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shalala · 2013-03-31, 12:55

Soooooo seeing how we will be get the Magnostadt arc. Does tht mean it will come with flashbacks?

chaos_animagic · 2013-03-31, 15:00

Well... if they're doing a 2nd season for Mag Arc...

Are they going to show...

Spoiler for manga spoiler:

BTW, I bet a certain magi will get butchered too, turn their personality from caring to extreme emo, LOL. (hay, it creates drama, people loves drama - the excuse)

mangamuscle · 2013-03-31, 15:06

Yet after all the moaning I bet each and everyone will be back to post about the second season when it starts -_-;

roon · 2013-03-31, 15:19

^ Nope, I can't even bring myself to finish watching it anymore. Though I hear Mor is back in the finale, so I might just watch for her scenes alone.

I was actually hoping the second season announcement was an April Fools joke, but I guess they announced it 3/31... ;<

mistress_kisara · 2013-03-31, 16:01

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Originally Posted by ogon_bat

Yet after all the moaning I bet each and everyone will be back to post about the second season when it starts -_-;

Yep I'll still watch it! Despite its flaws I still did enjoy the anime! XD

MAX_COLA_POWER! · 2013-03-31, 16:05

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...quel-this-fall and we got this

ChampDream · 2013-03-31, 16:21

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Originally Posted by Kanon

Actually...

Spoiler for Heresy:

never expect to see that

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Originally Posted by MAX_COLA_POWER!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...quel-this-fall and we got this

well let just hope is better then this, which I doubt

mangamuscle · 2013-03-31, 16:36

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Originally Posted by mistress_kisara

Yep I'll still watch it! Despite its flaws I still did enjoy the anime! XD

Me too, I am talking about all the people to seem to hate the anime yet for some odd reason have not dropped it like 99.99% of people do when they see an anime they dislike.

This is getting ridiculous to be honest, the "book/manga/whatever is best than the adaption" is nothing new, that is why there is an Oscar award for best adaption, because it is not a given that an adaption will be good. Having said that, this adaption is different but not inherently flawed, otherwise the mangaka would have blocked it since he is the owner of Magi. By itself the anime is entertaining, for flawed adaptions this season take a look at Maoyuu Maou Yuusha.

Justin_Brett · 2013-03-31, 16:53

Altering a main character's personality because you felt he wasn't immature enough is quite flawed.

Randrak42 · 2013-03-31, 17:01

Haven't even bothered watching the latest few episodes and likely won't...nor will I likely watch the second season unless I hear they made up for the character assassination and stay faithful.

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Originally Posted by ogon_bat

This is getting ridiculous to be honest, the "book/manga/whatever is best than the adaption" is nothing new, that is why there is an Oscar award for best adaption, because it is not a given that an adaption will be good. Having said that, this adaption is different but not inherently flawed, otherwise the mangaka would have blocked it since he is the owner of Magi. By itself the anime is entertaining, for flawed adaptions this season take a look at Maoyuu Maou Yuusha.

It's not a matter of "The manga is better than the anime" it's a matter of the anime practically ruining a main character's personality without a reason along with a few minor problems...that is what is annoying people enough to drop it.
If an anime wants to change parts of the original source then fine (I personally don't like it but done right, it can be entertaining), but changing a character completely is just wrong.

Also giving Mor panties...WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?

Dr. Casey · 2013-03-31, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Randrak42

Also giving Mor panties...WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?

maybe she just wanted to see if Alibaba would notice

kinda like how girls sometimes change their hairstyle to see if the guy they like will notice, except more awesome because Morgiana herself is more awesome

Edit: I just noticed that one of the tags is 'what the hell is going on."

Awesome.

ChampDream · 2013-03-31, 17:13

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Originally Posted by ogon_bat

Me too, I am talking about all the people to seem to hate the anime yet for some odd reason have not dropped it like 99.99% of people do when they see an anime they dislike.

