2013-01-04, 21:24 | Link #381 |
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so um long war between humans & demons being going to one day the blue hero go charge in to slay demon king but surprise demon ruler is woman with big "meat". give demon ruler/ruby eyes had waiting for hero to come give to explain all about the human vs demon war is like economics business to if go no matter who wins it will lead to everyone loses on this war. so showing memory lantern, reasons to side with ruby eyes, & deals talkings so blue hero agree to contract to side with ruby eyes so all set now team-up find safer way peaceful way to end the battles. all set give huh memory lantern show ruby eyes with blue hero pillow size & her horn were fake with that now the journey begins.
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2013-01-04, 21:28 | Link #382 | |
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Is the book merely an edited version of the 2ch threads or an adaptation of the story? |
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2013-01-04, 22:04 | Link #383 | |
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One thing the book does is patch up plot holes created by the fact that the author was literally making up and posting the story as he went along. I'm not sure how many people in the thread realize this, but what you saw in episode 1 was originally intended to be a stand-alone story that was posted on 2ch. It ended where the episode did, with the Demon King and Hero agreeing to join forces to stop the war. The response to the story was so positive that the author kept writing it, and it was posted piece by piece over the span of like 2 years. Naturally, this left some plot holes. For instance, in the original version of the episode, the Demon King says, "That's why the Human kings sent you here alone, instead of using their armies." The Hero's party was something that was introduced later once he had to turn it into a real story. The book fixes up all these and makes it into one coherent piece. |
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2013-01-04, 22:35 | Link #384 |
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Hmmm.... well I have to hand it to the show for being unapologetic on its rather utilitarian views on war. Which is sort of true in a way, as our own history shows how much war itself has fueled many of humanity's major advancement over hundreds of years.
At least it admits that at the end, while many members of society readily admit how necessary war is for the ironic survival of mankind and demonkind alike, there are still those who want to find a way for everyone to live in peace and prosperity in a time when war is no longer needed. Most importantly, I haven't seriously laughed in a while until she took off her horned headband lol.
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2013-01-04, 22:36 | Link #385 | |
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I find the hero depressingly "generic male lead"ish. If anything is going to turn me off towards the series, it'll be him.
Could someone explain the companions? Is there one mage (starting at about the 6 minute point), or three? Because it looked like the same person, but the clothes and hair color changed. Quote:
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2013-01-04, 22:44 | Link #386 |
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Well the series is certainly Keynesian in it's promotion of War as an economic driver of sorts.
On the other hand I do like it's simplistic surface yet fun and educational views. It's nice that they're doing the more humorous adaptation for it. :P
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2013-01-04, 23:04 | Link #389 |
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A pretty good adaptation of the story. Although, I am a big fan of the Ishida Akira version the starting episode managed to capture most of the important world building elements. I especially liked how they managed to introduce the important political and major characters of the story in response to Hero's questions.
A bit disappointed that DQ is now DK though, although I'll get over it. She will always be DQ in my mind at least. The backgrounds were all very well done giving a charming fairy tale vibe throughout the episode. Most character designs remain good, although I feel that the worst offenders would be the merchant's overall appearance being downright atrocious to look at. The most unexpected thing was the dakimura which caught me completely by surprise. I laughed, but it felt kind of forced in the context of things. Maybe it was a sense of pandering from the writers to include that scene.
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2013-01-04, 23:18 | Link #390 | |
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2013-01-04, 23:18 | Link #391 |
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Yea I'm going to agree with you on this assumption. Even thought the scene was both funny and cute it did feel kind of shoe horned in there. They could've used the time to show more of the Hero questioning the whole reason for him becoming a Hero in the first place.
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2013-01-04, 23:22 | Link #392 | |
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What you see instead is war as a unifying force: both the demons and humans uniting to face a common enemy, with the attendant economic benefits that that brings. This is something that's in a lot of shows. What makes MaoYuu unique, at least in my experience, is the idea of war as something that the civilization depends on, that the entire world is now depending on this war, and the short-term shock from ending it will be so big that it threatens to swamp the whole society and kill millions of people. |
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2013-01-04, 23:31 | Link #394 | |
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In MaoYuu if the war stops everyone dies. |
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2013-01-04, 23:44 | Link #395 |
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An impression I'm getting is that Maou would like there to be another option: some way to solve the problems she stated without having to constantly be at war, and she's hoping the hero can actually help her find one. I don't think she's really saying that the war is good so much as she's just pointing out that the consequences of ending it would be worse than letting it continue, unless they can work out some other solution for the issues that the war is currently providing the solution for.
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2013-01-04, 23:47 | Link #396 | |
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2013-01-04, 23:50 | Link #397 | |
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Also me likes that Young Merchant showed up through the Q&A portion. Probably my favorite character in this series.
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2013-01-04, 23:58 | Link #398 | |
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Spoiler for War in 1984:
The main difference is a matter of duration. The war in Maoyu has been going for 15 or so years, with none of it affecting the central nations directly. Eventually, the fact that the production of the war-stimulated economy in Maoyu is going directly to be destroyed in the war may catch up to the countries and result in economic downturn (massive government debt, inflation, etc), but in the short run it can lead to positive results. I don't know if Maoyu touches on this subject, but it's not just a matter of humanity to end the war but that some economic models predict that the war boom is not sustainable in the long term.
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2013-01-05, 00:00 | Link #399 | |
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It's like saying doing the work at the last minute forces you to focus and do things faster. When in reality you could have done exactly the same thing months ahead and save yourself the stress. The misconception wars are beneficial is caused by the fact that it sucks money from future generations by going into debt, to cause a boost in project funding. And then in peace time we spend everything to pay off that debt. If you want the benefits of war and not the bloody corpses, you can just create a fake war budget and spent that money on R&D. It would be the same thing, and is essentially what we call "Fiscal Stimulus" these days.
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