season.

Also, Aletta is moe AF.
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Old 2017-07-06, 09:55   Link #50
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Watched episode 1:

Finished with episode 1... this anime is amazing!!!

Will keep watching.
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Old 2017-07-06, 15:36   Link #51
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Rather than blacks/Mexicans/Saracen being demonised, in this world...demons are being demonised? Elegant as the metaphor is, I think someone is missing the point that demons are basically evil by definition. Especially those moe anime demons with the ideal forms to tempt Otaku into carnal sin...

But within the show, Aletta really is a lovely sympathetic girl. The premise is interesting, but not much has been done with it yet, and I agree with earlier comments that the chef was underwhelming. Might keep watching, or not.
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Old 2017-07-06, 18:41   Link #52
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I think someone is missing the point that demons are basically evil by definition.
I think someone is missing the point that demons are described as evil purely because they were literally competing religions in the Middle East at the time. That most famous "demons" are just gods of other religions. Thus no, you are the one missing the point.
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Old 2017-07-06, 18:56   Link #53
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I think someone is missing the point that demons are described as evil purely because they were literally competing religions in the Middle East at the time. That most famous "demons" are just gods of other religions. Thus no, you are the one missing the point.
yeah what it's matter is "from what myth" or religion the demons come from, if they come from christian then indeed they where pure evil since they where created by lucifer to really be all the corruption and evilness as possible to be opposite to angels which where supposed to be "pure and good", if the demons used here come from Christian mithy them they really where supposed to be evil.

this somehow i agree with the original post, many "otakus" like to use "demons" reference from Christian myth but in a MOE distorted way which make demons be like "cute girls" doing cute things which are "more nice than even angels", this really happen a lot in manga/anime/novels and sometimes it's can really disturb a little the plot specially when the reason is clear being just for fanservice/ eye candy or a cheap trick to get readers/watchers more "emotionally attached to it, however this don't means which they are not supposed to do that and are obligated to follow "100%" the source, they can do whatever they want, it's just sometimes make things dumb or less believable, but it's possible and common to happen, it's not like is the first time they will do that and not the last one too.

the demons here look more like "youkais" or just a "regular race" like elfs, trolls, lizardsmans and others rater than just a nasty paria creation from corrupted souls.

to be clear i'm not saying which this anime is totally this case but i can see where that post come and understood his feelings.
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Old 2017-07-06, 19:05   Link #54
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yeah what it's matter is "from what myth" or religion the demons come from, if they come from christian then indeed they where pure evil since they where created by lucifer to really be all the corruption and evilness as possible to be opposite to angels which where supposed to be "pure and good", if the demons used here come from Christian mithy them they really where supposed to be evil.
That is literally wrong.

The Bible is very clear, names of actual Middle Eastern deities were used in the Old Testament and described as demons. What you are saying is directly contradicting the written holy word of god. Whenere did you hear that from?

Are you in fact, denying that Baal the god of the Phoenicians, was turned into a demon by the Abraham religion?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal_(demon)
Yes, of course Baal was suppose to be evil according to Abraham, but the point is he is wrong.

Baal was just a competing god, so Abraham's people made Baal evil as defamation. Are you going to prove it otherwise?

And going back to the original point, that yes, demons are the first to be demonised. They are not evil, their enemies made up lies. And thus it is discrimination.

And really, what's next? Are you going to tell me Babylonians are rapists because the Bible said so?
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Old 2017-07-06, 19:35   Link #55
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That is literally wrong.

The Bible is very clear, names of actual Middle Eastern deities were used in the Old Testament and described as demons. What you are saying is directly contradicting the written holy word of god. Whenere did you hear that from?

Are you in fact, denying that Baal the god of the Phoenicians, was turned into a demon by the Abraham religion?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal_(demon)
Yes, of course Baal was suppose to be evil according to Abraham, but the point is he is wrong.

Baal was just a competing god, so Abraham's people made Baal evil as defamation. Are you going to prove it otherwise?

And going back to the original point, that yes, demons are the first to be demonised. They are not evil, their enemies made up lies. And thus it is discrimination.