I just keep watching to see if I should expect something good when the next season come, anyway, the only think I like is that they try to make Morg have more moments in the anime then the manga ( except her "new panties"), but I guess everybody agree that they did mess Alibaba up pretty good ( he more cool in the manga).

Archon_Wing · 2013-03-31, 17:29

Lol. So is Yoshino really responsible for the mess? I guess I never had an high opinion of him, but I suppose the best analogy is that following his quality is pretty much like veering off the edge of a cliff and then falling through the ground.

Reckoner · 2013-03-31, 17:39

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Originally Posted by ogon_bat

This is getting ridiculous to be honest, the "book/manga/whatever is best than the adaption" is nothing new, that is why there is an Oscar award for best adaption, because it is not a given that an adaption will be good. Having said that, this adaption is different but not inherently flawed, otherwise the mangaka would have blocked it since he is the owner of Magi. By itself the anime is entertaining, for flawed adaptions this season take a look at Maoyuu Maou Yuusha.

Maoyuu Maou Yuusha is an equally terrible adaption so that's not saying much. But the problem is that this anime has been incredibly rushed from the beginning. 6 chapters per episode is basically garbage pacing for a typical shonen anime. No it doesn't need to adapt at Naruto or One Piece pace, but 6 chapters is just ridiculous. Especially when they said this anime was supposed to end with Balibadd to begin with.

The fact that they raced to some shitty anime original arc where they massacred the characterization of Alibaba from the manga, and yet they were planning a season 2 all along... It's just so pitiful. They could have ended the anime after Balibadd afterall, paced it better and given it better production values. It would've been successful, they would've had more material for a possible second season in the future...

This is just a production disaster and I don't see how one can spin it any other way. I knew the anime botched the manga before I even picked up the manga, which thank god I did because I wouldn't have realized how amazing the manga is otherwise.

mangamuscle · 2013-03-31, 17:40

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Originally Posted by Randrak42

it's a matter of the anime practically ruining a main character's personality without a reason along with a few minor problems...that is what is annoying people enough to drop it.
If an anime wants to change parts of the original source then fine (I personally don't like it but done right, it can be entertaining), but changing a character completely is just wrong.

Only that you need to read the original manga to even notice, so it is just another case of fanboyism, like all the droves of harry potter fans that say how terrible the movies are. If an adaption is bad you can notice just by seeing said adaption.

If the mange/LN/novel is better is beyond the fact, since most of the time that is the case, no need to keep ranting about how blue is the sky.

@Reckoner Ditto.

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Also giving Mor panties...WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?

With the recent changes in Tokyo law (which has been covered in this and many other forums) I am not surprised someone was afraid of attracting unwanted attention, I will be very surprised if said panties are in the BD/DVD release.

Reckoner · 2013-03-31, 17:47

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Originally Posted by ogon_bat

@Reckoner Ditto.

Check out my earlier posts in this thread during the beginning parts of Magi. I never read the manga, but I was complaining about pacing issues. I felt the pacing issues even before I knew anything of the manga. The manga just made it even more severely clear.

Plus there's a saying... If it ain't broke, don't fix it right? What was Yoshino and A-1 thinking here?

mangamuscle · 2013-03-31, 18:03

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Originally Posted by Reckoner

Check out my earlier posts in this thread during the beginning parts of Magi. I never read the manga, but I was complaining about pacing issues. I felt the pacing issues even before I knew anything of the manga. The manga just made it even more severely clear.

I saw the same Magi as you and saw no pacing issues, how can you know a story is too fast or too slow unless you compare it with the original or another adaption? is like guessing the speed of the car with your eyes closed.
But from the start I have seen tons of post of rabid fans that have made many people like yourself go check the original material and surprise, surprise, after doing a comparison you saw there was more material in the original. Sometimes it is the opposite. But I am fed up about them saying it is broken just because it is different from the source material, that is fanboyism.

BTW, I have seen the Magi manga, but only the latest chapters so my anime enjoyment is not ruined, it is a rule of the thumb, like not eating sweets before dinner.

