To Aru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Discussion (Archives)

[desrtsku]

Originally Posted by shmaster

Book come in by mail, finished reading......

Spoiler:

Geee Birdway is such an evil master mind. She certainly is using all means possible to crush Gremlin.

Apparently, this entire Hawaii incident got used by her as a way to shatter the alliance between the Academy City and its 27 Alliance Conglomerate, AKA completely crushing the power structure of the science side, plummeting it into a science side civil war.
She knowingly knows that the entire incident is being spied through F.C.E., she knowingly displayed the incident in a way that as if Academy is interfering with US's internal affair so that the 27 Allance Conglomerate would grow distrustful of Academy City.
Now Academy City has become completely isolated, and its 27 former comrade are now ready yo defect to the Gremlins. By getting And Birdway did all this just to lure the core members of Gremlin to make their move.

And it seems the core Gremlin members are the Norse mages (Odin and Marian), no one else. All other member are pawns being manipulated by the core members.
Odin and Marian- Trying to retrieve Gungir
Other Members- Loser of WW3 who try to turn the table that end up as the convenient chess pieces for the core members.

In the Hawaii incident, Odin and Marian has achieved their goal the moment the volcano erupted. Everything else is conducted by the other members who wants to start a coup in US.

Loli Tyrant?

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

No doubt they are special, but when did we draw the connection that Awakening is base on power type? Isn't it more like both their brains could process strange Data? Accelerator awakened while hearing Index's song, Kakine's awakened while looking at Accelerator's Wings....

Maybe when it was assumed that only them can control dark matter. Well, I don't really know what's the real deal about awakening either either, but assuming that one would awoke only when his/her brain processes weird values then Touma would never "awake" (he isn't even able to precess a high school level math problem, mind you) >_>.
The "Epiphany" ... maybe but, then would someone mind explaining to me where the hell did Pendex get those crimson Wings while being a cold and emotionless?!! Or should we class the crimson wings out of the "awakening" category.

[Daft]

Touma isn't that bad at math. In vol.20 he was measuring Russia's countryside with some 1m lengths of string. Plus, didn't Komoe-sensei pretty much allude to his intelligence in NT vol.2 in response to his absences.?

“Whether you are smart or not, you are going to get bad grades on your tests if you never even take in the fundamental knowledge. I doubt he has just been sleeping this whole time, so something must have been entering his head in place of his lessons… Just what could be filling Kamijou-chan’s head?”

He's just damn lazy outside of life and death situations (who would be?)...and is horrible with languages.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by desrtsku

The "Epiphany" ... maybe but, then would someone mind explaining to me where the hell did Pendex get those crimson Wings while being a cold and emotionless?!! Or should we class the crimson wings out of the "awakening" category.

Her Johan's pen mode restrains her emotions it doesn't means they aren't struggling inside her, I recall a part in the novels (vol. 20) descrbing how Stiyl will have to face the fury of the one who holds 103,000 grimoires. Imo, the wings has something to do with the knowledge from Fiamma that flowed into her mind when he used the spiritual remote control since the end of the civil war. My guess, is that is going to play a role for the maijin candidates current struggling.

[desrtsku]

Indeed, that sounds plausible (though I thought "fury" was just an image describing how fierce the situation was :/). So basically, these wings places her in a higher plane of existence closer to the Majin ... yeah, why not.

Originally Posted by Daft

Touma isn't that bad at math. In vol.20 he was measuring Russia's countryside with some 1m lengths of string. Plus, didn't Komoe-sensei pretty much allude to his intelligence in NT vol.2 in response to his absences.?
He's just damn lazy outside of life and death situations (who would be?)...and is horrible with languages.

My bad, I meant his intellect can't be compared to genius like the level 5s ^^ (referring to how Miko-chin easily resolves his math homeworks in a blink of an eye despite being a middle schoolgirl ... and pretty much how Etzali did the same when the imagine breaker boy was struggling and on the verge of crying xD). He's clever indeed, but even so, I don't think he could understand or process anything about something so complex as dark matter (with which he doesn't even have real basic knowledges) is if he saw it ... wait, he saw it once and nothing Accelerator/Kakine-ish happened.

[Daft]

Well if you put it that way, then the only 'epiphany' Touma can actually have is him figuring out who/what he is. Kind of lame in that regard. When his hax powers are finally explained they better continue to rely more on natural instinct as implied and not some intellectual algorithm considering he doesn't study at all. How many days of class has he missed anyway?

[ovum]

If he keeps it up he might get into the same class as Mikoto.

. and pretty much how Etzali did the same when the imagine breaker boy was struggling and on the verge of crying xD

I thought Etzali failed aswell?

