2011-10-17, 03:39 | Link #861 |
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Agreed.
I don't hate Tohma and he's not a BAD character per se. But he isn't also a good one either, i find him pretty bland in comparission with all that's happening arround him, so far he feels more like a designated hero than a true main character. Still, he have some goot traits in his favour and maybe he will start to shine more now that he can fight by himself. Still he isn't lacking of some Mary Su-ish traits like being atached with almost all the the old cast without very much explanation or background and the fact that Word of God declared him as the most powerful member of the cast right off the bat which kills a bit of the drama in regards of his battles.
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2011-10-17, 03:56 | Link #862 |
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I also neutral about Tohma. He himself was in between love and hate. He favored because the story of his past, but hated because they have story breaker power. If the author does not reveal the secret behind the abilities they have, go ahead. Guaranteed, going to protests by the fans.
Speaking of Chew Toy, who's the others will become another Chew Toy by us, aside from Tohma?
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2011-10-17, 09:52 | Link #863 | |
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In terms of what I prefer, I also prefer Vivid to Force. Not that I hate Force or anything but right now Vivid just seems more fun and enjoyable than Force. Somehow Force to me is missing the fun factor but I still read it because it's still interesting I think. "Thoma's supposed blandness breeds apathy, not agressive hate." Yep exactly.
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Sorry that I didn't make my own first sentence sound enough like a joke. I feel emoticons are silly, dislike excessive purpose-prose, and sometimes forget to add descriptive bits of narration to show I'm being silly. But I wanted to take the opportunity to expand on my thoughts. Especially because I did want to make clear which of those "reasons" were somewhat close to my own and which weren't. Quote:
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2011-10-17, 10:28 | Link #865 | |
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2011-10-17, 15:20 | Link #868 |
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It's very close to be the same thing as he alone pwned pretty much anybody in a single shot and also trashed Nanoha AFTER receiving not one but TWO upgrades, and took the combined efforts of FOUR main characters to merely knock him out. The closes record belongs to Curren and no one else.
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2011-10-17, 19:26 | Link #869 |
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Oh, traditional Aki wordplay, I see.
Having a badass, unique weapon doesn't mean you are a badass yourself, guy. You really think Tsuzuki would say 'yes, this new person could beat up every single one of your favorite characters, easily', when he's already the subject of some dislike? |
2011-10-17, 19:53 | Link #873 |
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Easily beat nobody, the Dividers might be strong against Devices, that doesn't take away the Aces/Strikers ability.
But I will agree that the balance between equipment and individual skill could use quite a bit of work, see Black Cat for example of more nuanced approach. As far as Touma goes, he's a rookie. I wouldn't call him as bad off as Hayate was, but he's definitely not up to the Forwards in the beginning of StrikerS. He's got the reflexes, but not the conditioning or the training. Character wise, he's basically Raiden at the beginning of Metal Gear Solid 2. Which, okay, is alright as a starting point, but definitely not for an advancing storyline. We're in the middle of a breather for SS6, it is time now to get developing with what's in the skull, and where Touma is actually going. Having said all that, I seriously hope I didn't jinx Tsuzuki into writting "why hello there young people, now you will **** BRIX OMFG DID YOU SEE THAT EVERYONES TRIPPIN' BALLS" plot |
2011-10-17, 20:06 | Link #874 |
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So far Tohma is like an unskilled Juggernaut, strong enough to trash any foe and resilent enough to withstand the attacks of the third most powerfull character at the moment, yet untrained in the proper means of combat.
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2011-10-17, 21:09 | Link #876 |
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@ Sunder the Gold
Oh so you were being silly? Hehe guess I'm the one who did not notice anything. Hmm... I would say that it is something particular to ViVid. Personally I actually enjoyed StrikerS a lot and I know there's a lot of mixed feelings about it so it's nothing something I would normally say too much to other people. If each series were separated, all three to me would still be in my top 10 favorite. That gives you an idea of how much I enjoyed the anime. Vivid and Force on the other hand is a bit different to me but what Vivid does give me is the slice-of-life feeling that I wanted more from the anime. Force however is... I don't really know how I feel about it yet but I will continue to read it since it is still cannon and I don't hate it either. Touma right now is unpolished ore (hehe from Nanoha) and needs to be polished. He have the potential but he can't use it yet. That's why he's Nanoha's new fresh meat haha.
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2011-10-18, 00:04 | Link #877 | |
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Trained Tohma will be broken as hell xD!
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2011-10-18, 00:48 | Link #879 | |
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Then again, probably this also follow my theory that the main cast was at their prime during A's and started to go downhill from there.
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2011-10-18, 01:07 | Link #880 |
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Nanoha's effect is much better:
砲撃魔導師 なのは 【Continuous】The character opposite this card gains Soul -1. (lesser damage) 【Automatic】[(3)] When this card is put from Hand to the Stage, you may pay the cost. If you do so, choose 1 of your opponent's Level 1 or below characters and put it to the Waiting Room. (fulfills her role as a bombardment mage) Thoma: vanilla Yeah (I think your theory is true): Vita 紅の鉄騎 ヴィータ: Red level 1/cost 0 power 4500 (Ref: Nanoha A's booster) 【Automatic】 When the card「Heaven's Roar Smash」is in the Climax area, this card gains the following ability.『【Automatic】 When this card is put into【Knockout】state, and the Battle opponent should be the same level or below, put that card into【Knockout】State.』 【Automatic】[(1)] When this card attacks, you may pay the cost to activate the ability. Should you do so, choose one of your Opponent's card, for that turn, that card gains Level -1. Vita 鉄槌の騎士ヴィータ: Red level 2/cost 1 power 5000 Source: Nanoha StrikerS booster 【Automatic】[(1)] When this card attacks, and the Climax card 「Piercing!」is in the Climax Area, you may pay the cost to deal 1 damage to your opponent. (Damage cancellation applies) 【Automatic】When this card turn to 【Reverse】 state, and the card that battled with this Character is Level 2 or below, you may put that card into 【Reverse】 state.
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