2007-01-10, 08:35 | Link #121 | |
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P elixir in RPG games, or having a healer to recharge mana or just simply resting. Kissing? I thought thats only done when two contract soceress and sorceror shows their lovers,engaged or something just like in demonbane? You mean any magic girl can recharge their mana by kissing any magic guy and its legitimate? I mean can a girl kiss a girl to recharge her mana or a man kiss a man? Thats like a mana charging kiss fiesta!!!! Everybody randomly kissing each other when they need mana!! First episode of Kyoshiro to towa no sora was predictable to me. KnM had good storyline, there wasnt much to explain about the characters background to me, when i saw the few last episodes, it explained everything to me, the first episode jumped into fights and flash of new characters jumped in right away, really great anime. Tsubasa really put a good fight with Chikane, it was a the first time ive seen two beautiful,extremely cool and strong characters of the opposite sex fought each other, that was nothing ive ever seen. The mech fighting scenes was brutal and most of the fights was bare handed which was really cool. All the orochi member came one by one and it was a good intro. The romance was deep and realistic and Chikane really went through a lot of pain watching Himeko and Oogami together. I hope something crazy jumps in Kyoshiro to towa no sora soon. I hope they dont drag it with the fairy tale romance and put up some lame pitiful mech fights with useless opponents just to please some audience. I hope someone comes in and start turning things upside down because the first episode is a drag. |
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2007-01-10, 11:57 | Link #122 | |
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also i dont think it works with any random person ~ it either has to be 1) a mage tat you had made a contract with or 2) both sides agree to share their mana ~
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2007-01-10, 15:04 | Link #125 |
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This thread is a strong proof of the fact that when we talk about an anime being "good" or "bad," we are usually talking about our personal preferences rather than any objective standard. (Not that philip72 claimed anything different.)
In any case, I find this extreme aversion to the character design quite excessive. I don't understand why Kyoushiro's stylishness is so repulsive. He seems like a strong character to me. Although, in the interest of full disclosure, I should say that I found the lead guy in KnM repulsive -- as I did that whole show. It had a meanness of spirit, for me, that this show hasn't yet given evidence of. warning: since a sub has already been out for over a day, I'm not going to use spoiler tags. Personally, I didn't find the plot strange at all. Or at least not strange for an anime. A world full of magic. A special girl who doesn't realize she is special. (The cat girl's "who are you" and Kyoushiro's finding some flash of a sign on Kuu's skin.) Elegant mecha in small doses. The kiss-recharge of magical power. Add the prince who comes to take you away, a shoujo meme. A mixture of genres, but so far more acceptable to me than KnM's mixture. Clearly, they're trying to capture both male and female audiences. If too many guys feel such revulsion toward Kyoushiro, I guess it's not going to work, though. Aside: I resist strongly any suggestion that shoujo romance is in any way inferior to other genres. In my opinion, it is generally superior. All genres run variations on standard plots. Shoujo romance, of all genres, may have the most emotional intensity and psychological depth. A show like Bokura ga Ita is psychologically far more complex, realistic and intense than any number of shounen adventure/romance stories, at least for me. Of course, the fact that a subtle, shoujo-ish show like Asatte no Houkou was from a seinen magazine shows the shifting nature of these classifications.
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2007-01-10, 16:18 | Link #127 | ||
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philip72, some of your pictures didn't show up but I see what you're getting at. I think that bishies for the most part aren't really the problem it's just some drawings make them overtly androgynous. While some characters in KyoSora aren't Jun Watarase trap level, they are a little too feminine looking then most bishies. Though do you have a problem with Kyoshiro..? I'd imagine most people wouldn't have much of a problem with bishounen characters as they're somewhat common in anime/manga. ultimate (delicious) trap Jun Quote:
Personally I had a hard time accepting the coupling even knowing the premise since either the sempai-kouhai pairing which I haven't seen done well or that in KnM there was a lack of affection/romantic build up. It felt as though Himeko went lesbian the last minute but it wasn't too convincing, although if anything she is bi. Again I agree that the emotional/relationships are often better in shoujo stories (by definition almost), I've found some seinen stories that are quite good (Kashimashi). From my recollection the one major thing I liked about shounen romances (or maybe i'm confusing these with seinen) is that they seem to make progress faster at the cost of drama which sometimes shoujo stories just love to drag out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinen The list is somewhat shocking as I didn't know where some of the animes i've seen didn't fit into either shounen/shoujo. |
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2007-01-10, 18:42 | Link #129 | |
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You're right about shounen/shoujo romances in general, I think. But Suzuka, for example, is pretty slow-developing, too. I'm following the manga and the (sometimes enjoyable) frustration continues. Thanks for the link to the Wikipedia info about seinen. Very interesting. I hadn't realized how many shows I like were originally seinen manga.
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2007-01-11, 02:14 | Link #130 |
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It's quite hilarious how love and romance is used and exergerated over and over again.
The animation is tip top, but youtube don't really offer quality till the better version is completed for me. I'll continue to follow it, of course ^_^.