[cleed]

Spoiler for WORST troll ever:

“What’s the point of an original if she loses to the clone in so many ways?”

“…Are you talking about breast size…?”

Sparks flew from the 14 year old’s bangs as she cocked her head to the side slightly.

Paying the sparks no heed, Misaka Worst said, “Oh, Misaka never said that. Maybe she was talking about number of appearances.”

“Now you’ve said it!!”

oh boy here we go!

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by ovum

I thought Etzali failed aswell?

No, Mr. Stalker has studied science enough to use chemical weapons on his advantage when in dangerous situations.

[mark1246]

I know the author put the Character with the other Character (Misaka meeting with Misaka Worst) for screen time with them but i wish he put 2 thing before that

1. Really wanted to see Misaka Reaction to the new Misaka worst clone and Accelerator when she first met them

2. How did they get Separated after the Crowd Clear when Birdway took that magician down!? I mean wasn’t touma holding misaka hand really tight? I mean i know he can let go by accident but i can’t think of any situation that can lead to that . Also happy index is not there (no I’m not a index hater) but we get more misaka time

PS: it would make a great fanfic for what happen in the plane to hawaii! would of been funny to see misaka reaction sitting next to touma for 7hrs or so. Also wanted to see that too in the NOvel AUGHH!!

[Nayrael]

So Worst-chan... how come YOU know so much about Cupid Arrow?

[Twi]

Originally Posted by Nayrael

So Worst-chan... how come YOU know so much about Cupid Arrow?

Maybe she has a thing for her "Otou-san" *Hint Hint*

[Mr.Kyon]

Originally Posted by Nayrael

So Worst-chan... how come YOU know so much about Cupid Arrow?

That's it, next fic popping up now.

[Flere821]

*reads Worst trolling Mikoto*

Oh yeah, Go Worst

And the Chinese translators finished the last 10% before js06 did:

Spoiler for last 10%:

Cinderella offed herself when Bardway and Accel tried to interrogate her. Bardway got nothing out of Cinderella. Someone possessed Cinderella and talked to Bardway and was responsible for Cinderella's suicide.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Flere821

*reads Worst trolling Mikoto*

Oh yeah, Go Worst

And the Chinese translators finished the last 10% before js06 did:

Spoiler for last 10%:

Cinderella offed herself when Bardway and Accel tried to interrogate her. Bardway got nothing out of Cinderella. Someone possessed Cinderella and talked to Bardway and was responsible for Cinderella's suicide.

...And this is why I wanted them to be polygons instead of cute girls =_= What a waste...

[Nayrael]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

...And this is why I wanted them to be polygons instead of cute girls =_= What a waste...

Looking at js06's translation, there might still be hope for her actually.

[arson88]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

...And this is why I wanted them to be polygons instead of cute girls =_= What a waste...

That is true.

Conclusion of this chapter: Worst-san trolls are the best

[classic]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

...And this is why I wanted them to be polygons instead of cute girls =_= What a waste...

Yeah...
What a pity( I think this is the most fast end of a story for a character who even have a full drawning.
Well, if it`s a subarachnoid hemorrhage she still have some hope. Not much through/

[Syed_Seinaru_Migi]

What the.. such a waste cute new girl character....i thought she is one of new Touma ha....oh wait what did i say just now ....oh well Kamachi already give her ending for this new characters...

[tarajis]

Originally Posted by Flere821

And the Chinese translators finished the last 10% before js06 did:

Spoiler for last 10%:

Cinderella offed herself when Bardway and Accel tried to interrogate her. Bardway got nothing out of Cinderella. Someone possessed Cinderella and talked to Bardway and was responsible for Cinderella's suicide.

Poor Cinderella... got maltreated by her stepmom and stepsisters... then when she got her one night fantasy to dance with a prince... she got maltreated by Bardway (still in denial) instead... it's like time's up and instead the clock striking midnight she got smacked with a fuel truck waking her up from her fantasy... Bardway (still in denial) dragging her off by the hair and literally sweeping the floor with her...

Cinderella was beaten, battered and humiliated... worst fairy tale ending ever...

Bardway (still in denial) just became Fairy Tale's worst Nightmare...

[RPG_Fanatic]

Originally Posted by cleed

Spoiler for WORST troll ever:

“What’s the point of an original if she loses to the clone in so many ways?”

“…Are you talking about breast size…?”

Sparks flew from the 14 year old’s bangs as she cocked her head to the side slightly.

Paying the sparks no heed, Misaka Worst said, “Oh, Misaka never said that. Maybe she was talking about number of appearances.”

“Now you’ve said it!!”

oh boy here we go!

That part was amazing. I'm looking forward to the next chapter.

I want to see how Kuroyoru acts around Touma.