The General Discussion of Haruhi Suzumiya

[Heminga13]

There is no "filler" in Haruhi unless you count some of the E8 episodes. "Filler" implies "bad" and the two best episodes of Haruhi (Live Alive and Day of Sagittarius) are what some would call "filler" by dint of them not being a part of the overall arc. There are just arc episodes and standalone episodes, much like other cornerstone animes.

I thought filler was just non-canon (compared to the source material) stuff.

[npal]

Originally Posted by Heminga13

I thought filler was just non-canon (compared to the source material) stuff.

Indeed, some people just have that mixed up.

[Godly_senselessness]

Hi,could someone tell me where from i should start viewing this series?I heard it's boring from one ep to another.I liked the first season.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by Godly_senselessness

Hi,could someone tell me where from i should start viewing this series?I heard it's boring from one ep to another.I liked the first season.

You have already watched the first season? Then just watch the new ones in order. Is not 'boring', is actually the only wayt it make sense (unlike the original season).

Or you could re-watch the old episodes if you feel like it. Anyway, for the new season, you should watch in chronological order.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Originally Posted by Heminga13

I thought filler was just non-canon (compared to the source material) stuff.

He said "implies." Given the usual result of filler material, the comparison isn't exactly unwarranted.

[kenshin-dono]

oh sweet zombie jesus... i should have listened to you guys and only watched one or 2 epps of endless 8. Since i have a cold and am doing nothing but watching anime ( i hate tv, never watch it other than southpark and dexter) I figured 'what the hell' and watched all 8 episodes... i actually fell asleep at one point. What the hell were they thinking? Well.. obviously to pad the show and milk money from fans but come on, that was unbearable. EIGHT?! I was expecing some changes or something but it was the same exact thing with different clothes and angles

ungh.. this totally killed the series for me. Seriously I dont even want to watch anymore but i guess i may as well finish it. Hopefully the next few epps are REALLY good. blea

to anyone wondering on view order FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! just skip endless 8. watch maybe the first and last, or 2nd and last and thats IT. Even the ending was lame.. really? thats all it took? christ. I was expecting him to add 'summer romance' or something to the list

blea im disgusted with this show

[npal]

Well, for the devil's advocate part, both the Bamboo ep and the Sigh eps were rather good after the Endless Fail fiasco, so you won't lose anything from watching Sigh since you already watched the troll eps.

[mammothb]

haha i guess the producers took the meaning of endless eight literally and made 8 episodes? in the novel they only wrote about what happened in the last E8(can u imagine having to read the endless eight chapters over and over again 8 times!?) and from the genre description on some anime site there was no romance inside :/ but i somehow felt a small bit of romance may start at the end of the last ep. so maybe if they make another season they will add romance into it?

oh btw, in the showing order of the 2nd season(the 28episodes) the last episode used was the exact same one as the first season's rit? because it felt kind of strange for me as last episodes usually end with some kind of epilogue that eats into the ending song(like melancholy VI)

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by kenshin-dono

blea im disgusted with this show

And that is why we told you not to watch Endless Eight.

Sighs is damn good, and the four remaining S1 episodes, if you haven't already watched them, are probably the best of the original season.

[Ithekro]

Why...oh why do I want to put an evil laugh here? I'm trying to decide if it should be one of the old classical evil villian type laughs (the start slow and low and built up to loud and insane), or stick to the more modern Beatrice type (just go for loud and crazy from the start).

Now imagine...instead of going through those eight episodes in a day, spending two months on it. Two months. While in just a few hours that ending might not seem worth it, but believe me, after two months, that ending was considered Epic. Over the top music, over the top hot blooded shouting over an mundane solution followed by a tsundere responce...after two months of being bored...it was perfect.

(Last episode of the current season airs later today, title is "Someday in the Rain")

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

It's a shame the rest of E8 VIII was bad, even by E8 standards.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

It's a shame the rest of E8 VIII was bad, even by E8 standards.

I really don't think this at all. I remember E8VII even less than any of the other episodes.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Then tell me. What, aside from the ending, was good about the last one?

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

Then tell me. What, aside from the ending, was good about the last one?

The art style. Aside from that and the ending, nothing else, but every E8 except III and VII did something artistic that I thought was cool.

What was so good about VII again...?

[Ice Block]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

What was so good about VII again...?

THREE DAYS?! Kyon's hand in his butt. ENDLESS Shopping Mall.