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2007-01-11, 10:04 | Link #131 | |
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Rin did it because she had a crush on Saber all along. If Setsuna did it with Kyoshiro, that means what? Setsuna is like Kyoshiros sex secretery! and Kuu is his genuine lover? You got to be kidding. Souma Oogami is ok, but atleast he went for one girl and thats enough, what bothers me is that Oogami voice is too irritating, he screams like a fool, i agree he is kind of selfish and oblivious to whats going on . And theres no one that can beat him up than his brother, but thats good, atleast theres a balance. Kyoshiro however is a piece of two timing idiot. He needs balance otherwise its going out of control. KnM is a good anime, i have no yuri or yaoi prejudice. Kyoshiro to towa is just too fantasy fairy tale romance, i want genuine romance like Full metal panic! and KnM. |
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2007-01-11, 18:39 | Link #133 |
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I have always thought that any attractive looking male are by definition bishies or bishounen. Though this is only in my personal experience, but every girl I know of defines say, the Gundam Wing heroes as bishies, and unless my eyes are really bad they are far from feminine looking. Maybe the true textbook definition of bishies are men who have very feminine characteristics, but where I come from it is understood that bishies refer to (or is slang for) any handsome, attractive teenage boy.
Still, I find it quite amusing that Koizumi has been used as an example of an attractive male character without much or any female characteristics, because well, he's gay. LOL XD Not that I'm saying that regular looking men can't be gay. On the contrary, I have met a fair bit of them over my lifetime. As for ambiguizing the look of a lot of the main characters, I don't really mind it so much. I've been accustomed to it since its more commonplace now (Final Fantasy comes to mind); as long they're hetero, it's just fine and dandy with me. And back on topic, I'm impressed by the first eps, particularly because of the well animated fight scenes. Not as much as I was with eps 1 of KnM (mainly because KnM's OP and ED ROCKED while here it was a meh), but hopefully my view of the series don't go downward as it did with KnM. That said, I think I'm going to watch this show for just enjoyment rather than expecting a good plot or whatnot, since to me every anime's plot right now seems like crud compared to the double whammy of Kanon/Code Geass.
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Good point on Suzuka. After watching the anime, I had very little interest in the manga; if the anime pacing is any indication no thanks. Rant: Issues I have with Suzuka; named after the female lead wherein she pretty much only has one potential pairing, said lead is way too emo/melodramatic, and the male lead is often portrayed as having 'no balls' and little to no interested in anyone besides the female lead. For a shounen romance.. trying to do shoujo I find the series confused; track and field theme but not a sports anime (no technical analysis I guess), it takes itself pretty seriously as a drama without comedy to break up the monotany (or is poor at it) or even ecchi themes which are often prevalent in shounen series. Basically I don't like any of the characters either. So you can see my problems with Suzuka, why may I ask are you still following it? I have a friend who's into it (he loves Suzuka type characters / pitiful girls) and keeps hyping it to me and I have no urge whatsoever. I mean i do like Miki and Honoka but they're forced into supporting roles anyways. |
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2007-01-12, 00:18 | Link #136 | |
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I think I can say there is a bit of technical analysis in the track, but they do seem to veer off it when you want more. And there is more ecchi in the manga than in the anime, of course. But both the anime and the manga seem pretty clumsy compared to shoujo treatments of similar things. However, that clumsiness has its own appeal. And anyway, I like emo. If everyone was sensible and under control, the story would be boring, imo.
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2007-01-12, 09:53 | Link #137 |
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Thats manga style. In order to draw handsome looking men, they need to be more beautiful and have more manlier physique or depends. Take an example Yoshida from Peace Maker Kurogane. Ichigo from Bleach is starting to look like it and Byakuya is another piece of example.
Ichigo's father or Kyoraku handsome? Most harem animes have a nerdy plain looking main male character like Kyon or Chobbits. I cant say AIR is a harem anime, Kunisaki Yukito died in the end and theres no love scene between him and Kamio Misuzu or any ecchi scenes. Overall it has fantastic story, i love AIR. |
2007-01-12, 14:14 | Link #138 |
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Dude, though it may be a crime not everyone's seen AIR. You should spoiler that (that is, the parts after what I quoted.)
EDIT: And to stay on topic myself, I've not seen KnM and so far I'm not sure what to make of KTS.... Looks like it could be fun at least. And I also liked hearing the internal monologue of Kuu, the episode would have been much less without it. |
2007-01-12, 15:08 | Link #139 |
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episode 2
The first thing to get clear here is that Yahagi Sayuri (Kuu) is now a voice goddess. She may be only 20 and have been working for less than a year and a half, but just listen to the full, liquid voice and the subtle color and shading in her delivery. You may not like this kind of drippy style, and that's fine. But I like it, and I haven't heard a version better. There were moments when I thought she was starting to become same -- and then she changed gears. Do I hear the odd hint of Tamura Yukari there? Sayuri-chan is working with Yukarin in Otogijushi Akazukin, and I think may be learning some of her style. Just sugoi. As for episode 2 itself, I wouldn't have expected this, but it's looking good to me. The story is intriguing. The music is just excellent. I personally love the character design. The fanservice -- sight, sound, and implication, hetero, yuri, and bro-con -- works wonderfully. And the voice acting is generally excellent. Konishi Katsuyuki (Kyoushiro) played Kenta opposite Sayuri-chan in Karen, and I think the slight deadness in his voice works great here. Matsuoka Yuki as Setsuna is appropriately otherworldly. And Kawasumi Ayako plays Kaon.
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