And really, what's next? Are you going to tell me Babylonians are rapists because the Bible said so?
not really all demons from bible not where just "others gods being demonized", we also have lucifer which gave birth to evil demons too, which make it not "totally wrong as you claim.

i'm just point one aspect of it, ofcourse bible demonized others gods but this don't means which "evil demons not existed or even "evil gods".

and his point was to point how to otakus love to "moe" everything even things which where supposed to be "evil to the core" like cutulun deits, demons inspired from lucifer and even others "evil deitys which japan love to "moe" and turn all in "hot girls" or moe girls" for the sake of fanservice, and i'm pretty sure which 70 to 80% of that moe or too hot girlished character if you go to they "real look and origin" you gonna se the "problem" is you "completely Deprive a character just to appeal some weirds fetiches, is the same i create a hot chicken and call it the "cracken" which we know having nothing really in common with it.

the point is not "religion" but how otakus like to "moeblob the things.
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Old 2017-07-07, 01:45   Link #56
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Even putting aside eastern deities, you are still wrong. Biblical demons are fallen angels that followed Lucifer. Lucifer himself Is said to be unable create (that's God domain), and thus didn't "gave birth' anything.

Painting demons as anything m, but pure evil is not really matter of moe, neither something unique to Japan. Reason for that is simple, modern literature don't like using Black and White morality so subverting natural roles of Demons and Angels are matter of course. That's all to it.
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Old 2017-07-07, 02:47   Link #57
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Oy. This is a fantasy setting, with a fantasy race of beings being called demons. This is not a Biblical setting. Can we please be leaving our real-world religions out of these discussions.
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Old 2017-07-07, 03:45   Link #58
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Even putting aside eastern deities, you are still wrong. Biblical demons are fallen angels that followed Lucifer. Lucifer himself Is said to be unable create (that's God domain), and thus didn't "gave birth' anything.

Painting demons as anything m, but pure evil is not really matter of moe, neither something unique to Japan. Reason for that is simple, modern literature don't like using Black and White morality so subverting natural roles of Demons and Angels are matter of course. That's all to it.
ok i'm not really a "master in religion to be honest, i only know enough about it to know what is right and wrong, then i really can't argue too much toward it, however is not really clear with all demons are only fallen angels:
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In Ancient Near Eastern religions as well as in the Abrahamic traditions, including ancient and medieval Christian demonology, a demon is considered an unclean spirit, a fallen angel, or a spirit of unknown type which may cause demonic possession, calling for an exorcism. In Western occultism and Renaissance magic, which grew out of an amalgamation of Greco-Roman magic, Jewish Aggadah and Christian demonology,[2] a demon is believed to be a spiritual entity that may be conjured and controlled.
while lucifer can't create life he can corrupt it to turn it in another thing and that is how he "create demons" by corrupting fallen human souls in the same way he corrupted the angels which followed him, at last that is what i understood
this means which not only fallen angels but totally corrupted souls could be turned in demons later, but overal demons where really supposed to be "evil" at last that demons not "all type of demons".

but this don't change the point which that demons where pure evil and they where supposed to live only to destroy human race which was what started the heavens wars if i'm not wrong, which was lucifer envy/jelly toward god loves over mankind, i could be wrong ofcourse but that is what i know so far.

while is common to have "subversion and normally i don't mind, my problem is how "otakus do that' most of the times is just for "fanservice"/fetiche or to make sure get good sales not really "because of plot" demands, is the same like getting king arthur and turn him in a "teen cute/hot girl,, for the sake of "otakus desires", that is normally make me a little annoyed, but still bearable most of the times( sometimes is really hard to take it), others medias when do that things they don't do "just for that" which make then look more acceptable than what we get on anime/manga/novel most of the times.
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Oy. This is a fantasy setting, with a fantasy race of beings being called demons. This is not a Biblical setting. Can we please be leaving our real-world religions out of these discussions.
yeah, i really don't want it be a "religion war or something like that and like you told this is a fantasy setting and while can look weird see things being moe

well whatever so far it's really a good SoL and i'm looking foward for the next episode.

the girl is just a "race" demonstyle in her world which are just a "race" wich can be full evil or not(well to be honest based on her background they do look like evil since they casted her away as a "paria" for not being full demon and human just "trying to avoid/ignore her not really threatning her.
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Old 2017-07-07, 12:40   Link #59
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I don't know where this leads, but i'm liking it. It's very relaxing to watch.

And they say this season doesn't have any good shows..
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Old 2017-07-07, 13:09   Link #60
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Now that I think about it, have we ever had a cooking series where people enjoy food for what it is, and there is no "exaggerated reaction"?
Yakitate completely went nuts and kinda became a parody of itself towards the end ,
and I don't need to mention Soma or Koufuki Graffiti, right? Dem "graphics" that is

Amaama to Inazuma is close, but I never felt "cooking for the sake of cooking" was the main focus, it was more about the characters dealing with their personal problems
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