Though I agree with quigonkenny that V was the best of the failed loops. It didn't have II's KyoAni lens flare, as Kaoishin likes to call it, but it had the quirks, angles and details of old-school Haruhi fame (plus it had around Sigh IV art quality):

• spinning clock
• reflection shots
• background characters doing something significant
• Nagato's apartment + airplane
• cellphone calculator
• Koizumi's exaggerated hand gestures
• melancholic music in revelation scene, instead of the usual ominous BGM
• loop in a loop
• playground scene
• and of course, Koizumi in a speedo

[mammothb]

the light novel series is not completed rit?

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by Ice Block

THREE DAYS?! Kyon's hand in his butt. ENDLESS Shopping Mall.

There was also the Rambo Kyon firing fireworks.

Originally Posted by Ice Block

Though I agree with quigonkenny that V was the best of the failed loops. It didn't have II's KyoAni lens flare, as Kaoishin likes to call it, but it had the quirks, angles and details of old-school Haruhi fame (plus it had around Sigh IV art quality):

• spinning clock
• reflection shots
• background characters doing something significant
• Nagato's apartment + airplane
• cellphone calculator
• Koizumi's exaggerated hand gestures
• melancholic music in revelation scene, instead of the usual ominous BGM
• loop in a loop
• playground scene
• and of course, Koizumi in a speedo

They also vary a bit the background here. Showing more the courage test, having the cicada hunt in the same temple they go on Sighs and having they play in that spining sphere.

I frankly think that if they did the same for all episodes, it would be considerable less tiresome.

[Joe4evr]

Originally Posted by Ice Block

• and of course, Koizumi in a speedo

Much lulz were had from this on a certain blog.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Ice Block

THREE DAYS?! Kyon's hand in his butt. ENDLESS Shopping Mall.

Okay, maybe THREE DAYS!? is worth watching that episode for.

Heck, except for III, they're all worth watching, I guess. You just need the right mindset...

Originally Posted by Ice Block

Though I agree with quigonkenny that V was the best of the failed loops. It didn't have II's KyoAni lens flare, as Kaoishin likes to call it, but it had the quirks, angles and details of old-school Haruhi fame (plus it had around Sigh IV art quality):

• spinning clock
• reflection shots
• background characters doing something significant
• Nagato's apartment + airplane
• cellphone calculator
• Koizumi's exaggerated hand gestures
• melancholic music in revelation scene, instead of the usual ominous BGM
• loop in a loop
• playground scene
• and of course, Koizumi in a speedo

You have a point... I should probably watch that one again.

[kenshin-dono]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

And that is why we told you not to watch Endless Eight.

Sighs is damn good, and the four remaining S1 episodes, if you haven't already watched them, are probably the best of the original season.

ya.. i know. like i said im sick so had nothing better to do i figured what the hell.. figured i better put it in bold letters to anyone else thinking about it to seriously skip them. My taste for the show has totally died now. I havent watched sigh or the rest of s1 or anything. I just stoped because i was so discusted with it. I know i should finish it but i really have zero desire to do it.

I have onechabara bikini samurai squad here from netflix. im going to watch that and get started on clanned i think.. maybe i'll feel like picking this up again soon, i generally dont like to leave stuff unfinished but right now i dont even wanna touch it

SERIOUSLY to anyone guessing about view order, just SKIP endless eight.

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Why...oh why do I want to put an evil laugh here? I'm trying to decide if it should be one of the old classical evil villian type laughs (the start slow and low and built up to loud and insane), or stick to the more modern Beatrice type (just go for loud and crazy from the start).

Now imagine...instead of going through those eight episodes in a day, spending two months on it. Two months. While in just a few hours that ending might not seem worth it, but believe me, after two months, that ending was considered Epic. Over the top music, over the top hot blooded shouting over an mundane solution followed by a tsundere responce...after two months of being bored...it was perfect.

(Last episode of the current season airs later today, title is "Someday in the Rain")

i cant even imagine putting up with that for 2 months. Jeeze the crap you fans put up with lol

cant belive you guys remember the details in the different episodes they just completly blurred into one mash of utter crap to me. I think the cold made it like twice as bad

i do remember kyons hands on his butt rhough for some reason.. christ wtf does that say about me o_O The only other things i remember are feeling really bad for Nagato, i think shes my fave. and finding the various reaction kyon had to the other guy sugesting maybe he'll try telling haruhi he loved her were kinda interesting. They never showed his face but the bodylanguage and reaction indicated he certainly didn't like it heh