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Plus there's a saying... If it ain't broke, don't fix it right? What was Yoshino and A-1 thinking here?

Happens all the time, sometimes it can ruin the adaption, sometimes it can enhance it, but here it just makes it different.

Randrak42 · 2013-03-31, 18:43

You don't need to have read the manga to notice that a character's personality is being done horribly, there have been more than a few people that complain about the way they portrayed Alibaba character in the later episodes.

It's not a comparison with manga but just observation of the development of the character which (even to anime only viewers) went from 1 to 10 and then suddenly back to 3 for no reason.

You also don't need to have read the original story to know if pacing is being done right or wrong...hell you can even judge if a manga's pace is good or bad...

Myssa Rei · 2013-03-31, 18:58

Thing is, this is the type of stunt a studio pulls whenever they're unsure if there's going to be a continuation, so at least the show can end on a climax (see how 12-episode romantic comedies churn out the drama during the last two episodes a lot of the times). If they already knew beforehand that they were getting an extension, all of this nonsense wouldn't have been needed.

mangamuscle · 2013-03-31, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Randrak42

You don't need to have read the manga to notice that a character's personality is being done horribly

So without making any reference to the manga explain in one paragraph what is "done horribly".

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there have been more than a few people that complain about the way they portrayed Alibaba character in the later episodes.

Again, those were manga readers or anime readers that read the manga to see what the hoopla was about.

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You also don't need to have read the original story to know if pacing is being done right or wrong...hell you can even judge if a manga's pace is good or bad...

I repeat myself, whitout quoting the manga tell us in one paragraph what is "done wrong".

2013-03-31, 15:00	Link #1882
chaos_animagic Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	Well... if they're doing a 2nd season for Mag Arc... Are they going to show... Spoiler for manga spoiler: the 5th district's "free-for-all sex" scenes? and people being thrown into holes to die? And Magno's Hitler-style like speech for reformation... BTW, I bet a certain magi will get butchered too, turn their personality from caring to extreme emo, LOL. (hay, it creates drama, people loves drama - the excuse)

2013-03-31, 16:05	Link #1886
MAX_COLA_POWER! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Puerto Rico	http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...quel-this-fall and we got this __________________ She's in your internets, watching you masterdebate.

2013-03-31, 18:58	Link #1899
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Thing is, this is the type of stunt a studio pulls whenever they're unsure if there's going to be a continuation, so at least the show can end on a climax (see how 12-episode romantic comedies churn out the drama during the last two episodes a lot of the times). If they already knew beforehand that they were getting an extension, all of this nonsense wouldn't have been needed. __________________

2013-03-31, 12:55	Link #1881
shalala Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Under the 7 seas	Soooooo seeing how we will be get the Magnostadt arc. Does tht mean it will come with flashbacks?

2013-03-31, 15:06	Link #1883
mangamuscle formerly ogon bat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Mexico Age: 53	Yet after all the moaning I bet each and everyone will be back to post about the second season when it starts -_-;

2013-03-31, 15:19	Link #1884
roon _(:q 」∠)_ _(ФωФ」∠)_ Artist* Join Date: Dec 2005	^ Nope, I can't even bring myself to finish watching it anymore. Though I hear Mor is back in the finale, so I might just watch for her scenes alone. I was actually hoping the second season announcement was an April Fools joke, but I guess they announced it 3/31... ;<

2013-03-31, 16:53	Link #1889
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	Altering a main character's personality because you felt he wasn't immature enough is quite flawed.

2013-03-31, 18:43	Link #1898
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	You don't need to have read the manga to notice that a character's personality is being done horribly, there have been more than a few people that complain about the way they portrayed Alibaba character in the later episodes. It's not a comparison with manga but just observation of the development of the character which (even to anime only viewers) went from 1 to 10 and then suddenly back to 3 for no reason. You also don't need to have read the original story to know if pacing is being done right or wrong...hell you can even judge if a manga's pace is good or bad...